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2008 QB Battle

Between Howland and Hubel in my opinion. Would like to see Mouse redshirt Hubel, since we had to use him as a true freshman out of need. Let the best man win the job though.
 
forestgreen said:
Between Howland and Hubel in my opinion. Would like to see Mouse redshirt Hubel, since we had to use him as a true freshman out of need. Let the best man win the job though.
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I agree, I think Howland will return as the starter, hopefully this time he can stay healthy.
 
I have not been impressed by Howland at all in the past few years. I think Hubel is the future of the Viks, and I'd like to see him get the experience now. In the Walsh years, QBs only played as Juniors and Seniors, and the Junior year was always a bust, as they needed the starting and playing experience

Getting Hubel the experience now will benefit him and the team when he is a Junior and Senior.
 
DJViking said:
I have not been impressed by Howland at all in the past few years. I think Hubel is the future of the Viks, and I'd like to see him get the experience now. In the Walsh years, QBs only played as Juniors and Seniors, and the Junior year was always a bust, as they needed the starting and playing experience

Getting Hubel the experience now will benefit him and the team when he is a Junior and Senior.
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Good point.
 
I went to alot of the games last year and was on buisness in Denver so drove to the Northern Colorado game. After watching that game and the Montana State game do not be surprised to see Collins as the starter. He was significantly better in both games than Hubel. He throws more accuratley does not make bad decisions and can run. I was impressed last year in a sven on seven but he had a bad Spring game. Heard someone in Coloreado say he was Soph. and the roster was wrong. It should be a good competition in spring.
 
Sorry folks, but if Mouse believed in Hubel he would not have recruited and burned up a scholarship on Hagan. Hagan is lot like the Nichols kid from eastern Washington. I saw him play in the Holdiay Classic all star game in december in sacramento and he is just very accurate and very polished in his drops and throwing motion, he hit on several big third and plus 10 yards throws for first downs. He was playing agasint kids like linebacker Dewitt Stuckey who signed at Oregon.

His arm probally isn't as strong as Howland and Hubels that is why he needs to redshirt, lift and natually grow stronger. I don't see Hagan showing up in august and blowing people away the first day of practice with his arm, but Mouse hates interceptions and will take accuracy and right reads over a huge arm anyday. Don't get me worng, his arm is more than adequate and certainly D-1, Mouse saw something in this guy on film that he thinks is the real deal. Rivals named Hagan first team all state at QB, only three guys out of 1400 high schools get that recognition. That must say something about what Mouse saw last summer before the kids senior year. But I totally agree that Hagan needs to redshirt, develop more arm strength to go with his natural acuarcy and let Howland, Colllings and Hubel battle it out in 09.
 
Did you see him a lot in high school? Viks have a problem if no clear guy rises up because everyone will be screaming for their guy to get on the field then when that guy screws up once the next scream will go up for change. Mouse knows what he is doing though. Interesting though that I heard the QB and a few widouts are enrolling in summer school so they can begin practice in June not August like the rest of the freshman.
 
The early entry is common, especially at big time programs. The JC guys start early too. The question is how many of these guys stay with the team or switch positions. There is no way that more than 4 see the field. With Hagan a likely redshirt, it's likely up to the guys who have already seen time, but Kavanaugh may be the wild card.
 
I'm hoping for Hubel cause I want to build of him, but I'd be happy with Howland to......what is he now? Junior? How many medical red shirts can you have?
 
Went to all but the first game last year - while Collins did not provide the wow factor of the other strong arm QB's I thought he ran the most controlled/poised offense of the group with very positive results - he may not be the quarterback for the coach Davis style but from a layman's prospective he was very impressive - seemed to have the best head on his shoulders when the pressure was on.
 
My money is on Howland to hold off the others in the preseason. He seems to be a very solid non-contact quarterback. The question is if he can transform from a glass man to something solid in real games.
 
My take is that Howland will start in the spring game and in the fall, but I don't see him making it through the entire season. He's good, but two years in a row he's gone down for the season.
 
I wouldn't redshirt Hubel because Howland is too fragile. It stinks that Hubel's freshman year was used, but by redshirting Hagen we can still get the QBs lined up for the future where the obvious successor is ready to step in as a junior.
 
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