2012 schedule Who do you want to play?

[WILDCAT]

Not really set in stone, but what we have so far.

Sept 1 - @ Fresno St
Sept 8 - @ Brigham Young
Sept 15 -
Sept 22 - Eastern Washington*
Sept 29 - @ UC Davis*
Oct 6 - Cal Poly*
Oct 13 - @ Sacramento St*
Oct 20 - @ Southern Utah*
Oct 27 -
Nov 3 - Montana*
Nov 10 - Northern Colorado*
Nov 17 - @ Idaho St*


We have open dates on sept 15th and Oct 27th. Who would you like to see Weber schedule a game with on one of those dates.

I would like to see Montana State on the Schedule, because I believe the Charter members should continue playing, but I dont see MSU making 2 straight trips to Ogden (we need a 5th home game, none of this 4 home games crap Eastern pulled).

I also wouldnt mind playing North Dakota for the first time. Which works out, since we dont play them as a conf game till 2014 and its at UND, so next year we play them as an OOC home game, in 2014 we play there.

If neither of those 2, than I would take any other FCS teams not in the Big SKy :nod:

 

[weberwildcat]

this schedule is

i hate to :dead: but...

2 fbs? still? when does this end?

1. get rid of the byu game
2. if we aren't playing the other 3 charter members every yr, then just downgrade us to the wac now.
3. other ooc game should be nau.
4. that still means no psu or und if we can add nau and msu


this is a realistic schedule assuming it works with msu/nau
12 games, 4 ooc - frez, byu, msu, nau - i still dont like seeing 5 games at home on a 12 game schedule but PLEASE NO non DIs
Sept 1 - @ Fresno St
Sept 8 - @ Brigham Young
Sept 15 - NAU
Sept 22 - Eastern Washington*
Sept 29 - @ UC Davis*
Oct 6 - Cal Poly*
Oct 13 - @ Sacramento St*
Oct 20 - @ Southern Utah*
Oct 27 - @ MSU
Nov 3 - Montana*
Nov 10 - Northern Colorado*
Nov 17 - @ Idaho St*


what i would like to see
12 games, 4 ooc - frez, nau, msu, und - only 1 fbs, 6 home games
Sept 1 - @ Fresno St
Sept 8 - NAU
Sept 15 - @ MSU
Sept 22 - Eastern Washington*
Sept 29 - @ UC Davis*
Oct 6 - Cal Poly*
Oct 13 - @ Sacramento St*
Oct 20 - @ Southern Utah*
Oct 27 - UND
Nov 3 - Montana*
Nov 10 - Northern Colorado*
Nov 17 - @ Idaho St*

 

[WILDCAT]

what i would like to see
12 games, 4 ooc - frez, nau, msu, und - only 1 fbs, 6 home games
Sept 1 - @ Fresno St
Sept 8 - NAU
Sept 15 - @ MSU
Sept 22 - Eastern Washington*
Sept 29 - @ UC Davis*
Oct 6 - Cal Poly*
Oct 13 - @ Sacramento St*
Oct 20 - @ Southern Utah*
Oct 27 - UND
Nov 3 - Montana*
Nov 10 - Northern Colorado*
Nov 17 - @ Idaho St*

If only....if only hno:

 

[weberwildcat]

2012 is also our last griz home game for about 4-5 yrs. is it better to play suu every yr and griz only sometimes?

2012: um
2013: @ um
2014: no um
2015: @ um
2016: uknown

 

[SWeberCat02]

this schedule is

i hate to :dead: but...

2 fbs? still? when does this end?

1. get rid of the byu game
2. if we aren't playing the other 3 charter members every yr, then just downgrade us to the wac now.
3. other ooc game should be nau.
4. that still means no psu or und if we can add nau and msu


this is a realistic schedule assuming it works with msu/nau
12 games, 4 ooc - frez, byu, msu, nau - i still dont like seeing 5 games at home on a 12 game schedule but PLEASE NO non DIs
Sept 1 - @ Fresno St
Sept 8 - @ Brigham Young
Sept 15 - NAU
Sept 22 - Eastern Washington*
Sept 29 - @ UC Davis*
Oct 6 - Cal Poly*
Oct 13 - @ Sacramento St*
Oct 20 - @ Southern Utah*
Oct 27 - @ MSU
Nov 3 - Montana*
Nov 10 - Northern Colorado*
Nov 17 - @ Idaho St*


what i would like to see
12 games, 4 ooc - frez, nau, msu, und - only 1 fbs, 6 home games
Sept 1 - @ Fresno St
Sept 8 - NAU
Sept 15 - @ MSU
Sept 22 - Eastern Washington*
Sept 29 - @ UC Davis*
Oct 6 - Cal Poly*
Oct 13 - @ Sacramento St*
Oct 20 - @ Southern Utah*
Oct 27 - UND
Nov 3 - Montana*
Nov 10 - Northern Colorado*
Nov 17 - @ Idaho St*

I don't know why you think 2012 is a 12 game season. Only 11 games can be scheduled in the 2012 season, but 12 can be scheduled during both the 2013 and 2014 seasons. It all depends on the number of weekends between Labor day weekend and the weekend before Thanksgiving. You can't play before the weekend of Labor day, and the playoffs start the weekend of Thanksgiving, and you have to have a bye week. The weekends shown on the future schedules thread are the only weekends that games can be played.

 

[WILDCAT]

2012 is also our last griz home game for about 4-5 yrs. is it better to play suu every yr and griz only sometimes?

2012: um
2013: @ um
2014: no um
2015: @ um
2016: uknown

Maybe we can schedule a home OOC game vs Montana in 2014

 

[SWeberCat02]

2012 is also our last griz home game for about 4-5 yrs. is it better to play suu every yr and griz only sometimes?

2012: um
2013: @ um
2014: no um
2015: @ um
2016: uknown

Maybe we can schedule a home OOC game vs Montana in 2014

No way is Montana coming to Weber for a OCC game. We couldn't pay them enough. They can make good money playing at home, even against lower division.

 

[WILDCAT]

2012 is also our last griz home game for about 4-5 yrs. is it better to play suu every yr and griz only sometimes?

2012: um
2013: @ um
2014: no um
2015: @ um
2016: uknown

Maybe we can schedule a home OOC game vs Montana in 2014

No way is Montana coming to Weber for a OCC game. We couldn't pay them enough. They can make good money playing at home, even against lower division.

Yeah I know, I was just getting hopefull that the Charter members wouldnt stop playing each other hno:

 

[weberwildcat]

ok. i thought 2012 was the 12 game season.

so let me start over:


this is a realistic schedule assuming it works with nau
11 games, 3 ooc - frez, byu, nau -
Sept 1 - @ Fresno St
Sept 8 - @ Brigham Young
Sept 15 - NAU
Sept 22 - Eastern Washington*
Sept 29 - @ UC Davis*
Oct 6 - Cal Poly*
Oct 13 - @ Sacramento St*
Oct 20 - @ Southern Utah*
Oct 27 - bye
Nov 3 - Montana*
Nov 10 - Northern Colorado*
Nov 17 - @ Idaho St*


what i would like to see
11 games, 3 ooc - frez, nau, und, - only 1 fbs, 6 home games and no non-DI's
Sept 1 - @ Fresno St
Sept 8 - NAU
Sept 15 - @ MSU
Sept 22 - Eastern Washington*
Sept 29 - @ UC Davis*
Oct 6 - Cal Poly*
Oct 13 - @ Sacramento St*
Oct 20 - @ Southern Utah*
Oct 27 - UND
Nov 3 - Montana*
Nov 10 - Northern Colorado*
Nov 17 - @ Idaho St*

 

[weberwildcat]

2012 is also our last griz home game for about 4-5 yrs. is it better to play suu every yr and griz only sometimes?

2012: um
2013: @ um
2014: no um
2015: @ um
2016: uknown

Maybe we can schedule a home OOC game vs Montana in 2014

No way is Montana coming to Weber for a OCC game. We couldn't pay them enough. They can make good money playing at home, even against lower division.

Yeah I know, I was just getting hopefull that the Charter members wouldnt stop playing each other hno:

if the charter members go out of their way to make sure htey always play each other it could happen. i would guess griz wont want to come to ogden next yr if they dont have a big yr this yr. because htey have lost the last 2 in ogden and could possibly even lose at home to us this yr.

 

[flylikeasparrow]

Catcat, quit being a wank, the fbs games are all about money, plus Bovee would like to have a Utah fbs team scheduled yearly. so if anything get rid of fresno.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Until Weber can consistently draw 15K+ to home games, while charging more, don't expect the current scheduling philosophy to change. The bottom line is, it's about the money. And Weber doesn't make much money, if any, with their home games. So it really comes back to the same thing that has always plagued WSU football, a general lack of fan support.

 

[SWeberCat02]

2012 is also our last griz home game for about 4-5 yrs. is it better to play suu every yr and griz only sometimes?

2012: um
2013: @ um
2014: no um
2015: @ um
2016: uknown

Maybe we can schedule a home OOC game vs Montana in 2014

No way is Montana coming to Weber for a OCC game. We couldn't pay them enough. They can make good money playing at home, even against lower division.

Yeah I know, I was just getting hopefull that the Charter members wouldnt stop playing each other hno:

if the charter members go out of their way to make sure htey always play each other it could happen. i would guess griz wont want to come to ogden next yr if they dont have a big yr this yr. because htey have lost the last 2 in ogden and could possibly even lose at home to us this yr.

I think the charter member thing means very little to the Montana schools.

 

[WILDCAT]

2012 is also our last griz home game for about 4-5 yrs. is it better to play suu every yr and griz only sometimes?

2012: um
2013: @ um
2014: no um
2015: @ um
2016: uknown

Maybe we can schedule a home OOC game vs Montana in 2014

No way is Montana coming to Weber for a OCC game. We couldn't pay them enough. They can make good money playing at home, even against lower division.

Yeah I know, I was just getting hopefull that the Charter members wouldnt stop playing each other hno:

if the charter members go out of their way to make sure htey always play each other it could happen. i would guess griz wont want to come to ogden next yr if they dont have a big yr this yr. because htey have lost the last 2 in ogden and could possibly even lose at home to us this yr.

I think the charter member thing means very little to the Montana schools.

Thier fans want them to continue, if thier universities dont that sucks

 

[weberwildcat]

it is a shame we dont have griz on the schedule in 2013. we have played them every yr since 1962, that is 50 yrs in a row.

 

[Skippy]

After next weekend, Idaho State will not host EITHER Montana school for three years. That will be a significant hit to attendance in Pocatello. But ISU has been scheduling two FBS games (much like Weber) in recent years because we need the money, and will likely continue to schedule one lower-division home game (because we need the win) every year. Don't see a lot of room for Montana or MSU games, except in those 12-game years. And as noted above, pretty sure neither Montana school will want to travel to Pocatello.

 

[WILDCAT]

After next weekend, Idaho State will not host EITHER Montana school for three years. That will be a significant hit to attendance in Pocatello. But ISU has been scheduling two FBS games (much like Weber) in recent years because we need the money, and will likely continue to schedule one lower-division home game (because we need the win) every year. Don't see a lot of room for Montana or MSU games, except in those 12-game years. And as noted above, pretty sure neither Montana school will want to travel to Pocatello.

At least the Weber State/Idaho State rivalry is safe :clap:

 

[wsucatfan]

Until Weber can consistently draw 15K+ to home games, while charging more, don't expect the current scheduling philosophy to change. The bottom line is, it's about the money. And Weber doesn't make much money, if any, with their home games. So it really comes back to the same thing that has always plagued WSU football, a general lack of fan support.

I don't see this happening unless we get better teams in to play against, or we constantly are a conference and national power (including winning some FBS scheduled games). It's the same problem the basketball team has.

 

[Wildcatpast]

Re: FBS games, I'll re-post from a few months ago, highlighting a few things no one seems to talk about:

My vote: play 2 games against the biggest baddest FBS teams we can get every season. Of course, the money is needed, but it is also great for recruiting, player development/experience and program recognition and pride. I guarantee that every player, although a bit nervous, wants to prove their mettle against the 'big boys' and relishes getting the chance to play in those big stadiums. And, if you win...or even come close...that's a great thing. Of course, the actual wins over top FBS programs are rare [e.g., James Madison beating VTech last year], but there are a whole bunch of 'near misses' that are almost as good [Cal Poly had Wisconsin dead to rights, but kicker missed 3 XPs; Northern Iowa had Iowa but had 2 short FGs blocked at end of game, etc.]. Heck, get rid of the bad turnovers and having to settle for 3 FGs in the redzone and last year's BC game could have been way different - how great would that have been. I don't think the statistics prove out that more players get hurt in the FBS games then in the FCS games. And, losing the two FBS games does not mean you won't make the playoffs - we lost both in '08 and '09 and made it. Also, substituting one or two FCS teams for FBS teams does not guarantee victories in those games [unless you play lousy teams, and who wants to do that] - and, it's probably true that losing one or two of those FCS 'replacement' games is far more damaging to a playoff invitation than losing two FBS games. Do think it makes a lot of sense to try to play west FBS teams, though - bring on Utah, BYU, Boise, UNLV, Washington, etc.!!!

And, now, I can add: Sac's win over Oreg State, and SUU's over UNLV. These were huge for those programs - and the BSC and FCS. We should've had the win at Wyoming and it's too bad that the 17-17 score at half time at Utah State was wiped out by the second half.

No way we should not be playing 2 FBS games a year.

 

[webercat]

If we schedule a lower division I'd rather us schedule Dixie State (Div II). In-state might would create at least a little more excitement among fans. As far as the FBS argument, I see the advantages and disadvantages. But if Weber has a goal of moving up to FBS then we may as well keep playing FBS.