This is getting old & redundant. I'm ready for Abegglan to come back, I don't care if he coaches practices in his underwear with a cane in one hand, and drooling all over the court :grizo1: The Flashcards don't work. The fact that Rahe mimics a coach who won 1 NCAA tourney game his entire career is beyond insanity.
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All those Flashcards & 8 Assists, Come on Stew 2
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SWWeatherCat
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:lol: :facepalm: :crybaby:
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SWWeatherCat said::lol: :facepalm: :crybaby:
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Weberski is right.10 years is too long for a program that's had nothing to brag about
. The coach has had more lives than a cat. Coach Abegglin was years ahead of his time.He really knew what it took to win, and he didn't mess around. The current program is going down faster than the Titanic.
. The coach has had more lives than a cat. Coach Abegglin was years ahead of his time.He really knew what it took to win, and he didn't mess around. The current program is going down faster than the Titanic.
WeberSki said:
:rofl: Biggest issues with Coach Rahe:
1. Flashcards.
2. No bigs coach.
3. Can't beat a zone.
4. Turnover (this is a recurring issue every season. How many games have been lost due to turnovers?).
I'm going to say it. I think Rahe is a good coach. Great? No... Good, yeah; sure. I think the biggest issue right now is that he isn't getting anything from his assistants. You are only as good as your assistant, much like Athletics is only as good as it leadership. Beckner was his best assistant. Look where he is at and how the team has played since he has been gone? Bernard only lasted a season, but during that season, the Cats were the best defensive team in the Sky and the top team in the country at defending the 3. Heavens, since McCoy left, you can tell that we aren't as tough and our rebounding intensity has definitely decreased. Weber was the taller team and allowed 12 offensive boards last night. We had 7. Our bigs are soft, aren't good defenders, and keep finding themselves out of position. WTF!! I love that Bolomboy can hit 3's, but he is the only guy who can get an offensive rebound. We need him in position to fight for boards, not cruising the perimeter. At the end of last season, Randy spoke about how the team was going to undergo some changes that a new assistant was going to be brought in. Well, TD got the job at USU and so the new assistant never occurred and we are stuck with the same guys. Nothing seems to have changed much from last season to this season. Getting rid of players isn't the answer. If the system isn't working. It isn't always the players. There is a great chance it is a coach or coaches.
Webergrad02
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talhadfoursteals said:
There is no question that the team has suffered since Beckner departed us. I really hoped that coach would shake up the assistants but it didn't happen. My biggest problem right now is that we are paying almost 3 times the average Big Sky head coaching salary to have a soft, undisciplined team that has no chemistry. I hope the changes we were going to under go weren't to be softer and have even less chemistry. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the "privately sourced" money that helps pay for coaches salary goes away. We are getting out coached, played and hustled by less athletic teams.
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I haven't posted in a long while but have been reading the Rahe angst. I guess I'm about to fan the flames as one thing that no one has mentioned is Rahe's insistence on playing man-to-man defense at all times.
I don't think that team's have much difficulty preparing for what we will do on defense against them. It's always the same. Oh, we might slip into a zone for a minute or two, but never long enough to throw a team off. Nor do I think we spend much time really learning how to play a zone defense well. So every team can prepare for the same thing — year after year. There's no guesswork. Just think how easy that is for opposing coaches to automatically know what defense they'll see as they get their teams ready. Compare that to the Cats, who saw two defenses against them at various times and had to prepare for both prior to the game. Why always man-to-man?
On Friday night it seemed USU was the perfect team to zone. Without Collette their ability to score inside was questionable. Rector is an over-dribble PG whose assists came from last second double-teams and kicking the ball to the corners where we had no one to cover Smith. He never showed me the ability to get the ball inside, except on dribble penetration. Cannon's speed has yet to recover from his mish (I think he'll have more speed in the future, mission legs is a common malady for RMs). And goodness, do we really want Bolomboy chasing their 4's out to the 3-point line instead of staying as a shot blocking threat in the paint?
I think a zone would have been highly effective against the Aggies. We could have pinched Rector with more natural zone trap double-teams. Cannon wouldn't have been consistently been beat on Rector's cross-over and his lack of speed wouldn't have been as noticeable -- and Rector's dribble penetration would have been neutralized. We could have covered the corners easier where Smith totally went off on us. Finally, we could have kept Bolomboy closer to the basket at all times and perhaps negated their ability to get offensive boards and 13 more shots than we took. Which was the difference in the game.
I think you build defenses around your personnel. I think you surprise teams with defenses that stifle their strengths. I think you make opposing coaches guess at what you might do from week to week so preparing to face us becomes more difficult. I have a really hard time with Rahe's man-to-man madness... and I have for a long time.
I don't think that team's have much difficulty preparing for what we will do on defense against them. It's always the same. Oh, we might slip into a zone for a minute or two, but never long enough to throw a team off. Nor do I think we spend much time really learning how to play a zone defense well. So every team can prepare for the same thing — year after year. There's no guesswork. Just think how easy that is for opposing coaches to automatically know what defense they'll see as they get their teams ready. Compare that to the Cats, who saw two defenses against them at various times and had to prepare for both prior to the game. Why always man-to-man?
On Friday night it seemed USU was the perfect team to zone. Without Collette their ability to score inside was questionable. Rector is an over-dribble PG whose assists came from last second double-teams and kicking the ball to the corners where we had no one to cover Smith. He never showed me the ability to get the ball inside, except on dribble penetration. Cannon's speed has yet to recover from his mish (I think he'll have more speed in the future, mission legs is a common malady for RMs). And goodness, do we really want Bolomboy chasing their 4's out to the 3-point line instead of staying as a shot blocking threat in the paint?
I think a zone would have been highly effective against the Aggies. We could have pinched Rector with more natural zone trap double-teams. Cannon wouldn't have been consistently been beat on Rector's cross-over and his lack of speed wouldn't have been as noticeable -- and Rector's dribble penetration would have been neutralized. We could have covered the corners easier where Smith totally went off on us. Finally, we could have kept Bolomboy closer to the basket at all times and perhaps negated their ability to get offensive boards and 13 more shots than we took. Which was the difference in the game.
I think you build defenses around your personnel. I think you surprise teams with defenses that stifle their strengths. I think you make opposing coaches guess at what you might do from week to week so preparing to face us becomes more difficult. I have a really hard time with Rahe's man-to-man madness... and I have for a long time.
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UtahPirate said:
Why indeed?
I thought the same thing, not long after Weber had jumped to the early lead.
I couldn't agree much more with every part of your post, although, I'm not sure why I care enough to reply. Rahe has always done it the same way and there's no reason to believe he wont for another 10 years. As far as why he won't incorporate different defensive looks into his system, I don't have a clue, maybe his assistants don't know how to.
SWeberCat02
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Or maybe he (Rahe) doesn't know how to. Paul Grua mentioned on the broadcast the Stew Morril had been down to Weber helping them on zone defense. That suggests to me that Rahe, who has been coaching basketball for 30 years, has no idea how to coach a zone defense.SWWeatherCat said:
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SWeberCat02 said:
Right, I was trying insinuate that with the facetious assistant comment.
“We’re going to get better,” Rahe said. “We’re playing really good basketball teams, and now we’re finding out what we need to do to get better. We always start to play our best basketball in the middle of December. Our system is very complex, and we’ve got guys that aren’t totally comfortable yet.”
http://www.standard.net/Sports/2015...68-to-the-South-Dakota-State-Jackrabbits.html
So frustrating, every team in the nation starts the same time and there are what 6 of the 8 or so players that see game time that have been in the system for over a full year. Dumb the system down if your players can't figure it out.
http://www.standard.net/Sports/2015...68-to-the-South-Dakota-State-Jackrabbits.html
So frustrating, every team in the nation starts the same time and there are what 6 of the 8 or so players that see game time that have been in the system for over a full year. Dumb the system down if your players can't figure it out.
SWeberCat02
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:thumb: And that would help explain why his offenses always struggle against a zone defense.SWWeatherCat said:
hawkssb04
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It's funny you say that. I was eating at a joint across the street from the Dee just before our exhibition against Southern Virginia and Stew Morrill in there with his family (all of them wearing WSU gear). It was one of the most bizarre sights I ever saw. Then we saw him at the game a few rows down from us. I suppose I have an explanation, now.SWeberCat02 said:
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wsucatfan said:
The thing is that this isn't even close to the first time Rahe has made these or similar comments, he's been doing it for years. It's not only gotten old, it's becoming increasingly frustrating to the fans who are well aware that every team in the nation deals with growing pains of pre-season, new faces, "really good (opponents)", etc., ect. Hearing it on the radio the other night pushed me over the edge, I've had it with the attitude that nothing matters 'till conference and that they can't expect to know how to play the game at a competitive level until then. :x
UtahPirate said:
Missed your stuff Utah Pirate! Welcome back. :thumb:
