Big Sky Conference plays starts [EWU, thurs]

[heyoh22]

Games start today in the BSC.
Weber is off to EWU and PSU this week, good tests before the holiday break.
Thoughts?

 

[oldrunner]

On paper, Weber should win these games. However, you never know what you might get on the road in the BSC. Niether of these teams has many wins under their belts, but are capable of turning it around. The BSC is going to be quite interesting this year. :twocents:

 

[n.ogdencat]

On paper, Weber should win these games. However, you never know what you might get on the road in the BSC. Niether of these teams has many wins under their belts, but are capable of turning it around. The BSC is going to be quite interesting this year. :twocents:

Portland State is awful. The Vikings have been surviving, throughout the past years, on talent alone, but this year the cubbards are bare. It might be Geving's last year in the Sky. PSU would be smart to hire Hunsaker. Eastern, hmmmm, they have the talent, but the system isn't working. They try to win all of their games from the 3pt line. Halford needs to realize that his team is a DI team, not a DIII team. I think the Eagles will turn things around during conference play, that is why I'm so happy we get to play them early at their place. The Eagles need some confidence and playing the terrible teams in the Big Sky will help them get it.

YIKES!! The conference is terrible this year.

 

[weberwildcat]

Eags have been struggling but last yr's new comer of the year did not play the past three games. The Seattle and Idaho losses were very close.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Eags have been struggling but last yr's new comer of the year did not play the past three games. The Seattle and Idaho losses were very close.

Seattle and Idaho aren't BYU and Dayton. LOOOOOOOOL, but true. The Eagles do have the talent and coaching to turn things around.

 

[weberwildcat]

i was just thinking , had htey had chiv, and those games were so close, one in OT....maybe they might have won them and be 4-5 which is much better than 2-7.

 

[wazzuwildcat03]

We are finially into the conference part of the season. We start off at EWU on Thursday night. I predicted them to be a top half of the conference team, but man they have been bad this year so far. They lost by 22 to a crappy UC Davis team last night. I still believe they have talent and are capable of beating anyone in the conference on a given night, but so far I just have not seen it from the eagles. Their game is simple. Shoot a ton of 3 pointers and hope they go in. So far that has been Webers strenght on defense. We have done a great job on the perimiter. Im thinking we win this one going away. Play inside out on offense and pressure the perimiter on defense and this game is in the bag. Also I think the team will be pissed off from the BYU game and come out with a sense of urgency and bring the hammer. So my prediction is WSU 81 EWU 64 :rockon:

 

[ajwildcat]

I'm just going to call it like I see it here, a road loss to EITHER of these 2 teams this week would be totally embarrassing . I know conference play is a different animal, but the Big Sky SUCKS this year (only 2 teams with winning records currently). I think WSU will win both of these games on the road and enjoy Christmas sitting at 2-0.
GO WILDCATS!!

 

[WILDCAT]

Weber makes thier freethrows they might just come home with 2 wins

 

[n.ogdencat]

Biggest factor...how good are the teams oppossing bigs? I'm pretty sure Tres is the best Center in the conference and that Weber is the deepest team. Neither Eastern or Portland will be able to challenge our inside game. They might, especially Eastern, have decent guards, but Weber's are better. I just don't see how Weber could lose either game. Of course playing on the road is tough, but neither Eastern or Portland State have shown much life this year. Heavens, has the conference shown any life other than Weber and possibly Sac and Montana? I really thought that Eastern would be far better, but hmmm...nothing. Maybe once Chiverton is back the Eagles will start playing better, but so far...yikes. hno:


I'm going to go out on a limb here, the teams with the best chance of improving in the short term, over the next few seasons or sooner are NAU, ISU, and SAC. The rest of the conference is piss poor. UNCO has talent, but BJ is starting to prove that he isn't Boyle, even though I keep hoping for another team in the conference to get better. Huse will be gone after this season, same with Geving, and UND/SUU will wallow. The only hope for the Sky, in 2013 are Weber, Montana, and SAC...with an outside chance of NAU. NAU gets some bigs and they will be very dangerous. They already have some guys who can replace Rogers and Salvidar when they both leave.

 

[LarrytheFarmer]

Biggest factor...how good are the teams oppossing bigs? I'm pretty sure Tres is the best Center in the conference and that Weber is the deepest team. Neither Eastern or Portland will be able to challenge our inside game. They might, especially Eastern, have decent guards, but Weber's are better. I just don't see how Weber could lose either game. Of course playing on the road is tough, but neither Eastern or Portland State have shown much life this year. Heavens, has the conference shown any life other than Weber and possibly Sac and Montana? I really thought that Eastern would be far better, but hmmm...nothing. Maybe once Chiverton is back the Eagles will start playing better, but so far...yikes. hno:


I'm going to go out on a limb here, the teams with the best chance of improving in the short term, over the next few seasons or sooner are NAU, ISU, and SAC. The rest of the conference is piss poor. UNCO has talent, but BJ is starting to prove that he isn't Boyle, even though I keep hoping for another team in the conference to get better. Huse will be gone after this season, same with Geving, and UND/SUU will wallow. The only hope for the Sky, in 2013 are Weber, Montana, and SAC...with an outside chance of NAU. NAU gets some bigs and they will be very dangerous. They already have some guys who can replace Rogers and Salvidar when they both leave.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Why must you ALWAYS include SAC in your up and coming lists? Won't ever happen!

 

[Skippy]

Biggest factor...how good are the teams oppossing bigs? I'm pretty sure Tres is the best Center in the conference and that Weber is the deepest team. Neither Eastern or Portland will be able to challenge our inside game. They might, especially Eastern, have decent guards, but Weber's are better. I just don't see how Weber could lose either game. Of course playing on the road is tough, but neither Eastern or Portland State have shown much life this year. Heavens, has the conference shown any life other than Weber and possibly Sac and Montana? I really thought that Eastern would be far better, but hmmm...nothing. Maybe once Chiverton is back the Eagles will start playing better, but so far...yikes. hno:


I'm going to go out on a limb here, the teams with the best chance of improving in the short term, over the next few seasons or sooner are NAU, ISU, and SAC. The rest of the conference is piss poor. UNCO has talent, but BJ is starting to prove that he isn't Boyle, even though I keep hoping for another team in the conference to get better. Huse will be gone after this season, same with Geving, and UND/SUU will wallow. The only hope for the Sky, in 2013 are Weber, Montana, and SAC...with an outside chance of NAU. NAU gets some bigs and they will be very dangerous. They already have some guys who can replace Rogers and Salvidar when they both leave.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Why must you ALWAYS include SAC in your up and coming lists? Won't ever happen!

Well in the grand world of Big Sky basketball, Sac's already there -- they actually have a winning record and a decent D-1 road win (Utah). Compared to everybody else in the league, that's practically top 20 material.

 

[weberwildcat]

talhad,

u limb u out on bout to bust again, son. best pull you rip cord quick, nah mean?

 

[wazzuwildcat03]

I can see NAU getting much better and contending in a couple years. ISU I think will improve some, because they cant get any worse. I watched them at Oregon. WOW!!!! It was painful to watch. ISU will always be in the bottom half of the conference. I can see EWU and PSU maybe getting a little better, but based on what I have seen this year its going to be a while before they contend. I believe this is Sac States year to be in the top 4. After this year they will be Suck State again. lol. Im really surprised UNC is so bad this year. I picked them 3rd, but they have been bad. I think they could be good, but they are a surprise to me. MSU always has some good players, but they suck. A new coach might be in the cards for them. SUU might surprise in a few years, but I doubt it. North Dakota is aweful this year, so who knows with them. Its pretty much Montana and Weber State. I see both teams being solid over the long haul. I really think Weber State could dominte the Big Sky like Gonzaga has in the WCC. Not because I am a fan, but because Weber State has the best coach in the conference, best venue, biggest fan base in the conference, best tradition, overall deepest team, really solid recruiting classes coming in, etc. Its exciting times. :rockon:

 

[AlumniWSU]

Weber State has the best coach in the conference...

Good Coach no doubt, but me & a few friends would ARGUE that Coach Rahe was outcoached by Montana's Coach Tinkle in the last 2 years of play at end of regular season & BSC tourney. Several friends have told me that one big flaw of Rahe is that he's too inflexible with O & D play calling + player lineup in games where things aren't going well. :twocents:

 

[oldrunner]

Eastern Washington took over 40 three point shots in a game recently. In that game they made only 3 two point shots all game long. They don't even try to go inside. They lead the nation in taking three point shots and we are near the top in defending the three point shot. Something will have to give in this game. We will pound it inside on these guys, much like YBU did to us. They may take 40 three point shots, but I don't think many of them will be uncontested. They will try to double our bigs and that may open the outside for our shooters. If they don't double our bigs, it could become a layup drill.

PSU is a completely different animal.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Eastern Washington took over 40 three point shots in a game recently. In that game they made only 3 two point shots all game long. They don't even try to go inside. They lead the nation in taking three point shots and we are near the top in defending the three point shot. Something will have to give in this game. We will pound it inside on these guys, much like YBU did to us. They may take 40 three point shots, but I don't think many of them will be uncontested. They will try to double our bigs and that may open the outside for our shooters. If they don't double our bigs, it could become a layup drill.

PSU is a completely different animal.

PSU is terrible.

 

[oldrunner]

If we get rolling with our inside game in either of these two games, we should win. Eastern is athletic and small. there are matchup problems for both teams, in that scenario. I don't see us losing this game, unless we really fall appart. PSU has some decent bigs and they have more experience than Eastern. PSU's problem is that they don't seem to defend well, inside or out. They have plenty of tallent and should be better than what they have showed thus far. Like NAU and a few other teams in the BSC, they have had a really hard schedule. I expect them to be excited to play us, and give us a good game. If we want to win this one, I think we will need to stomp them hard and not let them back up. :twocents:

 

[wazzuwildcat03]

I have not thought about the PSU game yet because we have EWU tonight. Unless we really come out flat and not prepared I think we roll tonight. Anyone can win anytime, but I don't see us playing bad tonight. We will be ready. EWU loves the 3 point shot and we are very good at defending it. They play little to no defense. I can see Otis, Tres, Bolomboy and Hayek all having good games tonight. I think coach Rahe has a game plan of ramming it down their throat. That is what I would do. On defense play straight up man to man on them and pressue pressure the perimiter. They don't even try to go inside. Im no coach, but thier strategy to shoot a ton of 3's is so dumb. Maybe its the players just not listening to the coach, but dang you can't win consistantly with just launching 3's. I see WSU winning 81 64 :-D

 

[MIGRAman]

Yaaa Buddy Time for conference play where the Ws and Ls really matter. Lets host the tourney this year!!!