the Rat
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The hits keep coming with this guy. I hereby christen him the new Ailene V(P)oisin, for all you die-hards.
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Bring Back Troy
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The hits keep coming with this guy. I hereby christen him the new Ailene V(P)oisin, for all you die-hards.
Kadeezy
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Everything I've ever seen from this guy is biased bullcrap.
My post wasn't necessarily aimed at you but the Joe D articles recycling the same local names over and over whenever a coaching position is open is tiresome. I get he is throwing softballs to his target audience but the Hornet athletics profile (for all sports) surpassed the hiring of head coaches from the JC ranks over a decade ago. It's sad that the local beat writer doesn't grasp this.So to be clear, I wasn’t suggesting they hire Osterhout…I was just pointing out that he would be a better choice than Richardson.
Taylor is still in firm pursuit of the job and he’s without question the most viable candidate. I’m just hoping Wood doesn’tit up.
For those of you on this site who think that you have some degree of influence now is the time to jump in and exercise it. I’m talking about doing it today.
And yes, anyone who wants to see Troy return should email the admin. Here is my email template from an earlier post:
Dr. Wood: [email protected]
Mark Orr: [email protected]
Dr. Wood and Mr. Orr,
Given the recently announced vacancy of the head coach position for Hornet football, I am writing to voice my support of Troy Taylor. Coach Taylor had an exemplary tenure while serving as the head football coach and I strongly encourage and support the hiring of Coach Taylor to serve in this role once again.
I will enthusiastically (select one) renew/purchase season tickets for me and my family upon the hiring of Coach Taylor.
Thank you,
(Your name here)
He lost me (besides his prior hit pieces) with this spewing about tradition and college football. He's clearly viewing college football through the pre-NIL/revenue sharing era lens and, unfortunately, tradition doesn't really matter for the decision makers. D1 athletics, specifically the major sports, are operating as professional minor league teams (minus the tampering rules) now. This idea of loyalty and tradition is over now that coaches and players can hop around on an annual basis. I don't necessarily agree with it but it is what it is.
HornetHope
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The interesting thing about the NIL and the coaching carousel that the article writer missed is that the new system in fact allows teams to scour the country for a coach that cal elevate a program in year one, see his example of Cignetti. I love tradition, but those days are now over and we will soon have our HC, for how long, does not matter what matters is the product on the field.
Yeah his examples disproved his narrative. Cignetti was poached from JMU along with the coaching staff and a lot of the players to Indiana via the transfer portal which resulted in immediate success. Dr. Wood tried something similar with Marion and it's spun as a bad thing.
Lea is a more organic story at Vandy but they've shoveled boat loads of money into the program/roster during his tenure. Dr. Wood increased football spending (at a much smaller scale) only to get hit pieces on how spending on athletics is a waste of money.
The writer of this hit piece is either not connected to the reality of D1 football and/or is just brazenly taking an unsupported potshot at Dr. Wood and his desire to elevate Hornet football.
SochorField
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Poor Angus McClure being dragged up every few years, whether he knows it or not. I'd bet he'd rather be left alone at this point. He seemed like a good candidate several times.
Super Hornet 2.0
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Yes, this is a serious post. I'm high on these people because I know them personally. However, I acknowledge that Taylor had great success here and is likely to do so again should the AD get him signed. That's why I said that he would be at the top of the list should he want to go "Back to the Future."
FootballAlum84
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The Troy Taylor comments were not at all the concern. I think everybody, myself included, on this board has shown their interest for him returning.
I think if Mr. Canales was someone to truly help move our program forward, he probably would not be an NAIA coordinator with his extensive career. I’m sure he’s a great guy.
As for Mr. Fassel, a 21 year NFL Special Teams Coordinator, doesn’t exactly scream someone that might be wanting to jump to an FCS school in complete limbo, nor scream experience in recruiting, transfer portal, NIL etc. I don’t think his one season at New Mexico Highlands in 2003 classifies as relevant unfortunately. Again, I’m sure he is a great guy though.
HornetHope
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The game is much different now with the Portal, NIL, coaching carousel, student athletes becoming “mercenary” players for a single year increasing the need for increased recruiting, I think we are really looking for an organizational CEO who has above average leadership skills in forming a staffing, recruiting coaches and players, high motivational skills. I think understanding the coaching tree that the coach is from matters. Candidly the most successful college coaching tree right now has been the Nick Saban. Those who came from his coaching tree have persisted in excelling SINCE the portal and NIL came on the scene. Maybe a pipe dream but looking for someone on Cignetti’s staff, Kiffins’s staff or Smarts’s staff would be awesome.
Super Hornet 2.0
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Thank you for the honest feedback without trashing me. This is the collegial discussion that this board has been known for over the years until one unnamed guy decided to attempt a coup. Since I was locked out, SD has done a masterful job moderating the board, and people like you make it a joy to come in here, even when we disagree.
Bodega Joe
Active member
I understand the value of due diligence but this is a no brainer.
Green Laser
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Last week Orr said they were doing a "Nationwide Search", Wood said they would have a coach by the end of this week. Cal Poly did a "Nationwide Search" and hired Tim Skipper four days later.
BuckeyeHornetFan
Active member
I think most here agree.
However, with the hiring of Brennan Marion, and the reported heavy interest in Michael Vick prior to that, Luke Wood has shown everyone where his mindset is.
And that's why I've previously stated that I'm not overly hopeful he'd seriously consider re-hiring Taylor despite his prior success with the program.
The only hope I do have is Mark Orr's relationship with Taylor, and the fact that time is of the essence.
Hopefully most of the influential alumni and donors out there are openly lobbying for a Taylor reunion.
HornetFootballFan
Active member
I understand many organizations HR require a public post and formal interview process to hiring,
Unless we had Nick Saban interviewing saying he wants to be a Hornet the rest would be a formality to me UNLESS.
If I felt Troy needed to express a strong desire to be our HC again and he wasn’t showing that same passion as before?
Unless we needed some competition to keep the HC salary reasonable within budget to prove to Troy that our contract offer is a very fair price.
T Taylor made a big time paycheck at Stanford. It’s hard to go backward unless you’ve acquired abundance and newly found boredom.
Hobby HC?
Just my possibilities. Only Pres Wood : M Orr know the internal discussions & candidate vibes.
However., one thing that I find odd. Is that this time I see OL going portal, when we separated from AT I thought our OL stayed pretty intact. It’s been very quiet thus far.
Hope they come to terms with Troy Taylor on a 5-7 yr contract. We need stability for a nice 3-5 yr stretch.
