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Cal Poly & UC Davis Join Big Sky

SWeberCat02

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It's official, Cal Poly and UC Davis are heading to the Sky for football only.

http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2010/9/7/FB_0907100731.aspx


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http://blogs.standard.net/2010/09/cal-poly-uc-davis-to-join-big-sky-in-football-more-expansion-possible/

big sky

http://bigskyconf.com/news/2010/9/7/FB_0907100731.aspx

big sky twitter

https://twitter.com/BigSkyConf
 
interesting to hear him say that they want the big sky to have 12 memmbers and that the big sky articles says this is the first part of expansion.


we can only assume suu is next. what other scenario? idaho? nah...
 
Don't count of SUU coming next. Fullerton and some of the Sky members don't seem sold on SUU. But if they expand to 12, which is what Fullerton wants, I don't know who else they would invite. The only other school I could see is Div II power Central Wash (the team that beat Idaho St last year).
 
The most interesting quote of the entire press release:

Fullerton (Big Sky Commissioner) said. “The landscape of college athletics has shifted even more this
summer, and with the great diversity of funding and budgets at the Football Bowl Subdivision level, the role of the FCS may became even greater in the coming years. The FCS could become the home for many institutions. We feel like the additions of UC Davis and Cal Poly puts us in front of that momentum.’’

In other words, Fullerton believes that many current BCS teams will find themselves "kicked out" of the big boys league and will end up in the FCS. I would guess possible teams include many WAC schools: Idaho, Utah State, New Mexico State, San Jose State, etc. Some MWC schools: Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado State, etc. Obviously, nobody knows which schools will have to drop a level, but my guess is that the current MWC and WAC will not remain stable. Boise or TCU may bolt for a bigger conference and thus a merger is imminent.
You may also see Montana try to move up to the BCS level - who knows?

I think the Big Sky is going to keep changing - it always has and still remains as one of the top 3 FCS conferences in the country.
 
SWeberCat02 said:
Don't count of SUU coming next. Fullerton and some of the Sky members don't seem sold on SUU. But if they expand to 12, which is what Fullerton wants, I don't know who else they would invite. The only other school I could see is Div II power Central Wash (the team that beat Idaho St last year).


CWU football stadium holds 4,000 capacity. dakotas r too far away.
 
catcat said:
SWeberCat02 said:
Don't count of SUU coming next. Fullerton and some of the Sky members don't seem sold on SUU. But if they expand to 12, which is what Fullerton wants, I don't know who else they would invite. The only other school I could see is Div II power Central Wash (the team that beat Idaho St last year).


CWU football stadium holds 4,000 capacity. dakotas r too far away.
I agree that SUU is the best fit, plus they could join for all sports and give the conference a balanced 10 teams, but Fullerton says that Cal Poly and UC Davis were the best FCS programs available out west. That's a clear shot at San Diego and SUU. To me, that says that he does not think SUU is at the level that the Big Sky wants.
 
SWeberCat02 said:
catcat said:
SWeberCat02 said:
Don't count of SUU coming next. Fullerton and some of the Sky members don't seem sold on SUU. But if they expand to 12, which is what Fullerton wants, I don't know who else they would invite. The only other school I could see is Div II power Central Wash (the team that beat Idaho St last year).


CWU football stadium holds 4,000 capacity. dakotas r too far away.
I agree that SUU is the best fit, plus they could join for all sports and give the conference a balanced 10 teams, but Fullerton says that Cal Poly and UC Davis were the best FCS programs available out west. That's a clear shot at San Diego and SUU. To me, that says that he does not think SUU is at the level that the Big Sky wants.

but we dont know for sure that he is against suu. there is probably already a team but they aren't going announced it yet or can't.
 
Fullerton's actual quote:

"The only two really strong FCS members sitting out here that didn't have a football home were Cal Poly and UC Davis"
 
SWeberCat02 said:
Fullerton's actual quote:

"The only two really strong FCS members sitting out here that didn't have a football home were Cal Poly and UC Davis"


you are right but the big sky has never been against taking crappy teams. i dont need to name any schools here. lol. location alone will get SUU in.
 
I heard rumors that the Big Sky has contacted SUU and asked if they were interested in joining if the Big Sky expanded.

Well we are expanding........Well SUU?

North Dakota is the only only FCS school interested in joining the Big Sky.
 
catcat said:
SWeberCat02 said:
Fullerton's actual quote:

"The only two really strong FCS members sitting out here that didn't have a football home were Cal Poly and UC Davis"


you are right but the big sky has never been against taking crappy teams. i dont need to name any schools here. lol. location alone will get SUU in.
I hope so. It would be good for Weber to have SUU in the conference. And that's all I care about.
 
I don't have any insider information, but I would bet you lunch that WSU would block SUU from getting into the Sky.
IF SUU gets into the Sky, they would then be in a stronger position to compete for recruits, media coverage (which is already meager), and other resources. If you keep them on the outside looking in, they remain weak and not a legitimate competitor.

byu and uu blackballed USU in getting into the WAC 40 years ago and in effect almost killed USU's football program. USU is still suffering from this exclusion and while not "nice", it is the way things are. 40 years ago, USU was the top dog in college football in the state. Look at how things have turned out since then.

College athletics is a zero sum game and I don't see how having SUU in the Sky benefits WSU in any way. We already have a close rival and travel partner in Idunno state. Why invite another mouth to feed so close to home? I say wait and see who drops out of the WAC or MWC and then make an invitation.

I say no to SUU in the Sky (out of pure self-interest in promoting WSU athletics).
 
could a drop down happen? idaho? san jose st?

fullerton did say its gonna get harder and harder for lower FBS to be successufll and fcs will play larger role in the future without breaking the bank. the economic downturn was a 'reset' and fcs will grow.

i hope it doesnt mean DII's moving up. hopefully its SUU or unlikely drop down.
 
An interesting article from the trib back in Feb

"When it comes to conference realignment, Utah and BYU are the in-state schools most often connected to the discussion.

In fact, sport-talk radio chatter and Internet speculation on the subject has been nonstop since new Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott recently said his league will explore all options in regard to expanded membership.

But what about Southern Utah?

The Thunderbirds, who split time between the little Great West Conference in football and the far-flung Summit League in basketball, need a new home far more urgently than the Utes or Cougars.

While Utah and BYU can continue to prosper in the existing Mountain West Conference – the league appears on track for automatic qualifying status in the BCS – Southern Utah is fighting a hard-to-win battle in its present situation.

But there is a logical solution: membership in the Big Sky Conference.

Athletic director Ken Beazer knows his school is a natural for the Big Sky, although etiquette prevents him from saying so.

That would be like a guy talking about a mistress before his divorce is final.

On the other hand, Big Sky commissioner Doug Fullerton is well-positioned to discuss the subject.

Asked this week how the nine-school Big Sky views expansion, Fullerton said, “It’s an always-type of thing for us. We know where we are in the food chain, so it’s something we need to constantly discuss.”

Asked if Southern Utah would ever be considered, Fullerton said, “Absolutely.”

Now, before you start buying tickets for the annual Weber State-Southern Utah football game, Big Sky expansion is not imminent.

No formal discussions have taken place and presentations have not been sought.

It just makes sense.

Geographically, Southern Utah is a perfect fit.

Academically, SUU is just as qualified for the Big Sky as its newest members – Northern Colorado, Portland State and Sacramento State.

So, suppose Utah goes to the Pac-10 while BYU and/or TCU end up in the Big 12.

Would the Mountain West invade the Western Athletic Conference for replacements – perhaps Boise State, Fresno State, Nevada and/or Utah State?

If so, Fullerton “absolutely believes” the WAC would look toward the Big Sky to replenish its numbers, much like it did not long ago when it added Boise, Idaho and Nevada.

Suppose the WAC convinced Montana and Montana State it was time to move up?

Or suppose the WAC gambled on the potential of larger market schools like Portland State and Sacramento State?

In either case, the Big Sky would need replacements.

Hello, Southern Utah.

Even if change doesn’t rearrange the Mountain West or the WAC, Southern Utah could be attractive to the Big Sky if the league expands to 10 or 12 teams.

Certainly, one barrier has been removed.

Montana president George Dennison is retiring.

For reasons nobody seems to know, Dennison has been adamantly opposed to Southern Utah’s membership in the Big Sky Conference for most of his 20 years on the job.

Perhaps Dennison’s replacement will be more open-minded.

Some would say more logical."


By Steve Luhm, The Salt Lake Tribune
 
Honestly, I'd rather see Idaho or San Jose State than SUU. Of course, the WAC has to completely implode for that to happen. The instate rival I'd like to play annually is USU!! That would be, by far, the most beneficial situation for Weber.
 

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