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I feel sorry for people like Alan that can only enjoy hopping on the bandwagon of a winner. Sure, it is more fun to watch your team win every game, but there is more to going to a game than seeing a win. There is so much happening on the field every play that there is always something to appreciate. These are kids playing with passion and a never give up attitude. It is not like the situation is hopeless. Teams coming off byes, rash of injuries forcing a lot of younger players to see action a little too soon, and a few unlucky bounces of the ball are making wins a valuable commodity.The team is in transition, a program is being built. The fact that people only want to get interested when the job is done and not help contribute and support the process makes the job that much harder. I go every week, enjoy spending time with my wife and watching kids play a game they love with passion. There will be wins and losses, ups and downs in the future but that is part of being a fan.
 
VikNut said:
I feel sorry for people like Alan that can only enjoy hopping on the bandwagon of a winner...there is more to going to a game than seeing a win. The team is in transition, a program is being built. The fact that people only want to get interested when the job is done and not help contribute and support the process makes the job that much harder.
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@Viknut I appreciate your positive attitude. I wish we had a base of 10,000 fans that felt the same way. What concerns me is that we may have about 2,000 who feel that way (plus friends and family of current players). That is not enough to sustain this program in my humble opinion with the administration.

The reality is that sports involve competition, strong competitors desire to win. Excellent programs figure out how to win, mediocre programs seem content to just be able to play. Winning programs attract media attention, bigger crowds, better athletes and better coaches. I think @Alan may represent the hopes of many. It is not an expectation to win the national title every year. It is a desire to be improving at all times. To be taking the necessary steps to field a competitive team.

I think we would all agree with you the "team is in transition". I know more about the offense than the defense. Some of the young coaches, the lack of teaching and the play calling concern me. On the defensive side we all agree we are really young but we should still be able to tackle and scheme effectively.

As with most things in life it comes down to leadership. Is this coaching staff transitioning towards excellence or mediocrity? I know PSU is not alone. The Ducks are concerned, the Beavers are thinking they may be headed in the right direction, the Huskies feel they have the right leadership. We've got 4 games left. We should be a strong favorite in 3 and can hopefully be competitive against EWU. Let's see what our leaders can do with a good group of athletes who do play with passion and deserve our support...
 
VikNut said:
I feel sorry for people like Alan that can only enjoy hopping on the bandwagon of a winner. Sure, it is more fun to watch your team win every game, but there is more to going to a game than seeing a win. There is so much happening on the field every play that there is always something to appreciate. These are kids playing with passion and a never give up attitude. It is not like the situation is hopeless. Teams coming off byes, rash of injuries forcing a lot of younger players to see action a little too soon, and a few unlucky bounces of the ball are making wins a valuable commodity.The team is in transition, a program is being built. The fact that people only want to get interested when the job is done and not help contribute and support the process makes the job that much harder. I go every week, enjoy spending time with my wife and watching kids play a game they love with passion. There will be wins and losses, ups and downs in the future but that is part of being a fan.
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Yes there is more to going than than seeing a win. It is nice to be on hand for a win, but that is not the problem. The problem is sitting though a game when your team does not know how to tackle, does not know how to calculate a pursuit angle, does know how to cover a receiver, etcetera, etcetera. Our defense is either not well coached or the players don't care. Maybe it is a combination both, I don't know. I do know bad football when I see it and I get no pleasure from it. Bad football is bad football, nothing more.
 
I can certainly see how staying home is helpful in trying to establish a program. That attitude is why PSU can not get over the hump. We have fans for two to five years their kids, family or friends are on the team then disappear never to be seen again. Heaven forbid the team doesn't execute to your level of expectation.
 
Establish a program! Where have you been? We've been playing football for decades. We had one magical D2 stretch with Mouse and Pokey. We drew 5 figure crowds. Yes, that is 5 figure crowds to watch D2 football. With exception of a few above average years with Walsh, the AD's and coaches that followed were incapable of maintaining the program. How do I know this? I was there, season after season, watching bad football. Then came our coach of the year! It was a very good year too. Then came this year and we are right back to where we were before last year and getting worse game after game. I'm an expert on bad football. I've watched bad Viking football as a part of minuscule crowds for years and I'm done with it. To see this club fall into the old patterns is simply too depressing. Yes, to get my attention again, they need begin playing like they at least want to be out on the field. When they do and can do it consistently we may rise above the worst attendance in the Big Sky. If we can't maybe we should explore membership in the GNAC.
 
I have been attending PSU games since 1974, that is where I have been and that is where I will continue to go to watch games. I believe we have finally formed a capable team of Administrative support, a bright energetic Athletic Director, and an outstanding Head Football Coach. Walsh was hindered by the Administration and virtually competing with one arm behind his back but still managed to win. The ensuing Glanville/Burton years were disasters. Now our coach and AD are trying to get all the pieces together to form a program from all aspects, top to bottom. I am optimistic that success will be achieved in the BSC that we had in D2.
 
Since I figured we would be 3 - 4 at this point in the season, the only "big" surprise to me is the loss to Weber State. With this bye week, I suspect we will go 3 - 0 our next three games, ending up at 5 - 5 before the Eastern Washington game. Unfortunately, I think that we will lose that one, and end up 5 - 6. Is that really falling "so far, so fast"? I don't think so. That description is far more apt for the Duckies.
 
DavidKeys said:
Since I figured we would be 3 - 4 at this point in the season, the only "big" surprise to me is the loss to Weber State. With this bye week, I suspect we will go 3 - 0 our next three games, ending up at 5 - 5 before the Eastern Washington game. Unfortunately, I think that we will lose that one, and end up 5 - 6. Is that really falling "so far, so fast"? I don't think so. That description is far more apt for the Duckies.
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Ending 5 and 6 with thrashings from San Jose State and UW is quite a come-down from 9 and 3, a first-round bye in the FCS play-offs, defeating Eastern Washington, Montana, Montana State, Washington State and thrashing FBS North Texas. Yes I would still say falling so far so fast. Our play last year was very good; our play this year has been terrible.
 
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