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Coach Craighead

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JackHornet

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Currently the WBB team is 4-10 with a nice win over Washington.

The way I read the story about Coach Craighead, she will automatically be hired as the permanant head coach starting next year.

http://www.bigskyfans.com/hornets/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=497

If that is indeed the case, is that the right decision? Why not open up the job and see who may apply? Maybe a better candidate? I still question why they didn't do that after Muscatell left.
 
JackHornet said:
If that is indeed the case, is that the right decision? Why not open up the job and see who may apply? Maybe a better candidate? I still question why they didn't do that after Muscatell left.
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Wanless will undoubtedly go with whoever they find for the cheapest cost. If Craighead is the low bid, the job is hers.
 
If they went 9-21 last year and they are 4-10 now they are not too far off that pace. With her being a new head coach and the fact that they are playing hard having lost some very close games I would give her the benefit of the doubt for at least another year or two. I just wouldn't like to see another Jenkins situation where they "throw the keys" to someone with no experience and then stay with them for the seven years or so treading water with no consistent progress.
 
Green Laser said:
If they went 9-21 last year and they are 4-10 now they are not too far off that pace. With her being a new head coach and the fact that they are playing hard having lost some very close games I would give her the benefit of the doubt for at least another year or two. I just wouldn't like to see another Jenkins situation where they "throw the keys" to someone with no experience and then stay with them for the seven years or so treading water with no consistent progress.
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No experience applies to Craighead. She has never been a head coach before. Jenkins had much more experience as an assistant than Craighead.
 
JackHornet said:
Green Laser said:
If they went 9-21 last year and they are 4-10 now they are not too far off that pace. With her being a new head coach and the fact that they are playing hard having lost some very close games I would give her the benefit of the doubt for at least another year or two. I just wouldn't like to see another Jenkins situation where they "throw the keys" to someone with no experience and then stay with them for the seven years or so treading water with no consistent progress.
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No experience applies to Craighead. She has never been a head coach before. Jenkins had much more experience as an assistant than Craighead.
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The key words are "head coach"! The job of head coach is far different from that of assistant coach no matter how much experience as assistant coach you may have. Many assistant coaches know the xs and 0s of the game inside and out but far less have the skills and vision to build and maintain a consistently successful program. A decent AD ( which I beleive Dr. Wanless is) can evaluate the progress of the program, and the way it's being run after about three years, and make a decision. Anything longer than that is a waste of time.
 
Green Laser said:
...I just wouldn't like to see another Jenkins situation where they "throw the keys" to someone with no experience and then stay with them for the seven years or so treading water with no consistent progress.
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I wouldn’t call getting the Hornets to the Big Sky tournament and WINNING AT HOME in the first round of the Big Sky Tournament not making any progress. Who was the last coach to win a home Big Sky Tournament before Jenkins?

PS: Not saying we shouldn’t have given him the boot, I’m just pointing out as a student when he was coach; his teams were the only ones that provided any excitement about Sac State athletics.
 
Green Laser said:
JackHornet said:
Green Laser said:
If they went 9-21 last year and they are 4-10 now they are not too far off that pace. With her being a new head coach and the fact that they are playing hard having lost some very close games I would give her the benefit of the doubt for at least another year or two. I just wouldn't like to see another Jenkins situation where they "throw the keys" to someone with no experience and then stay with them for the seven years or so treading water with no consistent progress.
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No experience applies to Craighead. She has never been a head coach before. Jenkins had much more experience as an assistant than Craighead.
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The key words are "head coach"! The job of head coach is far different from that of assistant coach no matter how much experience as assistant coach you may have. Many assistant coaches know the xs and 0s of the game inside and out but far less have the skills and vision to build and maintain a consistently successful program. A decent AD ( which I beleive Dr. Wanless is) can evaluate the progress of the program, and the way it's being run after about three years, and make a decision. Anything longer than that is a waste of time.
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Wanless is a a terrible AD. He should have done a full search last year. Instead he took the easy way out and hired Craighead.

I agree that a good AD can track the progress of a program after three years. But he gave Dan a contract extension after his 4th or 5th year. Dan had about 20 wins after that time. Is the enough progress? Is that a good decision by the AD? Sure everything has to be judged upon it's on merits. Dan can in here and everything was a mess. We were the worst D1 program in the nation. He did some good things to improve the program but the question should have been, is Dan the coach who can take us to the next level? The next level being a consistent Big Sky touny team. That's only the top 6. The years after his contract extension, nothing showed he was getting us to that level.

I hate this thinking that we shouldn't get a new coach because we could end up with another Carolyn Jenkins. The thinking should be we could end up with the next up and coming coach. Though I don't think it is Craigwell.
 
Debbie Colberg was the AD when Jenkins was hired. Jenkins got her first head coaching job at 31. Craighead is 28/29, 2-3 years younger with less assistant coaching experience than Jenkins, who was an assistant at some top programs, Stanford and Michigan St. Craighead? Portland St and one of the top D2 schools. As bad as Jenkins turned out to be, her resume was much better than Craighead's.

We are repeating history, this time with a different AD.
 
Using the building of a house as an analogy, when Dan got the job, Sac St had no foundation at all.

Dan built a pretty solid foundation in his six years. He did a very good job just getting the foundation built. 2 Big Sky touny in six years. But the most wins in any season was 9, which he did twice. Most Big Sky wins 7.

So Dan left the program much better than when he first got here. The question is how good? If I had to grade him on a scale of 1-10, I'd give him a 6.

It seemed that Dan was always in a rebuilding process. In 06-07, coming off a 9-17 season the year before, he flopped to 3-27 (Very Jenkins like) So he doubled his wins in 07-08, to 6 wins but big deal. Then 08-09 his last season, he was 9-21 and 7-9. He was taking too long turning things around.

Right now Craighead is 4-10. Even if she matches last year's 9-21 record, is that really an improvement? Does this show progress?
 
Let's not get the cart in front of the horse ... still half a conference season left to play. I'd say the past week has been more than a little productive for the Hornets!!
 
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