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Coastal Car #1 Really?

Coastal Carolina is a pretty good team, but I suspect Eastern or NDSU would have to lay a pretty big egg to get beat by them. That said, the Big South is a MUCH improved conference. They ought to try and tempt Chattanooga and Wofford away from the insipid SoCon to boost their conference strength to that of a power FCS conference.
 
EWURanger said:
Which poll was this, anyway? Everything I have seen has UNH in the top spot.

Coaches Poll. WAFJ.

This is also how the things like the MEAC getting an at-large happens. Look at NCA&T and it's literally a decent DII schedule.

People who don't do their homework should lose their right to vote.
 
The Big South is improved, but I think it's really only relative to the SoCon. They have owned the SoCon this year and last, but if we're being honest that conference is garbage without Ga Southern and App State. As was mentioned above, CC is a good team, but they haven't beaten anyone. I'm certainly not sold on them as the #1 team in all the land.
 
LDopaPDX said:
Coastal Carolina is a pretty good team, but I suspect Eastern or NDSU would have to lay a pretty big egg to get beat by them. That said, the Big South is a MUCH improved conference. They ought to try and tempt Chattanooga and Wofford away from the insipid SoCon to boost their conference strength to that of a power FCS conference.

They are only good because of proximity to the MEAC and a downward trending SoCon. As a conference, they have one signature performance…Liberty beating App State. Other than that, they really haven't played anyone.
 
kalm said:
LDopaPDX said:
Coastal Carolina is a pretty good team, but I suspect Eastern or NDSU would have to lay a pretty big egg to get beat by them. That said, the Big South is a MUCH improved conference. They ought to try and tempt Chattanooga and Wofford away from the insipid SoCon to boost their conference strength to that of a power FCS conference.

They are only good because of proximity to the MEAC and a downward trending SoCon. As a conference, they have one signature performance…Liberty beating App State. Other than that, they really haven't played anyone.

Also this. CC's best win is over MEAC North Carolina A & T? :lol:
 
kalm said:
LDopaPDX said:
Coastal Carolina is a pretty good team, but I suspect Eastern or NDSU would have to lay a pretty big egg to get beat by them. That said, the Big South is a MUCH improved conference. They ought to try and tempt Chattanooga and Wofford away from the insipid SoCon to boost their conference strength to that of a power FCS conference.

They are only good because of proximity to the MEAC and a downward trending SoCon. As a conference, they have one signature performance…Liberty beating App State. Other than that, they really haven't played anyone.

Coastal went into Fortress Montana last year and whipped the Griz's ass. Obviously, a year can make a difference, but by all accounts they have improved since then and Montana is probably of the same caliber.

However, on the same topic, I'd love to see Eastern take a similar approach to non-con scheduling. With our obligatory BCS game and Big Sky slate, playing OOC monsters like UNI, Sam Houston, NDSU, and Montana State makes life a lot more difficult when there are FCS fluff teams we can beat on.
 
LDopaPDX said:
kalm said:
LDopaPDX said:
Coastal Carolina is a pretty good team, but I suspect Eastern or NDSU would have to lay a pretty big egg to get beat by them. That said, the Big South is a MUCH improved conference. They ought to try and tempt Chattanooga and Wofford away from the insipid SoCon to boost their conference strength to that of a power FCS conference.

They are only good because of proximity to the MEAC and a downward trending SoCon. As a conference, they have one signature performance…Liberty beating App State. Other than that, they really haven't played anyone.

Coastal went into Fortress Montana last year and whipped the Griz's ass. Obviously, a year can make a difference, but by all accounts they have improved since then and Montana is probably of the same caliber.

However, on the same topic, I'd love to see Eastern take a similar approach to non-con scheduling. With our obligatory BCS game and Big Sky slate, playing OOC monsters like UNI, Sam Houston, NDSU, and Montana State makes life a lot more difficult when there are FCS fluff teams we can beat on.

I'm guessing its not for lack of trying, but I agree. The SEC model is a good one.

Regarding their success at Montana, yes, it was a fine first round win. But it wasn't exactly against the Montana of old. I think I read somewhere recently that Montana still doesn't have a win against a ranked opponent under Delaney.
 
kalm said:
LDopaPDX said:
kalm said:
LDopaPDX said:
Coastal Carolina is a pretty good team, but I suspect Eastern or NDSU would have to lay a pretty big egg to get beat by them. That said, the Big South is a MUCH improved conference. They ought to try and tempt Chattanooga and Wofford away from the insipid SoCon to boost their conference strength to that of a power FCS conference.

They are only good because of proximity to the MEAC and a downward trending SoCon. As a conference, they have one signature performance…Liberty beating App State. Other than that, they really haven't played anyone.

Coastal went into Fortress Montana last year and whipped the Griz's ass. Obviously, a year can make a difference, but by all accounts they have improved since then and Montana is probably of the same caliber.

However, on the same topic, I'd love to see Eastern take a similar approach to non-con scheduling. With our obligatory BCS game and Big Sky slate, playing OOC monsters like UNI, Sam Houston, NDSU, and Montana State makes life a lot more difficult when there are FCS fluff teams we can beat on.

I'm guessing its not for lack of trying, but I agree. The SEC model is a good one.

Regarding their success at Montana, yes, it was a fine first round win. But it wasn't exactly against the Montana of old. I think I read somewhere recently that Montana still doesn't have a win against a ranked opponent under Delaney.

This is true. In fact, they only have one win over a team with a winning record during that time (MSU).
 
I agree that it wasn't the Montana of old, but they were still the second best team in the Big Sky last year. And Coastal absolutely pissed on them in Missoula. Theoretically, a team from Myrtle Beach should have a big disadvantage playing in Missoula in December...

BTW, getting a four seed and sent to SC in mid-December might not be all bad... I'd be willing to shell out some frequent flyer miles for that trip.
 
LDopaPDX said:
kalm said:
LDopaPDX said:
Coastal Carolina is a pretty good team, but I suspect Eastern or NDSU would have to lay a pretty big egg to get beat by them. That said, the Big South is a MUCH improved conference. They ought to try and tempt Chattanooga and Wofford away from the insipid SoCon to boost their conference strength to that of a power FCS conference.

They are only good because of proximity to the MEAC and a downward trending SoCon. As a conference, they have one signature performance…Liberty beating App State. Other than that, they really haven't played anyone.

Coastal went into Fortress Montana last year and whipped the Griz's ass. Obviously, a year can make a difference, but by all accounts they have improved since then and Montana is probably of the same caliber.

However, on the same topic, I'd love to see Eastern take a similar approach to non-con scheduling. With our obligatory BCS game and Big Sky slate, playing OOC monsters like UNI, Sam Houston, NDSU, and Montana State makes life a lot more difficult when there are FCS fluff teams we can beat on.

That's an interesting thought. I have actually appreciated the schools willingness to schedule games like this. It shows we aren't afraid of anyone. These games have more prestige, national exposure (just look what happened with the SHSU game!), and I think the players would rather test themselves against the best.

I have to think if the team wanted to schedule fluff, they could. We've done it in the past. Personally, I am looking forward to the UNI game next year. Both teams should be top flight. We might lose, but I think we can overcome that, and still make the playoffs, even with a seed. Question is, if we compete against what could be a top 5 team next year, and lose a close one, is that worse than beating Houston Baptist or the like cupcake? I guess it's a win...but may not say much about our quality.
 
It's a shame that pollsters just look at a record without looking at the quality of wins. I don't think Coastal Carolina plays in a good conference or has any good wins of note but they are ranked number one somehow.
 
Hambone said:
It's a shame that pollsters just look at a record without looking at the quality of wins. I don't think Coastal Carolina plays in a good conference or has any good wins of note but they are ranked number one somehow.

The pollsters might just look at the record, but the playoff committee does a much better job of drilling down. I don't worry too much about the polls until the last one! :D
 
HannahO said:
Hambone said:
It's a shame that pollsters just look at a record without looking at the quality of wins. I don't think Coastal Carolina plays in a good conference or has any good wins of note but they are ranked number one somehow.
The pollsters might just look at the record, but the playoff committee does a much better job of drilling down. I don't worry too much about the polls until the last one! :D
I don't think we are seeing any of the committee's findings at this time. The pollsters no not appear to be looking in much depth into details of a teams season.
I don't get the impression the FCS committee is any where near as detailed as the FBS nat'l championship final four selction committee.
 
The good thing about having a playoff system is the polls don't matter. To be honest, assuming they win the rest of their games, I fully expect NDSU to get the #1 seed in the playoffs. The selection committee seems to pay zero attention to the polls, which is a good.
 

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