CollegeInsider.com Mid Major Top 25

[weberwildcat]

http://www.collegeinsider.com/mmpoll/

As of Dec 15:

Next Top 25: Dec. 22


1. Gonzaga (26) 7-1 768 1
2. Davidson (4) 8-1 748 2
3. Illinois State (1) 9-0 690 4
4. St. Mary's 7-1 659 3
5. Butler 8-1 646 5
6. Creighton 7-2 565 6
7. College of Charleston 7-1 530 7
8. Siena 5-3 524 10
9. VCU 6-3 477 12
10. Stephen F. Austin 6-2 382 11
11. Hofstra 8-1 349 19
12. Liberty 6-2 341 13
13. George Mason 5-2 336 14
14. Western Kentucky 5-3 314 8
15. Cleveland State 6-4 290 15
16. Illinois-Chicago 6-2 272 NR
17. Portland State 7-2 268 17
18. Arkansas-Little Rock 7-2 245 9
19. Miami (Ohio) 6-3 229 NR
20. Evansville 7-1 209 NR
21. VMI 8-2 133 21
22. Rider 5-2 131 22
23. Mercer 6-3 128 16
23. Jacksonville State 6-1 102 25
25. Middle Tennessee 4-3 92 23


OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Niagra 90, Fairfield 72, Murray State 61, Lamar 58, Mt St Mary's 45, Missouri State 36, Wisconsin-Green Bay 35, Drake 34, Akron 33, Arkansas State 30, Navy 29, East Tennessee State 23, South Alabama 21, San Diego 17, Western Carolina 14, Lehigh 12, UC Riverside 11, American 10, Tennessee Tech 9, Kent State 6, San Francisco 5, Portland 4, Vermont 3, Boston University 1.


VOTING PANEL: Mike Adras (Northern Arizona), Randy Bennett (St. Mary's), Will Brown (Albany), Dave Calloway (Monmouth), Kermit Davis (Middle Tennessee), Steve Donahue (Cornell), James Fox (Davidson), Steve Hawkins (Western Michigan), Brad Holland (UC Santa Barbara), Kerry Keating (Santa Clara), Billy Kennedy (Murray State), Tod Kowalczyk (UW-Green Bay), Jim Larranaga (George Mason), Jim Les (Bradley), Mike Lonergan (Vermont), Bart Lundy (High Point), Bob Marlin (Sam Houston State), Gregg Marshall (Wichita State), Ritchie McKay (Liberty), Tom Moore (Quinnipiac), Jimmy Patsos (Loyola MD), Tom Pecora (Hofstra), Vann Pettaway (Alabama A&M), Charles Ramsey (Eastern Michigan), John Shulman (Chattanooga), Brad Stevens (Butler), Gary Stewart (UC Davis), Scott Sutton (Oral Roberts), Scott Wagers (East Tennessee State), James Wilhelmi (Howard), Ralph Willard (Holy Cross).


NOTE: The Mid-Major Poll is made up of teams from the following conferences: America East, Atlantic Sun, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Colonial, Horizon, Independents, Ivy, Metro Atlantic, Mid-American, Mid-Eastern, Missouri Valley, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Southern, Southland, Southwestern, Summit League, Sun Belt, West Coast.


Middle Tennessee head coach Kermit Davis is the chairman of the Top 25 voting panel for the 2008-09 season.

 

[weberwildcat]

As of Dec 29


1. Gonzaga (21) 8-3 751 1
2. Illinois State (3) 12-0 732 2
3. Butler (2) 10-1 686 5
4. St. Mary's (3) 12-1 649 4
4. Davidson (2) 8-2 649 3
6. Creighton 11-2 638 6
7. College of Charleston 10-1 549 7
8. Cleveland State 9-4 511 8
9. VCU 8-4 508 11
10. Portland State 10-3 506 17
11. George Mason 7-2 481 9
12. Liberty 10-4 403 15
13. Stephen F. Austin 7-3 370 12
14. Siena 7-4 335 14
15. Western Kentucky 7-4 331 10
16. Illinois-Chicago 8-3 318 16
17. Evansville 9-2 266 20
18. Hofstra 9-3 202 13
19. Arkansas-Little Rock 8-4 201 18
20. VMI 9-2 152 19
21. Niagara 9-2 127 21
22. East Tennessee State 7-3 110 NR
23. Miami (Ohio) 6-4 107 23
24. Arkansas State 9-3 101 22
25. Drake 8-4 77 24

 

[weberwildcat]

WSU gets votes for Mid-Major Top 25!
http://www.collegeinsider.com/mmpoll/

1. Butler (20) 14-1 763 3
2. St. Mary's (8) 15-1 752 4
3. Gonzaga (3) 10-4 719 2
4. Illinois State 14-2 671 1
5. Davidson 11-3 643 5
6. George Mason 11-3 559 12
7. Siena 12-5 550 6
8. Creighton 13-4 528 7
9. Cleveland State 12-5 526 9
10. College of Charleston 11-3 451 7
11. VMI 13-2 448 13
12. VCU 11-5 402 14
13. Portland State 13-5 373 10
14. Drake 12-4 342 17
15. Middle Tennessee 11-5 324 23
16. Stephen F. Austin 9-4 296 21
17. Evansville 11-4 281 16
18. Wisconsin-Green Bay 11-5 261 18
19. Niagara 13-4 213 20
20. Western Kentucky 10-6 144 11
21. Liberty 11-6 137 15
22. Miami Ohio 8-5 101 19
23. Northeastern 10-5 78 NR
24. Arkansas Little Rock 11-5 74 NR
25. Navy 12-4 67 NR

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Lamar 64, East Tennessee State 59, Wisconsin-Milwaukee 48, Bradley 43, Rider 25, Belmont 22, Arkansas State 20, San Diego 19, Old Dominion 11, Albany 9, North Dakota State 9, Robert Morris 8, Long Beach State 6, Fairfield 6, American 3, Harvard 3, Texas-San Antonio 3, Weber State 2, Austin Peay 1, Cornell 1, Nicholls State 1, Utah Valley 1, Western Carolina 1, Wright State 1.

 

[n.ogdencat]

How did UV-Tech get a vote???

 

[weberwildcat1]

Jan 19th
http://www.collegeinsider.com/mmpoll/

Looks like we fell out of the voting...

Bold=teams we beat

1. Butler (28) 16-1 771 1
2. St. Mary's (2) 17-1 741 2
3. Gonzaga (1) 12-4 708 3
4. Davidson 14-3 687 5
5. Illinois State 16-2 645 4
6. George Mason 13-3 586 6
7. Siena 14-5 570 7
8. College of Charleston 14-3 560 10
9. VCU 13-5 463 12
10. Creighton 14-5 461 8
11. Portland State 14-5 439 13
12. Stephen F. Austin 11-4 414 16
13. Wisconsin-Green Bay 13-5 375 18
14. VMI 14-3 349 11
15. Western Kentucky 12-6 333 20
16. Liberty 13-6 292 21
17. Cleveland State 12-7 287 9
18. Northern Iowa 12-6 231 NR
19. Arkansas-Little Rock 13-5 183 NR
20. Evansville 12-5 179 17
21. Niagara 14-5 166 19
22. Wisconsin-Milwaukee 12-6 83 NR
23. Middle Tennessee 11-7 81 15
24. San Diego 11-7 80 NR
25. Miami 9-6 75 22


OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Navy 59, Drake 41, Northeastern 36, East Tennessee State 28, Belmont 17, Bradley 16, Arkansas State 15, Long Beach State 13, North Dakota State 13, Cornell 11, Wright State 10, American 9, Buffalo 9, Portland 8, Austin Peay 5, UC Riverside 5, Akron 4, Hofstra 4, Lamar 4, Pacific 3, Robert Morris 3, Alabama State 1, Albany 1.

 

[weberwildcat]

Jan 26: WSU back in the voting after 2 road wins...



Next Top 25: Feb. 2


1. Butler (28) 18-1 770 1
2. St. Mary's (2) 18-1 737 2
3. Gonzaga (1) 14-4 711 3
4. Davidson 16-3 695 4
5. Siena 15-5 585 7
6. VCU 15-5 583 9
7. Portland State 15-5 568 11
8. Illinois State 17-3 515 5
9. George Mason 14-5 501 6
10. College of Charleston 15-4 491 8
11. Northern Iowa 14-6 465 18
12. VMI 16-3 429 14
13. Wisconsin-Green Bay 15-6 368 13
14. Stephen F. Austin 12-5 357 12
15. Creighton 15-6 340 10
16. Western Kentucky 13-7 297 15
17. Buffalo 12-5 195 NR
18. Northeastern 13-6 154 NR
19. Liberty 14-7 141 16
20. Arkansas-Little Rock 14-6 127 19
21. Bradley 12-8 118 NR
22. Niagara 14-6 101 21
23. Cleveland State 12-8 92 17
24. Cornell 12-6 91 NR
25. North Dakota State 14-5 81 NR


OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: San Diego 79, Miami (OH) 63, East Tennessee State 54, Wisconsin-Milwaukee 53, Navy 42, Vermont 40, Wright State 38, Austin Peay 35, Portland 33, Evansville 24, Middle Tennessee 24, Robert Morris 21, Long Beach State 13, Hofstra 12, Arkansas State 11, Weber State 10, Belmont 7, Jacksonville 7, Ball State 3, Tennessee-Martin 3, Illinois Chicago 2, Boston University 1, Morgan State 1.

 

[weberwildcat]

Next Top 25: Feb. 9

1. Butler (31) 19-1 775 1
2. Gonzaga 16-4 727 3
3. Davidson 18-3 715 4
4. Siena 17-5 691 5
5. St. Mary's 18-3 588 2
6. Northern Iowa 16-6 574 11
7. VCU 16-6 561 6
8. Wisconsin-Green Bay 17-6 502 13
9. Illinois State 18-4 496 8
10. Northeastern 15-6 488 18
11. George Mason 15-6 473 9
12. VMI 17-3 427 12
13. Portland State 15-7 380 7
14. Stephen F. Austin 14-5 359 14
15. College of Charleston 16-5 327 10
16. Creighton 17-6 348 15
17. Western Kentucky 14-7 261 16
18. Buffalo 14-5 198 17
19. Liberty 16-7 147 19
20. Arkansas-Little Rock 16-6 134 20
21. Niagara 16-6 103 22
22. Cornell 14-6 97 24
23. North Dakota State 16-5 96 25
24. Portland 15-7 80 NR
25. Cleveland State 14-8 75 23

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Miami (OH) 72, East Tennessee State 56, Vermont 50, Wisconsin-Milwaukee 51, Weber State 35, Bradley 33, Austin Peay 35, Robert Morris 27, Middle Tennessee 23, Navy 22, Arkansas State 11, Long Beach State 8, Wright State 8, Belmont 7, Jacksonville 7, Morehead State 5, Ball State 3, Hofstra 3, Tennessee-Martin 3, Boston University 1, Drexel 1, Montana 1, Morgan State 1, Radford 1.

 

[pccatfan]

You have got to be freaking kidding me! How is Portland St still ranked so high? They are third in the conference right now and who do they even have wins over?

 

[WILDCAT]

We are in first at 8-1, and 5-0 on the road, and all we get is 35 votes?

Just like during football season, Weber is just getting NO LOVE.

 

[Weber Fan]

Unfortunately in pretty much all college sports it's about reputation from the previous few years. In 2003 Weber had and gained more of a reputation, but that was six years ago and they have been to the tourney once since then (when the conference was way down, BTW).

We will get love when we win on a constant basis. two years good, two years at .500, and one year great won't get any love on a local or national level.

On another note, this is also a main reason I feel that Weber gets the support from the community that it gets. If they were dominant in football or basketball (or both please) for something like three to five years, they would form a more core fan base around town and the state.

 

[weberwildcat]

You have got to be freaking kidding me! How is Portland St still ranked so high? They are third in the conference right now and who do they even have wins over?

They beat #7 Gonzaga...only reason they are even in the Top 25 at this point. PSU was up to #7 last week but dropped to #13.

After this week PSU has some tough games, at ISU, at WSU, then a home game against Boise State.

PSU was looking really good til this past week really.

 

[weberwildcat]

Next Top 25: Feb. 16

1. Butler (29) 21-2 773 1
2. Gonzaga (2) 17-5 742 2
3. Davidson 20-4 710 3
4. Wisconsin-Green Bay 19-6 636 8
5. St. Mary's 19-4 628 5
6. Siena 18-6 611 4
7. Northern Iowa 17-7 556 11
8. Creighton 19-6 511 16
9. Western Kentucky 17-7 460 17
10. VCU 17-7 458 7
11. Illinois State 19-5 439 9
12. VMI 19-4 383 12
13. Portland State 17-7 376 13
14. College of Charleston 17-6 375 15
15. Northeastern 16-7 347 10
16. George Mason 16-7 343 11
17. Buffalo 16-5 325 18
18. Niagara 19-6 217 21
19. Arkansas-Little Rock 17-6 216 20
20. North Dakota State 18-5 193 23
21. Stephen F. Austin 15-6 181 14
22. Cleveland State 16-8 110 24
23. Liberty 17-8 88 19
24. East Tennessee State 17-6 61 NR
25. Weber State 15-8 57 NR

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Miami Ohio 55, Portland 54, Robert Morris 38, Cornell 22, Vermont 15, Wisconsin-Milwaukee 15, Austin Peay 13, Boston University 9, Tennessee-Martin 9, American 8, Rider 8, Belmont 6, Bradley 6, San Diego 5, Jacksonville 4, Radford 4, James Madison 3, Sam Houston State 2, Citadel 1, Morgan State 1, Wright State 1.



WSU's first time in the Mid-Major Top 25 since the General led the 'Cats to the 2007 Big Sky Championship.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Unfortunately in pretty much all college sports it's about reputation from the previous few years. In 2003 Weber had and gained more of a reputation, but that was six years ago and they have been to the tourney once since then (when the conference was way down, BTW).

We will get love when we win on a constant basis. two years good, two years at .500, and one year great won't get any love on a local or national level.

On another note, this is also a main reason I feel that Weber gets the support from the community that it gets. If they were dominant in football or basketball (or both please) for something like three to five years, they would form a more core fan base around town and the state.

to get consistently large crowds the teams need to be consistent... From 1997-2004 the crowds averaged 5,500 per home basketball game, two seasons of sub-par teams and the fans are gone... Granted, Cravens ball was ridiculous and absolutely boring, but losing will also hurt. Two championships in three years will really help get the fans back into the seats. What really angers me is the lack of student participation.

 

[martymoose]

Next Top 25: Feb. 16

1. Butler (29) 21-2 773 1
2. Gonzaga (2) 17-5 742 2
3. Davidson 20-4 710 3
4. Wisconsin-Green Bay 19-6 636 8
5. St. Mary's 19-4 628 5
6. Siena 18-6 611 4
7. Northern Iowa 17-7 556 11
8. Creighton 19-6 511 16
9. Western Kentucky 17-7 460 17
10. VCU 17-7 458 7
11. Illinois State 19-5 439 9
12. VMI 19-4 383 12
13. Portland State 17-7 376 13
14. College of Charleston 17-6 375 15
15. Northeastern 16-7 347 10
16. George Mason 16-7 343 11
17. Buffalo 16-5 325 18
18. Niagara 19-6 217 21
19. Arkansas-Little Rock 17-6 216 20
20. North Dakota State 18-5 193 23
21. Stephen F. Austin 15-6 181 14
22. Cleveland State 16-8 110 24
23. Liberty 17-8 88 19
24. East Tennessee State 17-6 61 NR
25. Weber State 15-8 57 NR

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Miami Ohio 55, Portland 54, Robert Morris 38, Cornell 22, Vermont 15, Wisconsin-Milwaukee 15, Austin Peay 13, Boston University 9, Tennessee-Martin 9, American 8, Rider 8, Belmont 6, Bradley 6, San Diego 5, Jacksonville 4, Radford 4, James Madison 3, Sam Houston State 2, Citadel 1, Morgan State 1, Wright State 1.



WSU's first time in the Mid-Major Top 25 since the General led the 'Cats to the 2007 Big Sky Championship.

Nice to have two Big Sky teams in the Mid-Major Top 25. It helps everyone.

 

[weberwildcat1]

Next Top 25: Feb. 16

1. Butler (29) 21-2 773 1
2. Gonzaga (2) 17-5 742 2
3. Davidson 20-4 710 3
4. Wisconsin-Green Bay 19-6 636 8
5. St. Mary's 19-4 628 5
6. Siena 18-6 611 4
7. Northern Iowa 17-7 556 11
8. Creighton 19-6 511 16
9. Western Kentucky 17-7 460 17
10. VCU 17-7 458 7
11. Illinois State 19-5 439 9
12. VMI 19-4 383 12
13. Portland State 17-7 376 13
14. College of Charleston 17-6 375 15
15. Northeastern 16-7 347 10
16. George Mason 16-7 343 11
17. Buffalo 16-5 325 18
18. Niagara 19-6 217 21
19. Arkansas-Little Rock 17-6 216 20
20. North Dakota State 18-5 193 23
21. Stephen F. Austin 15-6 181 14
22. Cleveland State 16-8 110 24
23. Liberty 17-8 88 19
24. East Tennessee State 17-6 61 NR
25. Weber State 15-8 57 NR

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Miami Ohio 55, Portland 54, Robert Morris 38, Cornell 22, Vermont 15, Wisconsin-Milwaukee 15, Austin Peay 13, Boston University 9, Tennessee-Martin 9, American 8, Rider 8, Belmont 6, Bradley 6, San Diego 5, Jacksonville 4, Radford 4, James Madison 3, Sam Houston State 2, Citadel 1, Morgan State 1, Wright State 1.



WSU's first time in the Mid-Major Top 25 since the General led the 'Cats to the 2007 Big Sky Championship.

Nice to have two Big Sky teams in the Mid-Major Top 25. It helps everyone.

Does anyone know if this has ever happened before?

Collegeinsider's poll is only 10 years old...the last 10 years have been some of the well how can we put it nicely...some of the not as great years of Big Sky basketball. Not really a dis, just the 70's and 80's were really really good!!

One good reason though this might be the first time ever for this to happen is the fact that until about 4-5 years ago the poll was only a top 10 not 25.

When WSU was in the top 5 in '03 there was only a top 10.

 

[weberwildcat]

Looks like the Big Sky has the answer:


WILDCATS CRACK TOP 25: Weber State is ranked 25th in this week’s Collegeinsider.com Mid-Major poll, marking the first time the Wildcats have been ranked this season. Portland State is ranked 13th in the poll this week. This is the first time since the 2005-06 season that two Big Sky teams have been ranked in the poll at the same time. That season, Montana and Northern Arizona were both ranked.

 

[n.ogdencat]

wasn't that one of Weber's worst seasons ever? No wonder Wildcat fans can't remember... At least we had a coach that could dance on the court like no one else, and was known to crowd serf through the student section on occasion.

 

[WILDCAT]

I still dont think they are giving Weber enough credit. But its good to see us ranked though.

 

[flylikeasparrow]

Mon, Feb 26

1. Gonzaga (20) 19-5 759 2
2. Butler (11) 22-3 752 1
3. Davidson 22-4 718 3
4. Siena 20-6 618 6
5. St. Mary's 20-5 606 5
6. Creighton 21-6 590 8
7. Northern Iowa 18-8 589 7
8. Illinois State 21-5 587 11
9. Wisconsin-Green Bay 19-8 486 4
10. Western Kentucky 17-8 469 9
11. VCU 18-8 463 10
12. Niagara 21-6 357 18
13. Arkansas-Little Rock 19-6 346 19
14. Cleveland State 18-8 318 22
15. VMI 20-5 309 12
16. College of Charleston 18-7 290 14
17. Weber State 17-8 284 25
18. George Mason 17-8 269 16
19. Northeastern 16-9 220 15
20. Buffalo 17-6 217 17
21. Liberty 19-8 169 23
22. North Dakota State 19-6 166 20
23. Robert Morris 19-8 74 NR
24. American 17-7 64 NR
25. Vermont
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Radford 41, Miami (OH) 33, Portland State 32, Stephen F. Austin 31, Troy State 27, Cornell 20, Tennessee-Martin 19, East Tennessee State 17, Austin Peay 13, Portland 13, Nicholls State 10, The Citadel 7, Sam Houston State 7, Wright State 7, Bradley 6, Montana 5, Jacksonville 4, Binghamton 2, Drexel 2, Morgan State 2, Boston University 1, Morehead State 1, Wisconsin-Milwaukee 1.




How a bout that Weber has cracked the top twenty. we are 17th and rising.

 

[WILDCAT]

Sure took forever for PSU to fall out of the rankings.