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superhornet
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Uh, Kadeezy, are you sure we're going to be running an Ace set? I mean, the coaches are the ones who get paid for this, but I'd be a WHOLE lot more comfortable running two-back.
Super Hornet said:
Seriously, have you been paying attention since Coach Sperbeck came on board 3 years ago? He has been running the one-back set the entire time, and will continue to do so...
The Hornets don't have a fullback; therefore running a two-back set would be futile. Plus we are loaded with senior WR's for the 2010 season; it wouldn't make sense to change things up now. The only time a two-back set is used is in goal-line situations, even then it’s most likely a guard lining up in the fullback position.
Kadeezy, this 2-deep chart will take some time to fill out. I’ll try to get something up (for the most part it will be a complete shot in the dark) sometime this weekend.
Kadeezy, this 2-deep chart will take some time to fill out. I’ll try to get something up (for the most part it will be a complete shot in the dark) sometime this weekend.
runningbomb
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I realize that we are only a FCS, low budget football program but is there anyway we can improve hornetsports.com? I know its not the coaches that handle this but someone can put a lot more info out there for us hornet faithful and future hornets. Every other football program, including FCS rivals like Portland and Cal Poly have updated their Coaching Staff on their website, have already posted most of their 2010 schedule, have write-ups about the staff changes and upcoming spring schedule. Some schools even have there spring prospectus up!
It would also be nice to have some better information and facility pictures for future recruits. Our website still has Baiz as DC and shows no info on our upcoming schedule. Just some thoughts for improvement....
I know were not Oklahoma but check out Coach Stoops website:
http://www.bobstoops.com
It would also be nice to have some better information and facility pictures for future recruits. Our website still has Baiz as DC and shows no info on our upcoming schedule. Just some thoughts for improvement....
I know were not Oklahoma but check out Coach Stoops website:
http://www.bobstoops.com
RB I understand the bone to pick with Hornetsports, but I feel they are doing an ok job. Can their content improve? Absolutely, but it is better than quite a few other FCS schools out there. Keep in mind everything that is posted on SacBuzz is either hearsay, speculation, inside information, or flat out lies. That’s the beauty of the internet; it’s up to the reader to decipher what to believe. With that said, I feel that Hornetsports is pretty timely in their reporting. The 2010 schedule has not “officially” been released and although HDD received an email from Wanless giving great credibility to the schedule, it’s not in stone until the athletic department releases it to the media (Hornetsports, Bee, etc). Same goes for the Coach Biaz change. As of now I am considering it a complete rumor until something official comes directly from the athletic department/Sperbeck about the move. I understand the anticipation as I too would like for all the rumored moves and schedule to be made official, but until then there is nothing to do but wait.
With respect to a link to facilities, Hornetsports already has a link to the “Broad Fieldhouse” AND “Stadium Info” on the side tabs. Personally I would like for new photos of Hornet Stadium to be posted, but that’s probably not a priority for them. Hornetsports also posted an article on signing day about the prospects Sperbeck and Co landed. With respect to spring ball last year, if I remember correctly, Hornetsports did have a few articles about it, but it wasn’t too in-depth. I think the football information regarding rosters, schedules, and coaching info is updated sometime between spring ball and summer camp. Yes it’s a long gap but I might suggest contacting someone at Hornetsports as they might provide insight as to when the updates might happen. If after all of this you still want more info about football, blame Sac Rat for closing down shop.
With respect to a link to facilities, Hornetsports already has a link to the “Broad Fieldhouse” AND “Stadium Info” on the side tabs. Personally I would like for new photos of Hornet Stadium to be posted, but that’s probably not a priority for them. Hornetsports also posted an article on signing day about the prospects Sperbeck and Co landed. With respect to spring ball last year, if I remember correctly, Hornetsports did have a few articles about it, but it wasn’t too in-depth. I think the football information regarding rosters, schedules, and coaching info is updated sometime between spring ball and summer camp. Yes it’s a long gap but I might suggest contacting someone at Hornetsports as they might provide insight as to when the updates might happen. If after all of this you still want more info about football, blame Sac Rat for closing down shop.
glad2b-ahornet
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the coaching changes can be confirmed as they have been announced to the team. The website is run by Brian Berger who is in charge of all the sports and is probably busy with basketball and gymnastics right now. check the website to contact him. The schedule has been posted in the locker room, western oregon is the week 2 spot right after stanford
Hammerhead Dad
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SDHornet said:RB I understand the bone to pick with Hornetsports, but I feel they are doing an ok job. Can their content improve? Absolutely, but it is better than quite a few other FCS schools out there. Keep in mind everything that is posted on SacBuzz is either hearsay, speculation, inside information, or flat out lies. That’s the beauty of the internet; it’s up to the reader to decipher what to believe. With that said, I feel that Hornetsports is pretty timely in their reporting. The 2010 schedule has not “officially” been released and although HDD received an email from Wanless giving great credibility to the schedule, it’s not in stone until the athletic department releases it to the media (Hornetsports, Bee, etc). Same goes for the Coach Biaz change. As of now I am considering it a complete rumor until something official comes directly from the athletic department/Sperbeck about the move. I understand the anticipation as I too would like for all the rumored moves and schedule to be made official, but until then there is nothing to do but wait.
With respect to a link to facilities, Hornetsports already has a link to the “Broad Fieldhouse” AND “Stadium Info” on the side tabs. Personally I would like for new photos of Hornet Stadium to be posted, but that’s probably not a priority for them. Hornetsports also posted an article on signing day about the prospects Sperbeck and Co landed. With respect to spring ball last year, if I remember correctly, Hornetsports did have a few articles about it, but it wasn’t too in-depth. I think the football information regarding rosters, schedules, and coaching info is updated sometime between spring ball and summer camp. Yes it’s a long gap but I might suggest contacting someone at Hornetsports as they might provide insight as to when the updates might happen. If after all of this you still want more info about football, blame Sac Rat for closing down shop.
Well, I talked to Coach Baiz and Coach Osterhout and Coach Parker at the recruiting signing party, so I think you can believe that the coaching staff has indeed changed as noted. I also talked to Coach Adams, who is taking over the offensive line. Now we have two sources telling us about Western Oregon in week two, so I think its pretty well set in stone.
Just my humble opinion.
Hammerhead Dad
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Kadeezy said:
The base defense will likely be a 4-2-5. At least that's what I've heard. I guess spring practice will give us all a better idea.
superhornet
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Hammerhead Dad said:
Wow. That's a shock. It would be great back in the days of the old Sky when it was all Al Davis bombs away. Unless at least one of those DBs is employed in an invert (i.e. robber) position like a quasi-linebacker, I don't know that it'll work if other teams start pounding the ball.
I like the move to a 4-2-5. Remember SH, Buck was originally a safety before they moved him the LB last season so I would think he would be fine playing the weak safety role of a 4-2-5. IMO, the 4-2-5 is similar to a 4-3 in that you have an OLB/WS with range and speed who can lineup in various arrangements that can confuse an offense. Also with 3 “safeties” on the field, the defense will be better suited to respond to different looks the offense might throw at them, not to mention the different blitz and cover packages and looks the defense can counter with.
HHD thanks for the clarification about the schedule and coaching changes. It’s not that I doubted your credibility, I just tend to not fully buy into a rumor or move until something is made “official” from the program. In this case, it sounds like Hornetsports is lagging (specifically with regards to the schedule).
HHD thanks for the clarification about the schedule and coaching changes. It’s not that I doubted your credibility, I just tend to not fully buy into a rumor or move until something is made “official” from the program. In this case, it sounds like Hornetsports is lagging (specifically with regards to the schedule).
SDHornet said:
They probably don't have the contract officially signed with Western Oregon to release the schedule...
glad2b-ahornet
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The 4-2-5 is just A rumor. As far as I know we will be much more nickel due to the amount of 10 and 11 personel sets. I don't know who will be the nickel as both of last years are gone. I understand that the 4-3 will still be used against more heavy personel sets. Also to be noted Robbie Case last years offensive g.a. Has been hired as the new te coach. With that I think we can move to a 2 deep depth chart
SactoHornetAlum said:
And when they release it they should let the dogs loose to sale season tickets. Go rabid. If NDSU can sell 10,000 season tickets in Fargo, there is no reason Sac State can't sell that many in the the Central valley.
There is probably 4M people living within 150 miles of Sactown. Thats more than the entire state of ND.
HornetHope
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Green Cookie Monster said:
Seems like a no brainer to me, but we have about 75K graduates living within about a 2hours drive, why not use the alumni list to sell some tickets-out of that list you should be able to sell 7K to 10K.
So here is my attempt at a depth chart. There are quite a few positions up for grabs so obviously a lot can change between now and September 4th. Most of my picks are based off of a players previous playing time and doesn't necessarily represent their talent level with respect to other players on the team. Spring camp will most likely help sort some of this out for the coaches. To give you an insight as to my process, I used my recap write-ups, the 2009 roster which is still available on Hornetsports, and the most recent game notes. (The game notes were from the Causeway game just in case you are wondering. :twisted: )
Offense
QB) 1: MBT 2: Murdaca/Carmazzi
I'd like to see Sperbeck open the starting QB spot to ALL QB's in camp for the sake of competition bringing the best out of everyone. Given the way MBT finished the last half of the last game of the season, as of now I give him the nod.
RB) 1: Hilliard 2:McCowan/Wilkins 4: Smith/Croxdale/Anyone else
I think a few RB's will see considerable playing time. Hilliard will obviously be the power back and McCowan/Wilkins will be put in for speed. Assuming everyone stays healthy, I don't see Croxdale getting much playing time unless it's on special teams. No idea what to expect from Smith, we'll find out this spring. The newbie Douglas should be redshirted.
WR) 1: Reed 2: Hendershott 3: Lane/Richardson 5: Willis 6: Larson
Reed, Hendershott, and Lane are locks to see a ton of playing time. I'd like to see BOTH Reed and Hendershott break the 1k yardage mark in 2010. Reed probably would have done it if he didn't get a slow start to last season. All are seniors so I don't know if the two new WR recruits will redshirt or not. Either way we have a solid group of receivers for 2010. I wouldn't be surprised if Sperbeck ran a considerable amount of plays out of a 4 WR set this season.
TE) 1: Krebs 2: Carter 3: Bobak/Maciel
Carter is the bigger of the two so I would think he would be in on the run packages. Based on the stats I have to assume Krebs has the better hands. Both players will see a fair amount of playing time. It will be interesting to see who will be groomed for the TE position in the future as both Krebs and Carter are seniors. Bobak and Maciel were both freshman last year, they both have size.
RT) 1: Doverspike 2: Weaver
RG) 1: DePauw 2: Tannenbaum
C) 1: Taylor 2: Pfaff
LG) 1: Harrell 2: Tannenbaum
LT) 1: Born 2: Weaver
Ok so I have no idea who will be starting on the OL. The only lock I have as a starter is Taylor at center as he has started every game for the past two seasons. Doverspike started every game last season but he is listed at 250 pounds. As good of a job he did last season, I'd be okay if a heavier and nastier player challenged him for the spot. Harrell is another guy that has the leg up on a starting role. He came over from Hofstra after they folded their program and was the starting center and is in his last year of eligibility.
The bottom line is for the most part, all the skilled positions are set but there are a lot of starting spots up for grabs on the OL with a lot of big underclassmen battling for the spots. This will be something to watch in spring ball.
Defense
According to some rumors here on SacBuzz, the Hornets are making a move to a 4-2-5; it will have an interesting impact for the LB’s. After thinking about the 4-2-5 a little more and taking into consideration the players that are returning, I'd like to think of it as a 4-3 with one of the LB's serving as a "rover" type of role. We'll see which direction the new DC goes in come spring camp.
DE1) Nash
DE2) S Maumau/Heaslet/McKeon/Salter/Anyone else
Nash started 9 games last season and is probably a lock. Heaslet saw action in 9 games last season as well and it will probably come down to him and S Maumau (I think he is a DE due to his lighter weight).There were 3 high school recruits landed for DE so there will most likely be some redshirts at DE this season.
DT1) 1: Clark
DT2) Laban/Lawrence/Agaiava/Fukofuka (Fofa)/Barrett/ M Maumau/Anyone else
Clark is an obvious lock to start. Laban and Lawrence were both freshman last year and will probably be the leading candidate for the starting spot on the other side of Clark. Not sure is Fofa will be redshirted but with his size he could have an immediate impact on the line. Given that a lot of players rotate in and out at DL during a game, it's safe to say all of these guys will get their chances in camp and in the regular season to show what they can do.
I’m pulling for the Maumau brothers so opposing offenses can be “mauled by the Maumau’s”. :lol:
MLB 1) 1: Pereira/Warner
Pereira went down with an injury last season and Warner filled the void. This one is a tossup. Both will be seniors but Pereira touted recruit out of Santa Rosa JC, I have to lean his way here. Either way both players will probably see a lot of playing time and have their chance to shine.
MLB2) 1: G Johnson 2: Coleman
This one is a tossup as well. Johnson started more games so I went with him. Both players will probably see considerable playing time with whoever shines the most in spring and summer camp getting the starting role.
It will be interesting how the two MLB positions will be handled by the coaches assuming a 4-2-5 scheme is run. I think whichever LB's step up and show they can play will get the nod. This will be another interesting battle to watch in spring ball. Given the fact that as a whole the LB crew is fairly young, I think the incoming high school recruits will be redshirted.
CB1) Smith
CB2) Reddic
CB3) Monson/Willis/J Johnson/Fesser/N Jones/Everyone else
Smith is a lock as he started 9 games last season. There were a lot of underclassmen CB's last season so this will be another position where whoever shines the most in camp gets a possible shot at the #2 starting position or nickel back/weak safety (obvious passing situations) spot. I put Riddic at #2 because he was listed as a backup CB at the end of last season and played in 6 games. Monson is an incoming JC transfer so I would think his abilities are near the top of the group but I really don't know. The high school DB recruits will probably be redshirted due to all the returning underclassmen.
SS) 1: Buck 2: White?
WS) 1: Schrader 2: Martinez
FS) 1: Gordon 2: Willis/Martinez
Buck made the move from SS and filled in quite well, but now he will probably be moved back to a “safety” position. He is probably a lock as starter as he had 80 tackles and has a knack for finding the ball. Not sure if they will try and plug White into the SS role but with the abundance of LB’s and taking into consideration of the 4-2-5 change, the speedier LB’s with range will probably be tried out in the SS spot. I don’t know who might fall into this category. Schrader and Gordon are locks to be the starters imo, both started every game last season. Martinez is a mid-year transfer and I don't know what safety position he has experience at so I listed him as both WS and FS. Also with the young DB's on the roster from last season, I have no idea if any are specializing as CB or S.
Basically aside from a few spots, I think a lot of defensive positions will be up for grabs in camp. The good news is there is size at both LB and DL and there is plenty of youth. Seeing as a lot of underclassmen will be returning, I think a lot of the new defensive high school recruits will be redshirted. However with the new DC being confirmed, I have no idea what direction he will take with respect to which players will play and what type of defensive schemes will be used. Either way the Hornet defense has a lot of improvement to make and there are a lot of underclassmen to mold. It will be an interesting year.
Special Teams
K) Diniz
P) Heath
LS) Badger/Anyone else
The only question here is who will be the long snapper. No comment necessary for the returning kickers, both are returning players and they should do well this season. As far as the return specialists go, I won't spend too much time here. I will assume the most explosive players with the ball have a shot at these spots.
I left off/didn't mention a lot of players returning as I just don't have any idea as to how they fit into the equation so I apologize for that if any of them are reading this, I mean no disrespect. As someone on the outside looking in, I can see a lot of the defensive starting spots being up for grabs. All I can say is if the coaches play the best players, this defense has the potential to greatly improve and an offense that can be dangerous with the ability to score points on the ground or through the air.
Go Hornets!
Offense
QB) 1: MBT 2: Murdaca/Carmazzi
I'd like to see Sperbeck open the starting QB spot to ALL QB's in camp for the sake of competition bringing the best out of everyone. Given the way MBT finished the last half of the last game of the season, as of now I give him the nod.
RB) 1: Hilliard 2:McCowan/Wilkins 4: Smith/Croxdale/Anyone else
I think a few RB's will see considerable playing time. Hilliard will obviously be the power back and McCowan/Wilkins will be put in for speed. Assuming everyone stays healthy, I don't see Croxdale getting much playing time unless it's on special teams. No idea what to expect from Smith, we'll find out this spring. The newbie Douglas should be redshirted.
WR) 1: Reed 2: Hendershott 3: Lane/Richardson 5: Willis 6: Larson
Reed, Hendershott, and Lane are locks to see a ton of playing time. I'd like to see BOTH Reed and Hendershott break the 1k yardage mark in 2010. Reed probably would have done it if he didn't get a slow start to last season. All are seniors so I don't know if the two new WR recruits will redshirt or not. Either way we have a solid group of receivers for 2010. I wouldn't be surprised if Sperbeck ran a considerable amount of plays out of a 4 WR set this season.
TE) 1: Krebs 2: Carter 3: Bobak/Maciel
Carter is the bigger of the two so I would think he would be in on the run packages. Based on the stats I have to assume Krebs has the better hands. Both players will see a fair amount of playing time. It will be interesting to see who will be groomed for the TE position in the future as both Krebs and Carter are seniors. Bobak and Maciel were both freshman last year, they both have size.
RT) 1: Doverspike 2: Weaver
RG) 1: DePauw 2: Tannenbaum
C) 1: Taylor 2: Pfaff
LG) 1: Harrell 2: Tannenbaum
LT) 1: Born 2: Weaver
Ok so I have no idea who will be starting on the OL. The only lock I have as a starter is Taylor at center as he has started every game for the past two seasons. Doverspike started every game last season but he is listed at 250 pounds. As good of a job he did last season, I'd be okay if a heavier and nastier player challenged him for the spot. Harrell is another guy that has the leg up on a starting role. He came over from Hofstra after they folded their program and was the starting center and is in his last year of eligibility.
The bottom line is for the most part, all the skilled positions are set but there are a lot of starting spots up for grabs on the OL with a lot of big underclassmen battling for the spots. This will be something to watch in spring ball.
Defense
According to some rumors here on SacBuzz, the Hornets are making a move to a 4-2-5; it will have an interesting impact for the LB’s. After thinking about the 4-2-5 a little more and taking into consideration the players that are returning, I'd like to think of it as a 4-3 with one of the LB's serving as a "rover" type of role. We'll see which direction the new DC goes in come spring camp.
DE1) Nash
DE2) S Maumau/Heaslet/McKeon/Salter/Anyone else
Nash started 9 games last season and is probably a lock. Heaslet saw action in 9 games last season as well and it will probably come down to him and S Maumau (I think he is a DE due to his lighter weight).There were 3 high school recruits landed for DE so there will most likely be some redshirts at DE this season.
DT1) 1: Clark
DT2) Laban/Lawrence/Agaiava/Fukofuka (Fofa)/Barrett/ M Maumau/Anyone else
Clark is an obvious lock to start. Laban and Lawrence were both freshman last year and will probably be the leading candidate for the starting spot on the other side of Clark. Not sure is Fofa will be redshirted but with his size he could have an immediate impact on the line. Given that a lot of players rotate in and out at DL during a game, it's safe to say all of these guys will get their chances in camp and in the regular season to show what they can do.
I’m pulling for the Maumau brothers so opposing offenses can be “mauled by the Maumau’s”.
:lol: MLB 1) 1: Pereira/Warner
Pereira went down with an injury last season and Warner filled the void. This one is a tossup. Both will be seniors but Pereira touted recruit out of Santa Rosa JC, I have to lean his way here. Either way both players will probably see a lot of playing time and have their chance to shine.
MLB2) 1: G Johnson 2: Coleman
This one is a tossup as well. Johnson started more games so I went with him. Both players will probably see considerable playing time with whoever shines the most in spring and summer camp getting the starting role.
It will be interesting how the two MLB positions will be handled by the coaches assuming a 4-2-5 scheme is run. I think whichever LB's step up and show they can play will get the nod. This will be another interesting battle to watch in spring ball. Given the fact that as a whole the LB crew is fairly young, I think the incoming high school recruits will be redshirted.
CB1) Smith
CB2) Reddic
CB3) Monson/Willis/J Johnson/Fesser/N Jones/Everyone else
Smith is a lock as he started 9 games last season. There were a lot of underclassmen CB's last season so this will be another position where whoever shines the most in camp gets a possible shot at the #2 starting position or nickel back/weak safety (obvious passing situations) spot. I put Riddic at #2 because he was listed as a backup CB at the end of last season and played in 6 games. Monson is an incoming JC transfer so I would think his abilities are near the top of the group but I really don't know. The high school DB recruits will probably be redshirted due to all the returning underclassmen.
SS) 1: Buck 2: White?
WS) 1: Schrader 2: Martinez
FS) 1: Gordon 2: Willis/Martinez
Buck made the move from SS and filled in quite well, but now he will probably be moved back to a “safety” position. He is probably a lock as starter as he had 80 tackles and has a knack for finding the ball. Not sure if they will try and plug White into the SS role but with the abundance of LB’s and taking into consideration of the 4-2-5 change, the speedier LB’s with range will probably be tried out in the SS spot. I don’t know who might fall into this category. Schrader and Gordon are locks to be the starters imo, both started every game last season. Martinez is a mid-year transfer and I don't know what safety position he has experience at so I listed him as both WS and FS. Also with the young DB's on the roster from last season, I have no idea if any are specializing as CB or S.
Basically aside from a few spots, I think a lot of defensive positions will be up for grabs in camp. The good news is there is size at both LB and DL and there is plenty of youth. Seeing as a lot of underclassmen will be returning, I think a lot of the new defensive high school recruits will be redshirted. However with the new DC being confirmed, I have no idea what direction he will take with respect to which players will play and what type of defensive schemes will be used. Either way the Hornet defense has a lot of improvement to make and there are a lot of underclassmen to mold. It will be an interesting year.
Special Teams
K) Diniz
P) Heath
LS) Badger/Anyone else
The only question here is who will be the long snapper. No comment necessary for the returning kickers, both are returning players and they should do well this season. As far as the return specialists go, I won't spend too much time here. I will assume the most explosive players with the ball have a shot at these spots.
I left off/didn't mention a lot of players returning as I just don't have any idea as to how they fit into the equation so I apologize for that if any of them are reading this, I mean no disrespect. As someone on the outside looking in, I can see a lot of the defensive starting spots being up for grabs. All I can say is if the coaches play the best players, this defense has the potential to greatly improve and an offense that can be dangerous with the ability to score points on the ground or through the air.
Go Hornets!
