Eastern vs. Montana St. Game Day Thread

[KWCAT]

Montana State Bobcats come to town November 6.
They carry with them a 7-1 overall and 5-0 conference record.
However, MSU has not had much success on the red turf and is currently banged up at some key positions. The Cats physically outmatched the team that physically handled EWU.
Who will be healthy and have the best game plan?
I have not watched the Weber EWU game but am curious how Weebs corralled EB.
I am making the trip to Cheney and look forward to the game.

What is the perspective of the EWU faithful on the contest?

 

[LDopaPDX]

Montana State Bobcats come to town November 6.
They carry with them a 7-1 overall and 5-0 conference record.
However, MSU has not had much success on the red turf and is currently banged up at some key positions. The Cats physically outmatched the team that physically handled EWU.
Who will be healthy and have the best game plan?
I have not watched the Weber EWU game but am curious how Weebs corralled EB.
I am making the trip to Cheney and look forward to the game.

What is the perspective of the EWU faithful on the contest?

Beating Montana State has been a rite of passage at Eastern for the last decade. Interestingly, Eastern beat MSU the year they won the National Championship and Montana State beat Eastern in 2010. Weird.

Ultimately, I expect Montana State's defense to slow Eastern's offense, but won't keep them from scoring a few points. I expect sort of a Weber performance from Eastern's offense... maybe in the 30s. At the very least, I expect both teams to have some measure of success when Eastern has the ball; Montana State has an elite FCS defense and sure won't make it easy.

Therefore, it'll come down to Eastern stopping MSU from scoring in the 30s. Weber laid the blueprint for beating Eastern's D.... just keep running the ball knowing you'll break some tackles and drain the clock. Eastern has historically struggled with power offenses, and this year is better, but weber made it work. The Bobcats have only mustered a 20 point average in their last two games, but teams always overperform their averages against Eastern.

I'd make Montana State a favorite on a neutral field. In Cheney, it's 50/50. It's hard to gauge what Eastern psyche will be coming off a bitter loss where they almost had to invent a way to lose. Maybe they bounce... in 2018 we played horrific against Weber going into a bye week and came out gangbusters two weeks later. Obviously, that's the hope. Montana State won't be a team that beats themselves.

 

[KWCAT]

Montana State Bobcats come to town November 6.
They carry with them a 7-1 overall and 5-0 conference record.
However, MSU has not had much success on the red turf and is currently banged up at some key positions. The Cats physically outmatched the team that physically handled EWU.
Who will be healthy and have the best game plan?
I have not watched the Weber EWU game but am curious how Weebs corralled EB.
I am making the trip to Cheney and look forward to the game.

What is the perspective of the EWU faithful on the contest?

Beating Montana State has been a rite of passage at Eastern for the last decade. Interestingly, Eastern beat MSU the year they won the National Championship and Montana State beat Eastern in 2010. Weird.

Ultimately, I expect Montana State's defense to slow Eastern's offense, but won't keep them from scoring a few points. I expect sort of a Weber performance from Eastern's offense... maybe in the 30s. At the very least, I expect both teams to have some measure of success when Eastern has the ball; Montana State has an elite FCS defense and sure won't make it easy.

Therefore, it'll come down to Eastern stopping MSU from scoring in the 30s. Weber laid the blueprint for beating Eastern's D.... just keep running the ball knowing you'll break some tackles and drain the clock. Eastern has historically struggled with power offenses, and this year is better, but weber made it work. The Bobcats have only mustered a 20 point average in their last two games, but teams always overperform their averages against Eastern.

I'd make Montana State a favorite on a neutral field. In Cheney, it's 50/50. It's hard to gauge what Eastern psyche will be coming off a bitter loss where they almost had to invent a way to lose. Maybe they bounce... in 2018 we played horrific against Weber going into a bye week and came out gangbusters two weeks later. Obviously, that's the hope. Montana State won't be a team that beats themselves.

Just watched the EWU Weber highlight . Man EB is a handful!
MSU is going to have to control the ball and I believe be +2 0r 3 on TO margin and solve it's offensive woes.
Highlight only showed 2 fake punts by Weber, I heard their were more!

 

[Obzerver]

KWCAT you mentioned "The Cats physically outmatched the team that physically handled EWU". Then you said "I have not watched the Weber EWU game but am curious how Weebs corralled EB". Now maybe Weber physically handled EWU and maybe they didn't but don't think it was obvious to me, so that seemed odd you mentioned that not see the game.
I did watch watch MSU vs Weber and it didn't come across to me that MSU physically handled Weber, thought it was a pretty evenly matched game.
Think it will be a great game as most of the games between the two are entertaining with twists and turns.
And yes there were more than 2 fake punts, think there was 7 and without those the score would have looked much different and then again maybe not(actually 3 fake punts)

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[Obzerver]

KWCAT you mentioned "The Cats physically outmatched the team that physically handled EWU". Then you said "I have not watched the Weber EWU game but am curious how Weebs corralled EB". Now maybe Weber physically handled EWU and maybe they didn't but don't think it was obvious to me, so that seemed odd you mentioned that but not see the game.
I did watch watch MSU vs Weber and it didn't come across to me that MSU physically handled Weber, thought it was a pretty evenly matched game.
Think it will be a great game as most of the games between the two are entertaining with twists and turns.
And yes there were more than 2 fake punts, think there was 7 and without those the score would have looked much different and then again maybe not(actually 3 fake punts)

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[KWCAT]

KWCAT you mentioned "The Cats physically outmatched the team that physically handled EWU". Then you said "I have not watched the Weber EWU game but am curious how Weebs corralled EB". Now maybe Weber physically handled EWU and maybe they didn't but don't think it was obvious to me, so that seemed odd you mentioned that not see the game.
I did watch watch MSU vs Weber and it didn't come across to me that MSU physically handled Weber, thought it was a pretty evenly matched game.
Think it will be a great game as most of the games between the two are entertaining with twists and turns.
And yes there were more than 2 fake punts, think there was 7 and without those the score would have looked much different and then again maybe not(actually 3 fake punts)

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You are correct that as of my first post I had watched neither the game nor the highlights. I was merely making a judgement on comments combined from your fan board, other fan boards, as well as fans that watched the game. Thank you for keeping me from stretching the truth.
However you did not answer the EB question>

Previous to your post I did watch the highlights and as I suspected Weber physically dominated the trenches on both sides of the ball. It became more apparent as the game wore on and weebs back ran at will when it counted most.
EB however, combined with your wr core, kept the game within reach until the missed PAT. He(EB) is one elusive dude. Even though weeb's defense was constantly in the backfield when they chose to be, he constantly eluded tacklers and made plays with his feet and arm.
I think the answer to my question is, "Weber did not corral EB ,for the most part, but simply limited him on a few occasions.

Shaheed, who was less of a factor in our game, had a few large impact plays in your game.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKBVF3a6LsM[/media]


I continue to believe this game could be a dogfight even though both teams have huge contrasts.

 

[KWCAT]

Also, as in our game, Weebs did a good job of talking smack during the game. I am not sure what they do, but they seem to always do a good job at getting in the opposition's head.
Heck, when we played them they even got one of our guys so frustrated he lined up significantly offsides.

Some of your receivers got tremendously wound up late in the game by chatter.

 

[Obzerver]

Also, as in our game, Weebs did a good job of talking smack during the game. I am not sure what they do, but they seem to always do a good job at getting in the opposition's head.
Heck, when we played them they even got one of our guys so frustrated he lined up significantly offsides.

Some of your receivers got tremendously wound up late in the game by chatter.

Good stuff KWCAT, insightful on your part...when you said that I can see that.
You had asked "I have not watched the Weber EWU game but am curious how Weebs corralled EB". Didnt answer that as you mentioned. Personally I thought it was more that EB3 played poorly than Weber corralling him although they did put a whole lot of pressure on him but he seemed off. Pressure isn't foreign to him.

 

[KWCAT]

Also, as in our game, Weebs did a good job of talking smack during the game. I am not sure what they do, but they seem to always do a good job at getting in the opposition's head.
Heck, when we played them they even got one of our guys so frustrated he lined up significantly offsides.

Some of your receivers got tremendously wound up late in the game by chatter.

Good stuff KWCAT, insightful on your part...when you said that I can see that.
You had asked "I have not watched the Weber EWU game but am curious how Weebs corralled EB". Didnt answer that as you mentioned. Personally I thought it was more that EB3 played poorly than Weber corralling him although they did put a whole lot of pressure on him but he seemed off. Pressure isn't foreign to him.

Fair enough. I thought he looked good. He made tough throws and was Houdini a few times with his legs.
I think Weber's backfield played extremely well. Most QB's would've been sacked multiple times.
Anyway hoping for a healthy MSU backfield.
I think our front seven are as good and are faster than Weber's. We'll see,

 

[GoldenEagle]

The EAGS played mediocre, had three turnovers that killed drives, and incredibly allowed Weber to convert three fake punts. That is six lost possessions that they could have scored on. Given this crappy performance, they still could have sent the game into overtime.

MSU has a good running back and they will try to establish the run. Their passing offense is weak, essentially dink and dunk. They will not beat the EAGS passing. Control their running game, don’t have turnovers and for shit’s sake, shore up the special teams. MSU is a good team, but not EWU good.

 

[clawman1]

I'd summarize the reason Eagles lost to Weber with one word:
TURNOVERS
Early on wide receivers put the ball on the ground 3x, fortunately they recovered their on mistake. Later on the Wildcats stripped the ball 2x and recovered those.
3x fake punts were really turnovers of a sense, and a penalty that would have been an Eagle 1st down is as good as a turnover. Weber was focused on stripping the ball and it rewarded them with the win.
I was impressed with the Weber strategies and we got out coached!

 

[KWCAT]

I'd summarize the reason Eagles lost to Weber with one word:
TURNOVERS
Early on wide receivers put the ball on the ground 3x, fortunately they recovered their on mistake. Later on the Wildcats stripped the ball 2x and recovered those.
3x fake punts were really turnovers of a sense, and a penalty that would have been an Eagle 1st down is as good as a turnover. Weber was focused on stripping the ball and it rewarded them with the win.
I was impressed with the Weber strategies and we got out coached!

Looks like TO margin was +1 for Weber. EWU put the ball on the ground 6x and lost 2.
I do agree the fake punt conversions are like turnovers as well.
MSU needs to be +2 or 3 to win. Eastern will be playing for it's playoff life, or probably better said. seeding.

 

[EWURanger]

Weber was a perfect storm game where everything that could go wrong, did. Just a bad game…but the turnovers and fake punts are what did us in ultimately.

I think we match up well with MSU, and the bye week will do us well in getting some players back. I expect we’ll come out and play well, but like most, expect it to be a dog fight.

 

[FormerEag]

With SIU and Nova going down, I think this should be a 4 vs 5 matchup. Can’t wait.

 

[Obzerver]

With SIU and Nova going down, I think this should be a 4 vs 5 matchup. Can’t wait.

Thats HUGE!!! really good for us

 

[luckyintheorder]

The EAGS played mediocre, had three turnovers that killed drives, and incredibly allowed Weber to convert three fake punts. That is six lost possessions that they could have scored on. Given this crappy performance, they still could have sent the game into overtime.

MSU has a good running back and they will try to establish the run. Their passing offense is weak, essentially dink and dunk. They will not beat the EAGS passing. Control their running game, don’t have turnovers and for shit’s sake, shore up the special teams. MSU is a good team, but not EWU good.

Love it. "...not EWU good" sums it up.

 

[KWCAT]

[media] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irJmSVFkeCI[/media]

 

[Seattle Eagle]

I just hope the staff made good use of the bye week to address some issues because that Weber game was just hard to watch.

 

[GreatDayToBeAnEagle]

I know only this year matters, but can someone put in this thread what this series matchup has been like the last 20 years? I honestly can only remember MSU winning once, maybe twice since like 2012. One time the national championship year and then maybe once at Joe Albi. Does that seem right?

 

[luckyintheorder]

I know only this year matters, but can someone put in this thread what this series matchup has been like the last 20 years? I honestly can only remember MSU winning once, maybe twice since like 2012. One time the national championship year and then maybe once at Joe Albi. Does that seem right?

Go to schedule on the goeags site and then see "history" link. Here is the one for MSU. Eag's are 8-2 over the past 10 years and have won the last 7... Can't say before that.

https://goeags.com/sports/football/opponent-history/montana-state-university/7