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[Seattle Eagle]

Is a funny read this week. That is all.

 

[EWURanger]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

 

[EWU98]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

I honestly think that investigation and potential death penalty has really made it hard to recruit for their coaches. That is a nasty cloud that won't go away anytime soon.

 

[eaglesfootball]

Is a funny read this week. That is all.

Your first mistake was reading efriz.

 

[Hambone]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

This sort of rhetoric is nothing new with the Montana schools. It’s the “bigger budget, bigger stadium, more fans” mindset. And since we don’t have as much of those things, we obviously must be cheating because there’s no other reason to explain how we could beat them on a consistent basis. Nevermind the fact that we’ve had far superior coaching and recruiting.

I still remember when Montana came calling trying to get Beau Baldwin to come and he was like “nah I’m good”

 

[scottywashere11]

I honestly think that investigation and potential death penalty has really made it hard to recruit for their coaches. That is a nasty cloud that won't go away anytime soon.

Woh... I need to read krakauer's book. I didn't know a potential death sentence is on the line. The wild part to me is that it all went down while Hauck was there and now he is back.

 

[EWURanger]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

This sort of rhetoric is nothing new with the Montana schools. It’s the “bigger budget, bigger stadium, more fans” mindset. And since we don’t have as much of those things, we obviously must be cheating because there’s no other reason to explain how we could beat them on a consistent basis. Nevermind the fact that we’ve had far superior coaching and recruiting.

I still remember when Montana came calling trying to get Beau Baldwin to come and he was like “nah I’m good”

Oh, I know. It's the same old tired song and dance for years now.

A 32-10 overall record vs. MSU, and 7-1 against Montana this decade says all that needs to be said.

Frankly, I think most Montana fans are glad that they no longer have to play us on an annual basis. At least with Idaho, they get to play a program that's so down they probably won't win more than 3 games in the Big Sky this season.

 

[LDopaPDX]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

Someone actually posted that our success is due to drop-down transfers and academic non-quals?

Do we have a single drop down or academic non-qual on our team? I can't think of a single one.

The especially comical element is that Hauck runs his team as Transfer U. And if we want to see academic non-quals, that's Idaho. We run a tight program. We take very few transfers and I can't even remember the last academic non-qual we signed. There was a DT a couple years back that washed out almost immediately and we had a California running back who did the same. But those were several seasons ago.

 

[EWURanger]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

Someone actually posted that our success is due to drop-down transfers and academic non-quals?

Do we have a single drop down or academic non-qual on our team? I can't think of a single one.

The especially comical element is that Hauck runs his team as Transfer U. And if we want to see academic non-quals, that's Idaho. We run a tight program. We take very few transfers and I can't even remember the last academic non-qual we signed. There was a DT a couple years back that washed out almost immediately and we had a California running back who did the same. But those were several seasons ago.

Yes, I have seen this for several years now that that's the perception many fans of both Montana schools have. I don't understand it, either, but it's out there. The funny thing is that of all of the All-Americans we've had at EWU (there have been many), I can only think of one that was a Prop 48 (Taiwan Jones). Similarly, of the 4 or 5 guys we currently have active on NFL rosters, only 1 of them fits into that category (Jones). Plenty of guys on CFL rosters that this is true of as well.

As you mentioned, we don't recruit many of those guys. And of those that we do, very few of them actually get their academic affairs in order enough to actually make the team. The assertion that we have a roster full of them is absolutely ridiculous. There may be one or two.

As for the drop-down transfer piece, that's laughable. I can think of two currently on the roster. Not that those are a bad thing, either, but Baldwin just didn't accept many of them and in fact turned many away. Like you said, Hauck made a living on transfers during his first stint...even accepting guys that were released under very dubious circumstances. Kavario Middleton comes to mind.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

Someone actually posted that our success is due to drop-down transfers and academic non-quals?

Do we have a single drop down or academic non-qual on our team? I can't think of a single one.

The especially comical element is that Hauck runs his team as Transfer U. And if we want to see academic non-quals, that's Idaho. We run a tight program. We take very few transfers and I can't even remember the last academic non-qual we signed. There was a DT a couple years back that washed out almost immediately and we had a California running back who did the same. But those were several seasons ago.

Yes, I have seen this for several years now that that's the perception many fans of both Montana schools have. I don't understand it, either, but it's out there. The funny thing is that of all of the All-Americans we've had at EWU (there have been many), I can only think of one that was a Prop 48 (Taiwan Jones). Similarly, of the 4 or 5 guys we currently have active on NFL rosters, only 1 of them fits into that category (Jones). Plenty of guys on CFL rosters that this is true of as well.

As you mentioned, we don't recruit many of those guys. And of those that we do, very few of them actually get their academic affairs in order enough to actually make the team. The assertion that we have a roster full of them is absolutely ridiculous. There may be one or two.

As for the drop-down transfer piece, that's laughable. I can think of two currently on the roster. Not that those are a bad thing, either, but Baldwin just didn't accept many of them and in fact turned many away. Like you said, Hauck made a living on transfers during his first stint...even accepting guys that were released under very dubious circumstances. Kavario Middleton comes to mind.

Facts, logic, class, and intelligence are hard to come by on that forum. Not sure why any of this is surprising to some.

 

[EWURanger]

I still remember when Montana came calling trying to get Beau Baldwin to come and he was like “nah I’m good”

Fact! I actually forgot about that but thanks for reminding me. :lol:

 

[sammamisheag]

Each year, UM's enrollment declines while MSU keeps growing. The main reason is UM doesn't offer many STEM degrees such as Engineering. My son is a senior in Bozeman (Mech Eng) who's dept received a $19M grant to upgrade their Engineering buildings and labs. UM isn't getting those grants.

The other problem UM has as it's been a while since they got past the 2nd of the playoffs. Recruits don't remember Montana being dominant. The same dynamic was true here in Washington with UW until they got Chris Peterson.

What is worrisome is that both the Mont schools have the $$$ from alumni/boosters that EWU can't match which is why it is so critical to cash in the current success of the program to get a new facility built. At some point, Montana is going to get their act together and when they do, they'll have access to those $$.

For now, EWU is still the sheriff in the BSC. Let's keep it that way. DONATE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rivercat]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

Someone actually posted that our success is due to drop-down transfers and academic non-quals?

Do we have a single drop down or academic non-qual on our team? I can't think of a single one.

The especially comical element is that Hauck runs his team as Transfer U. And if we want to see academic non-quals, that's Idaho. We run a tight program. We take very few transfers and I can't even remember the last academic non-qual we signed. There was a DT a couple years back that washed out almost immediately and we had a California running back who did the same. But those were several seasons ago.

Yes, I have seen this for several years now that that's the perception many fans of both Montana schools have. I don't understand it, either, but it's out there. The funny thing is that of all of the All-Americans we've had at EWU (there have been many), I can only think of one that was a Prop 48 (Taiwan Jones). Similarly, of the 4 or 5 guys we currently have active on NFL rosters, only 1 of them fits into that category (Jones). Plenty of guys on CFL rosters that this is true of as well.

As you mentioned, we don't recruit many of those guys. And of those that we do, very few of them actually get their academic affairs in order enough to actually make the team. The assertion that we have a roster full of them is absolutely ridiculous. There may be one or two.

As for the drop-down transfer piece, that's laughable. I can think of two currently on the roster. Not that those are a bad thing, either, but Baldwin just didn't accept many of them and in fact turned many away. Like you said, Hauck made a living on transfers during his first stint...even accepting guys that were released under very dubious circumstances. Kavario Middleton comes to mind.

Facts, logic, class, and intelligence are hard to come by on that forum.Not sure why any of this is surprising to some.

This nails it.

Egriz is a great place to go get a laugh and see a truly arrogant and entitled fan base whine about anything they can. After a loss, it’s especially great, they’re quick to go from 0 to 100 and then even quicker to go from 100 back down to 0. When they were 4-1, it was game on, Bobby’s back, they may win the conference in year 1, etc. Now that they have a bad loss, the train has gone off the tracks and they’ll be 6-5 if they’re lucky.

I read the same comment about the drop downs and non-qualifiers. I had honesty never heard that before, so I wouldn’t say that both Montana schools fans feel that way. Apparently that’s a thing in the um world, but I don’t think so with MSU fans.

As far as the facility thing goes, that is one thing that I’ve always been impressed by. I’m in no way saying EWU cheats at recruiting, I know they don’t. But the fact that they’ve consistently recruited the way they have and been so good for so long, with that stadium and facilities is very impressive. That’s not meant as a shot, just the way I see it.

 

[LDopaPDX]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

Someone actually posted that our success is due to drop-down transfers and academic non-quals?

Do we have a single drop down or academic non-qual on our team? I can't think of a single one.

The especially comical element is that Hauck runs his team as Transfer U. And if we want to see academic non-quals, that's Idaho. We run a tight program. We take very few transfers and I can't even remember the last academic non-qual we signed. There was a DT a couple years back that washed out almost immediately and we had a California running back who did the same. But those were several seasons ago.

Yes, I have seen this for several years now that that's the perception many fans of both Montana schools have. I don't understand it, either, but it's out there. The funny thing is that of all of the All-Americans we've had at EWU (there have been many), I can only think of one that was a Prop 48 (Taiwan Jones). Similarly, of the 4 or 5 guys we currently have active on NFL rosters, only 1 of them fits into that category (Jones). Plenty of guys on CFL rosters that this is true of as well.

As you mentioned, we don't recruit many of those guys. And of those that we do, very few of them actually get their academic affairs in order enough to actually make the team. The assertion that we have a roster full of them is absolutely ridiculous. There may be one or two.

As for the drop-down transfer piece, that's laughable. I can think of two currently on the roster. Not that those are a bad thing, either, but Baldwin just didn't accept many of them and in fact turned many away. Like you said, Hauck made a living on transfers during his first stint...even accepting guys that were released under very dubious circumstances. Kavario Middleton comes to mind.

You are correct, we have a total of four transfers on the team. One came from D2 Western Oregon, one from FCS Grambling State - neither of whom are seeing much action- and two from FBS Navy and WSU... both of whom only went to their other school for one season. Neither of whom is a starter. We have no academic non-quals.

I could be wrong, but I believe Taiwan Jones came to Eastern on schollie from year one. If that's the case, he definitely wasn't a non-qual. Non-qual kids can't accept a schollie until they meet the Prop 48 criteria for D1 scholarship athletes.

I remember a few years ago reading from Montana fans that Vernon Adams was an LA gang member. That's about as ridiculous as it gets.

 

[LDopaPDX]

Coincidentally, is Dean Sise redshirting? I forgot he was even on the team. He certainly hasn't been on the field. He still shows up on the roster.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I read the same comment about the drop downs and non-qualifiers. I had honesty never heard that before, so I wouldn’t say that both Montana schools fans feel that way. Apparently that’s a thing in the um world, but I don’t think so with MSU fans.

http://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?p=641108#p641108

Agree to disagree.

 

[EWURanger]

I took a peek this weekend and was immediately reminded of the reason I don't post on there anymore. Total shit show. Apparently the only reason we've had success is because of "drop downs" and academic non-qualifiers. Who knew?

I know it's easier to make up excuses than have to accept mediocrity and irrelevance, but you'd think they'd internalize a little and try to figure out what they're doing wrong.

PSU...ouch.

Someone actually posted that our success is due to drop-down transfers and academic non-quals?

Do we have a single drop down or academic non-qual on our team? I can't think of a single one.

The especially comical element is that Hauck runs his team as Transfer U. And if we want to see academic non-quals, that's Idaho. We run a tight program. We take very few transfers and I can't even remember the last academic non-qual we signed. There was a DT a couple years back that washed out almost immediately and we had a California running back who did the same. But those were several seasons ago.

Yes, I have seen this for several years now that that's the perception many fans of both Montana schools have. I don't understand it, either, but it's out there. The funny thing is that of all of the All-Americans we've had at EWU (there have been many), I can only think of one that was a Prop 48 (Taiwan Jones). Similarly, of the 4 or 5 guys we currently have active on NFL rosters, only 1 of them fits into that category (Jones). Plenty of guys on CFL rosters that this is true of as well.

As you mentioned, we don't recruit many of those guys. And of those that we do, very few of them actually get their academic affairs in order enough to actually make the team. The assertion that we have a roster full of them is absolutely ridiculous. There may be one or two.

As for the drop-down transfer piece, that's laughable. I can think of two currently on the roster. Not that those are a bad thing, either, but Baldwin just didn't accept many of them and in fact turned many away. Like you said, Hauck made a living on transfers during his first stint...even accepting guys that were released under very dubious circumstances. Kavario Middleton comes to mind.

You are correct, we have a total of four transfers on the team. One came from D2 Western Oregon, one from FCS Grambling State - neither of whom are seeing much action- and two from FBS Navy and WSU... both of whom only went to their other school for one season. Neither of whom is a starter. We have no academic non-quals.

I could be wrong, but I believe Taiwan Jones came to Eastern on schollie from year one. If that's the case, he definitely wasn't a non-qual. Non-qual kids can't accept a schollie until they meet the Prop 48 criteria for D1 scholarship athletes.

I remember a few years ago reading from Montana fans that Vernon Adams was an LA gang member. That's about as ridiculous as it gets.

I thought TJ was a Prop 48, but you could be correct. I honestly cannot recall. TJ Lee was one, I do remember that. Great player.

I'm trying to think of all these Pac-12 transfers we've supposedly had. We had BLM and Kyle Padron who were both SMU transfers, and we had Andru Pulu transfer from Washington around 2012-2014 time frame. We also had Tevin McDonald transfer from UCLA to play safety for us around the same time. Note that both Pulu and McDonald were "second chance" guys Baldwin assumed risk on, so I am not knocking other schools for doing the same. I just think you can't base your entire recruiting strategy on it...and we clearly have not. Anybody else remember any other drop-down transfers we've had in recent years? I can't remember any others.

 

[EdubAlum]

http://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?p=641108#p641108

Agree to disagree.

"Today I guess I’m just thankful that I don’t live in Cheney, or have to list EWU on my resume. Football be damned."

Difference is, most of us leave Cheney after 4 years (okay, maybe 5 for me), and they will probably stay in Bozeman the rest of their lives (or go some place worse).

 

[Eagle Talon]

What’s an egriz? Kinda like an egret?

 

[clawman1]

What’s an egriz? Kinda like an egret?

More like a wEasel :lol: