EWU fans behavior towards SHSU

[sammamisheag]

If this is true, those fans who were involved should be banned from future games.
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[FormerEag]

If this is true, those fans who were involved should be banned from future games.
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I waited in that area to say hello to a couple of coaches and all I heard was one guy drunkenly say how he was waiting to heckle the Kats. I don't think I was there when the bulk of the players came out, but I didn't see much.

That said, having players and coaches walk through the parking lot is majorly bush league. There needs to be some separation. Another item in the long list of reasons to get some form of gateway going. Embarrassing.

 

[GoldenEagle]

If this is true, those fans who were involved should be banned from future games.
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I waited in that area to say hello to a couple of coaches and all I heard was one guy drunkenly say how he was waiting to heckle the Kats. I don't think I was there when the bulk of the players came out, but I didn't see much.

That said, having players and coaches walk through the parking lot is majorly bush league. There needs to be some separation. Another item in the long list of reasons to get some form of gateway going. Embarrassing.

When my wife and I walked through from the west ramp we did witnyess one jackass being held back by other EAGS fans. He was obviously drunk and making a fool of himself. We did not see any other taunting at the time.
The SHSU players we saw were all behaving good. We wished several of the SHSU players good luck for the rest of the season and they all said thank you.

Regardless of potential stadium expansion, the university has got to deal with this because it is a huge issue.

 

[EWU98]

If this is true, those fans who were involved should be banned from future games.
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I waited in that area to say hello to a couple of coaches and all I heard was one guy drunkenly say how he was waiting to heckle the Kats. I don't think I was there when the bulk of the players came out, but I didn't see much.

That said, having players and coaches walk through the parking lot is majorly bush league. There needs to be some separation. Another item in the long list of reasons to get some form of gateway going. Embarrassing.

When my wife and I walked through from the west ramp we did witnyess one jackass being held back by other EAGS fans. He was obviously drunk and making a fool of himself. We did not see any other taunting at the time.
The SHSU players we saw were all behaving good. We wished several of the SHSU players good luck for the rest of the season and they all said thank you.

Regardless of potential stadium expansion, the university has got to deal with this because it is a huge issue.

Unfortunately there was an arrest :dunce: . My two friends were the ones pulling the guy off and telling him just to leave, but being as drunk as he was he just wouldn't let it go. My one friend had to write a statement with Cheney's finest and I joked with him that now he is going to have to go to court and testify.

 

[56n92]

Not O.K. at all.
No kid on any team deserves that, especially from any fan.
Tension will be high when we play UM but I sincerely hope we treat those guys with respect. Hate the school, not the players.

 

[Rjones61]

This is definitely a problem. This was the first time I was in the parking lot when the athletes left the field. There was a well defined path for athletes to walk, but I can see it easily getting crossed by team too serious fans. Any ideas on how to correct this? I don't see any logical way to fence off the parking lot.

For now it is our responsibility as fans to keep this under control. Props to your friends EWU98 for stepping in. For everyone else, don't let yourself get caught up in bystander syndrome. Make sure to step up and tell them to shut the hell up and go home. We don't want any issues like this when UM rolls into town.

 

[HannahO]

We weren't at this game but in the five years that we went fairly regularly (2008-13) we saw a few minor problems with this arrangement. Mostly it was a result of the fans being held up for 20+ minutes while opposing players sauntered off the field and finally becoming impatient because they want to leave. Further, security routinely holds the crowd for the bulk of the team and coaches to leave the field but invariably some tarry so long that they end up coming through the crowd and that could present a problem. I do remember some tape of an embarassing fan after one of the games a couple of years ago who I believe arrested was roundly condemned by the rest of us.

This particular reporter does seem to have an axe to grind so I'm not sure how accurate his portrayal is of "fans" as if there were many involved but I would agree one is too many. I am curious regarding what SHSU player involvement occurred and whether Keeler will take any disciplinary action (given the thuggish behavior on the field, I find that doubtful). I would also be interested to know his proposed solution given the geography. Holding the crowd from exiting and herding the opposing team off immediately (as in within 5 minutes of the end of game) would be the only way and I don't think that's feasible or that the opposing team would even comply.

 

[Dozy]

We weren't at this game but in the five years that we went fairly regularly (2008-13) we saw a few minor problems with this arrangement. Mostly it was a result of the fans being held up for 20+ minutes while opposing players sauntered off the field and finally becoming impatient because they want to leave. Further, security routinely holds the crowd for the bulk of the team and coaches to leave the field but invariably some tarry so long that they end up coming through the crowd and that could present a problem. I do remember some tape of an embarassing fan after one of the games a couple of years ago who I believe arrested was roundly condemned by the rest of us.

This particular reporter does seem to have an axe to grind so I'm not sure how accurate his portrayal is of "fans" as if there were many involved but I would agree one is too many. I am curious regarding what SHSU player involvement occurred and whether Keeler will take any disciplinary action (given the thuggish behavior on the field, I find that doubtful). I would also be interested to know his proposed solution given the geography. Holding the crowd from exiting and herding the opposing team off immediately (as in within 5 minutes of the end of game) would be the only way and I don't think that's feasible or that the opposing team would even comply.

+1. Good post, Hannah!

 

[DefendtheRed]

I wasn't able to attend this game, but in the games I have been at the past few years I almost felt like there was TOO much security. Did anyone else see this altercation?

 

[EWURanger]

One drunker misfit who got arrested. Move along, nothing to see here.

 

[LDopaPDX]

This is why I hate posts like the "SHSU Conduct" post from earlier in the week. You never want to sit to high and mighty in your ivory tower because it only takes one incident for you to get thrown under the bus. There is always more than one lens to view a situation, and you never want to pass judgment on teams or fanbases for the behavior of a single person or small number of people.

I once saw a rival Big Sky team exit Roos Field after a close loss and one of their players dropped an expletive and racial slur against one of our fans who simply said "good game" as he walked by. The same team's fans were blabbering about how Eastern fans were low-class (et al) and I almost brought this up on the board.

But what for? I mean, off the field this player could be a great guy who just got caught up in a moment and said something stupid. Why tarnish his name? He's just a kid trying to win football games and get a diploma and doesn't need that kind of shit said about him on a message board.

For that reason, I think it is silly to make snap and overreaching assessments about behavior and conduct of another team or fanbase. Just remember, they probably have a lot of people who feel the same way about us.

 

[marceagfan5]

Maybe I'm the lone wolf here, but this isn't the first time this has happened before.

I've seen many times over the past few years, where fans have been close to crossing the line when a team exits the field. I'm all for a good nature boo when the team enters the field, but comments about players and getting in their face is crossing the line. I recall two years ago, we beat someone in the playoffs, can't remember exactly who, but our students were absolutely laying into the visitors after they walked off the field, losing and playing their last game of the year, many of them, their last game ever. Saw a youtube video of another encounter, similar to these, one time.

Something has to change, every fan base has their drunk, stupid fans, unfortunately ours have full access to the visiting team as they enter and exit the stadium. It happens to our team at places like Missoula and Bozeman, but its coming out of the tunnel, in Cheney, our fans can do it in the parking lot and its going to cause a big issue one of these days. Completely disappointed with the guy or guys who did this. They shouldn't be allowed back to a game...

 

[GoldenEagle]

Maybe I'm the lone wolf here, but this isn't the first time this has happened before.

I've seen many times over the past few years, where fans have been close to crossing the line when a team exits the field. I'm all for a good nature boo when the team enters the field, but comments about players and getting in their face is crossing the line. I recall two years ago, we beat someone in the playoffs, can't remember exactly who, but our students were absolutely laying into the visitors after they walked off the field, losing and playing their last game of the year, many of them, their last game ever. Saw a youtube video of another encounter, similar to these, one time.

Something has to change, every fan base has their drunk, stupid fans, unfortunately ours have full access to the visiting team as they enter and exit the stadium. It happens to our team at places like Missoula and Bozeman, but its coming out of the tunnel, in Cheney, our fans can do it in the parking lot and its going to cause a big issue one of these days. Completely disappointed with the guy or guys who did this. They shouldn't be allowed back to a game...

That was the Illinois State quarterfinal game and was totally bush league. I agree 100% with you marceagfan5. I think this is a big problem. Someone will go too far and people are going to get hurt.

 

[LDopaPDX]

This is where my hard-right libertarian side tells me that self-policing the situation is in order. A little booing or gesturing is part of the homefield advantage. There is no grey area between that and trying to pick a fight. If someone sees a "fan" acting like that, do us all a favor and shift his nose about 1/2" to the right. Once he feels that burning and choking sensation of having your nose relocated, he'll realize the err of his ways.

 

[GoldenEagle]

This is where my hard-right libertarian side tells me that self-policing the situation is in order. A little booing or gesturing is part of the homefield advantage. There is no grey area between that and trying to pick a fight. If someone sees a "fan" acting like that, do us all a favor and shift his nose about 1/2" to the right. Once he feels that burning and choking sensation of having your nose relocated, he'll realize the err of his ways.

LDopaPDX, I was thinking exactly the same thing last weekend regarding the jackass that was being restrained by the other fans. The problem is that some time a visiting player is going to be put in a position to defend himself and that is a bad situation. Last week a part of me wanted the people restraining that guy to let him go and get his arse handed to him. I'm just afraid that is going to happen.

 

[eaglesfootball]

I haven't ever seen anything like this but I don't enter or exit on that side of the stadium either. Possible this is being blown a little out of proportion?

 

[Obzerver]

I attribute this problem to no cannon/ROTC present at the game...preventative medicine. Have we ever had an instance of this type occurrence when the cannon was going off every few minutes?

 

[dudeitsaid]

Not to be preachy, and I'm sure I am probably odd and a bit of a prude, but as disappointed as I am about this negative reflection on EWU, I think this kind of behavior is a little more frequent than we want to admit at multiple sports venues, some with much stricter security than ours. Morons are going to be morons no matter what, but how does someone get that drunk at a 4 hour sporting event? I have been at many sporting events, and in one case, had a drunk fan puke on my child. As angering as that was, my thought was that this guy was going to leave the arena and drive. Provided unregulated drinking at an event that drives testosterone levels up is not wise, in my opinion. When I hear and see that many of the douches behaving like this are usually wasted, I think maybe eliminating the level of drinking that takes place is a starting point. I think by the end of the game, even the alcohol consumption that occurred during tailgating will have worn off.

Maybe EWU needs to have a better system for getting players to and from locker rooms (I think the Gateway project would help in this respect, hint, hint), but it seems like sporting events in general should figure out a better way to deal with excessive drinking for multiple reasons.

Ahh, but then there's the money thing. Guess this problem isn't going away.

 

[GoldenEagle]

Observer, I will bring you soda and hotdogs tomorrow. Where are you sitting?

 

[Vic E. Wallace]

To All,
Got some important information from someone in high standing with the University on Wednesday while at practice. He stated the individual that was involved was just one individual, and the individual that took him aside was a University Police from SHSU, he turn the individual into EWU University Police. I think the individual that wrote this article, could have been blowing this out of proportion. Could be wrong.
We left the game after the Team came over and sang the "Eagle Fight Song", I didn't notice anything going on from the stands, it was outside of the gate in the lot. The only thing I can suggest is having some personnel there holding rope, etc, while the team is going to their locker rooms, and after they all passed, remove the individuals. They cannot have to much there due to emergencies having to respond, could cause more harm than good. AMEN". BTW today while at practice, heard there was 58 tickets left. Great News. Another Sell Out. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :clap: :clap: :clap: Could see a lot 2 & 3s playing tomorrow. We will not let down. Go Eagles!!!!Vic Wallace