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First Fall Scrimmage
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ewueagle2010
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I was at the scrimmage and from what I saw, the QB situation is settled and GG is the man. It really wasn't even close.
Rafter_Reese
Active member
Yep. I think Hennessey is also a great QB and we are lucky to have him, but I too think Gage will be the man to start the season. Almost every drive I watched him lead in the Spring was a LONG drive that led to points. We have the ability to strike down field but I think we will see a lot more ball-controlled drives with Gage at the helm. I will be the first to say that I did not think he was going to beat out Reilly but he proved me wrong. I think a lot of us really underestimated what GG brings to the table. The Cougs better be ready for him, and even if they are, it might not matter. He has poise, he's accurate, and he can beat you several different ways. It's not our offense I'm worried about this year. From what I've seen so far, I think there's been a lot of positives with the O-line. Maybe we don't need to be as concerned about our O-line youth as most of us are. I have a suspicion that at least one of these freshman RB's are going to get some significant playing time. Gage seems to be very happy with the O-line in general so far. All his comments have been positive.ewueagle2010 said:
go eags!
I was at the scrimmage too, Reilly is great, but I would wager @ 90% certainty that Gage is our guy...he's got the swagger, arm, and speed needed to lead the team.
Our 2ndary is terrible, there was a man open nearly every play, the QB's didn't have to work terribly hard to squeeze in the balls, the receivers were constantly finding gaps in coverage.
I was not impressed with the run game, despite that stats saying otherwise. If i had to guess, this is due to the O lines youth, I suspect they will gel. The flip side to that is that the DL seems very competent, at least against our young OL. The DL did a good job of always keeping their hands up and tipping balls.
The linebackers did their jobs, not sure what else to say, I missed the INT, but I think it was one of the LB's that came up with it.
2ndary allowed for open receivers play after play, expect lots of high scoring affairs as we go into this year.
Hold on for another roller coaster season of EWU football!
O/U at WSU should be ~ 110
Our 2ndary is terrible, there was a man open nearly every play, the QB's didn't have to work terribly hard to squeeze in the balls, the receivers were constantly finding gaps in coverage.
I was not impressed with the run game, despite that stats saying otherwise. If i had to guess, this is due to the O lines youth, I suspect they will gel. The flip side to that is that the DL seems very competent, at least against our young OL. The DL did a good job of always keeping their hands up and tipping balls.
The linebackers did their jobs, not sure what else to say, I missed the INT, but I think it was one of the LB's that came up with it.
2ndary allowed for open receivers play after play, expect lots of high scoring affairs as we go into this year.
Hold on for another roller coaster season of EWU football!
O/U at WSU should be ~ 110
tomq04 said:I was at the scrimmage too, Reilly is great, but I would wager @ 90% certainty that Gage is our guy...he's got the swagger, arm, and speed needed to lead the team.
Our 2ndary is terrible, there was a man open nearly every play, the QB's didn't have to work terribly hard to squeeze in the balls, the receivers were constantly finding gaps in coverage.
I was not impressed with the run game, despite that stats saying otherwise. If i had to guess, this is due to the O lines youth, I suspect they will gel. The flip side to that is that the DL seems very competent, at least against our young OL. The DL did a good job of always keeping their hands up and tipping balls.
The linebackers did their jobs, not sure what else to say, I missed the INT, but I think it was one of the LB's that came up with it.
2ndary allowed for open receivers play after play, expect lots of high scoring affairs as we go into this year.
Hold on for another roller coaster season of EWU football!
O/U at WSU should be ~ 110
It comes as no shock that the safeties aren't very good; only one guy from that unit was gamer last year, and he graduated. But are we that bad at CB? On paper, that group doesn't look too bad. Wasn't Dre Dorton recruited as a corner, supposedly undersized but with crazy speed? Now I'm hearing he's at WR?
ewueagle2010
Active member
LDopaPDX said:tomq04 said:I was at the scrimmage too, Reilly is great, but I would wager @ 90% certainty that Gage is our guy...he's got the swagger, arm, and speed needed to lead the team.
Our 2ndary is terrible, there was a man open nearly every play, the QB's didn't have to work terribly hard to squeeze in the balls, the receivers were constantly finding gaps in coverage.
I was not impressed with the run game, despite that stats saying otherwise. If i had to guess, this is due to the O lines youth, I suspect they will gel. The flip side to that is that the DL seems very competent, at least against our young OL. The DL did a good job of always keeping their hands up and tipping balls.
The linebackers did their jobs, not sure what else to say, I missed the INT, but I think it was one of the LB's that came up with it.
2ndary allowed for open receivers play after play, expect lots of high scoring affairs as we go into this year.
Hold on for another roller coaster season of EWU football!
O/U at WSU should be ~ 110
It comes as no shock that the safeties aren't very good; only one guy from that unit was gamer last year, and he graduated. But are we that bad at CB? On paper, that group doesn't look too bad. Wasn't Dre Dorton recruited as a corner, supposedly undersized but with crazy speed? Now I'm hearing he's at WR?
In my opinion, it's the safeties that are the elephant in the room. Corners seemed to hold their own and it took a couple really nice passes from Gage to fit them in for touchdowns. Hopefully the safeties can figure it out, but they appear to be the biggest weakness on the team.
marceagfan5
Active member
I think we looked good on Saturday. Gage looks like #1 going into WSU and I'd be shocked if he wasn't, he looked really good Saturday. I like the new offense, the QB has a lot more freedom, should be a great year for the offense.
I think our D line will be much improved and our LB's will be good. Questions for sure in the secondary, WSU will be a real tough test. We will see..
After seeing most of the scrimmage on Sat, I do think we are primed to have a really good year if we can survive September.
I think our D line will be much improved and our LB's will be good. Questions for sure in the secondary, WSU will be a real tough test. We will see..
After seeing most of the scrimmage on Sat, I do think we are primed to have a really good year if we can survive September.
ewueagle2010 said:LDopaPDX said:tomq04 said:I was at the scrimmage too, Reilly is great, but I would wager @ 90% certainty that Gage is our guy...he's got the swagger, arm, and speed needed to lead the team.
Our 2ndary is terrible, there was a man open nearly every play, the QB's didn't have to work terribly hard to squeeze in the balls, the receivers were constantly finding gaps in coverage.
I was not impressed with the run game, despite that stats saying otherwise. If i had to guess, this is due to the O lines youth, I suspect they will gel. The flip side to that is that the DL seems very competent, at least against our young OL. The DL did a good job of always keeping their hands up and tipping balls.
The linebackers did their jobs, not sure what else to say, I missed the INT, but I think it was one of the LB's that came up with it.
2ndary allowed for open receivers play after play, expect lots of high scoring affairs as we go into this year.
Hold on for another roller coaster season of EWU football!
O/U at WSU should be ~ 110
It comes as no shock that the safeties aren't very good; only one guy from that unit was gamer last year, and he graduated. But are we that bad at CB? On paper, that group doesn't look too bad. Wasn't Dre Dorton recruited as a corner, supposedly undersized but with crazy speed? Now I'm hearing he's at WR?
In my opinion, it's the safeties that are the elephant in the room. Corners seemed to hold their own and it took a couple really nice passes from Gage to fit them in for touchdowns. Hopefully the safeties can figure it out, but they appear to be the biggest weakness on the team.
Who does it appear will start at safety? Will Hoffman get any time? Losing that big, tall kid from SoCal who washed out on grades really hurts now.
ewueagle2010
Active member
LDopaPDX said:ewueagle2010 said:LDopaPDX said:tomq04 said:I was at the scrimmage too, Reilly is great, but I would wager @ 90% certainty that Gage is our guy...he's got the swagger, arm, and speed needed to lead the team.
Our 2ndary is terrible, there was a man open nearly every play, the QB's didn't have to work terribly hard to squeeze in the balls, the receivers were constantly finding gaps in coverage.
I was not impressed with the run game, despite that stats saying otherwise. If i had to guess, this is due to the O lines youth, I suspect they will gel. The flip side to that is that the DL seems very competent, at least against our young OL. The DL did a good job of always keeping their hands up and tipping balls.
The linebackers did their jobs, not sure what else to say, I missed the INT, but I think it was one of the LB's that came up with it.
2ndary allowed for open receivers play after play, expect lots of high scoring affairs as we go into this year.
Hold on for another roller coaster season of EWU football!
O/U at WSU should be ~ 110
It comes as no shock that the safeties aren't very good; only one guy from that unit was gamer last year, and he graduated. But are we that bad at CB? On paper, that group doesn't look too bad. Wasn't Dre Dorton recruited as a corner, supposedly undersized but with crazy speed? Now I'm hearing he's at WR?
In my opinion, it's the safeties that are the elephant in the room. Corners seemed to hold their own and it took a couple really nice passes from Gage to fit them in for touchdowns. Hopefully the safeties can figure it out, but they appear to be the biggest weakness on the team.
Who does it appear will start at safety? Will Hoffman get any time? Losing that big, tall kid from SoCal who washed out on grades really hurts now.
Zack Bruce will certainly be a leading candidate.
EdubU10
Active member
tomq04 said:
In other words, business as usual for EWU :roll:
For the more educated football minds, what does EWU need to do to improve the secondary? Is it scheme; still learning the 4-2-5?
Is it coaching; do we need to bring in new blood? Is it the guys we are recruiting? Lack of defensive stars at this level?
Not looking forward to doing this after every failed 3rd down stop again
marceagfan5
Active member
EdubU10 said:tomq04 said:
In other words, business as usual for EWU :roll:
For the more educated football minds, what does EWU need to do to improve the secondary? Is it scheme; still learning the 4-2-5?
Is it coaching; do we need to bring in new blood? Is it the guys we are recruiting? Lack of defensive stars at this level?
Not looking forward to doing this after every failed 3rd down stop again
Bring more pressure...
Either our D Line needs to get pressure consistently, or we have to Blitz more. We haven't done much of either the past couple of years...This will help our secondary a ton and it will get us off the field...
LDopaPDX said:ewueagle2010 said:LDopaPDX said:tomq04 said:I was at the scrimmage too, Reilly is great, but I would wager @ 90% certainty that Gage is our guy...he's got the swagger, arm, and speed needed to lead the team.
Our 2ndary is terrible, there was a man open nearly every play, the QB's didn't have to work terribly hard to squeeze in the balls, the receivers were constantly finding gaps in coverage.
I was not impressed with the run game, despite that stats saying otherwise. If i had to guess, this is due to the O lines youth, I suspect they will gel. The flip side to that is that the DL seems very competent, at least against our young OL. The DL did a good job of always keeping their hands up and tipping balls.
The linebackers did their jobs, not sure what else to say, I missed the INT, but I think it was one of the LB's that came up with it.
2ndary allowed for open receivers play after play, expect lots of high scoring affairs as we go into this year.
Hold on for another roller coaster season of EWU football!
O/U at WSU should be ~ 110
It comes as no shock that the safeties aren't very good; only one guy from that unit was gamer last year, and he graduated. But are we that bad at CB? On paper, that group doesn't look too bad. Wasn't Dre Dorton recruited as a corner, supposedly undersized but with crazy speed? Now I'm hearing he's at WR?
In my opinion, it's the safeties that are the elephant in the room. Corners seemed to hold their own and it took a couple really nice passes from Gage to fit them in for touchdowns. Hopefully the safeties can figure it out, but they appear to be the biggest weakness on the team.
Who does it appear will start at safety? Will Hoffman get any time? Losing that big, tall kid from SoCal who washed out on grades really hurts now.
I think it will be Zach Bruce and Dehonta Hayes.
Rafter_Reese
Active member
Amen!!! I've stated it twice, and I'll state it again....WE NEED TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE and find ways to pressure opposing QB's. And I agree with someone else that stated we need to pick and choose our spots to be aggressive on defense. More blitz schemes and disguised coverages please. ANYTHING! But the last thing we can do is sit back in something conservative and let teams pick us apart. I hate "bend but don't break" because all that ever happens is break. It starts with stopping the run. After that, I want to see more of our guys trying to hammer the ball out to force fumbles. QB pressure will help with INT's. I refuse to believe that the talent isn't there on defense. It's the little things on defense (which are actually the big things) that are going to add up.marceagfan5 said:EdubU10 said:tomq04 said:
In other words, business as usual for EWU :roll:
For the more educated football minds, what does EWU need to do to improve the secondary? Is it scheme; still learning the 4-2-5?
Is it coaching; do we need to bring in new blood? Is it the guys we are recruiting? Lack of defensive stars at this level?
Not looking forward to doing this after every failed 3rd down stop again
Bring more pressure...
Either our D Line needs to get pressure consistently, or we have to Blitz more. We haven't done much of either the past couple of years...This will help our secondary a ton and it will get us off the field...
go eags!
I don't understand why we are SO hyper aggressive on Offensive, but unwilling to be aggressive on Defense. I've yelled plenty of times at the tv wondering where is the extra man blitzing? Anything to increase pressure and force the ball out quick, instead of letting QBs as good as ours pick their (wide-open) spots
ewueagle2010
Active member
LDopaPDX said:
Maybe they should dip into that large group of receivers and grab a potential safety or two.
The problem with the defense is not player related, it is scheme related. A lot of these guys were All State players so I have a hard time believing this is player related. From what I watched in the Spring, when they played aggressive they were dominating the offense but when they switched back to passive, the offense picked them apart.
ewueagle2010 said:
Exactly. Both Webster kids should be playing on defense (neither looked good handling the ball last year). You could probably find another couple that should be moved to D. I thought Dorton was recruited as a corner, and now it appears he's going to be a receiver as well.
We need to get more speed on defense, plain and simple. It would be one thing if we were super big hitters on D, but that obviously isn't the case. I just don't see the aforementioned safeties as being equipped to be impact players at this level. I guess we'll find out for sure on September 3rd.
Rafter_Reese
Active member
I could see Stu Stiles knocking the snot out of opposing WR's. He just seems like a hardcore baller. Baldwin seems to think he could play any position and do well. Heard him say that on the news the other night. He was a high school QB and a pretty good one at that. Kind of like what I'm seeing out of him at WR though. Also, could Jake Hoffman be an answer at safety. I know he played corner as a freshman but I really like what I've seen out of him lately when he's been in there. I don't think we have a horrible scheme but the guys that are in it need to know what they are doing and all be on the same page.LDopaPDX said:
go eags!
