Football & Politics

[EWU98]

Just saw this in the Spokesman. I actually think this is a great bill by our legislature. It will definitely curb some spending by the bigger schools. Obviously I know in the past we have struggled financially, but maybe this will keep those two bigger schools from going crazy with the cash.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/jan/11/proposed-bill-would-put-legislature-in-charge-of-i/

 

[LDopaPDX]

Just saw this in the Spokesman. I actually think this is a great bill by our legislature. It will definitely curb some spending by the bigger schools. Obviously I know in the past we have struggled financially, but maybe this will keep those two bigger schools from going crazy with the cash.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/jan/11/proposed-bill-would-put-legislature-in-charge-of-i/

Interesting.... Not sure what to say about it. The article doesn't really define what "insolvent" means as it relates to the rule. Most ADs offset losses by contributing money from the general activities fund. Eastern does this. Does that make the program insolvent? Obviously not, but if you expect the AD to only operate off their own revenues, you're creating a monster and putting Washington athletics at a tremendous disadvantage over peer institutions. Remember, on average, only about 20 programs actually generate a post-operational profit, and even then, most do that with university money. College sports is not a moneymaking activity.

In order to do this, I think a line should be drawn as to how much deficit can be accrued over a three year period. Maybe $15mm or something like that, in which case it would only apply to UW and WSU and keep them from absolutely blowing up their budgets with athletics expenses. In that scenario, I'd support it.

 

[clawman1]

So out of the blue my neighbors daughter gets a call from WSU athletics asking her if she would be interested in the womens rowing team. She didn't even know there was such a thing. She met and they offered her a full ride in exchange for being on the rowing team. They told her they noticed her body type and it is what they were looking for. No tryout, no testing, just a free ride because of her body shape!
Out of control spending, sounds like it to me!

 

[Atomic Eagle]

Seems like this would mostly effect UW and WSU. We're not running in the red to the extent they are if at all. Especially WSU.

Another thing I would like them to consider is mandating that either UW or WSU play us every year. Keep that money in state. I believe they do something similar in Iowa between Iowa, Iowa State, and UNI.

 

[clawman1]

Seems like this would mostly effect UW and WSU. We're not running in the red to the extent they are if at all. Especially WSU.

Another thing I would like them to consider is mandating that either UW or WSU play us every year. Keep that money in state. I believe they do something similar in Iowa between Iowa, Iowa State, and UNI.

In all fairness how would you feel about it if the legislature required we play Central?

 

[eaglesfootball]

Seems like this would mostly effect UW and WSU. We're not running in the red to the extent they are if at all. Especially WSU.

Another thing I would like them to consider is mandating that either UW or WSU play us every year. Keep that money in state. I believe they do something similar in Iowa between Iowa, Iowa State, and UNI.

In all fairness how would you feel about it if the legislature required we play Central?

i would not like that at all but one thing to mention is that FBS schools can count 1 FCS game towards bowl eligibility whereas for us playing DIIs reflect poorly during playoff selection. Also the guarantees that DIIs get to play FCS teams is a much smaller amount and less of a factor to athletic budgets. i wouldn't mind playing either WSU or UW every year but it could have the effect of not being able to play other P5 schools in other conferences or even in the pac-12. I loved where we played OSU, UW, UO, and WSU consecutively in a 4 year stretch.

 

[EWURanger]

Another thing I would like them to consider is mandating that either UW or WSU play us every year. Keep that money in state. I believe they do something similar in Iowa between Iowa, Iowa State, and UNI.

I believe Arizona has something similar where NAU plays Arizona or Arizona State every other year.

I'm pretty sure a piece of legislation requiring UW and WSU to play us would meet considerable opposition, especially considering how competitive we've been against them...one or two plays away from beating WSU in 2012 and UW in 2014 and then obviously the big win against WSU this year.

 

[luckyintheorder]

To paraphrase Baumgartner; "I'm with the government and here to help"... Y'all need to get your arms around this yahoo. Sounds like this is designed to "level the playing field". Next step for UW and WSU, booster money to pay for shortfalls in facilities or buying out coaches will need government approval and a percentage will flow to smaller universities or other Title IX boondoggles. I say, the road to hell is paved with "good" intentions.

Exact quote from article:

Said Baumgartner in the news release Wednesday, “This bill gives our state’s universities a three-year runway from today to get their budgets balanced, and if they can’t do it, my committee will help do it for them.”

Your call people, you live there.

 

[clawman1]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

 

[FormerEag]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

Yeah like police, emergency services, highway construction, labor regulation, food safety, higher education, farm subsidies, and children's healthcare! Get the guberment outta there! #MAGA

 

[kalm]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

Yeah like police, emergency services, highway construction, labor regulation, food safety, higher education, farm subsidies, and children's healthcare! Get the guberment outta there! #MAGA

:lol:

I don't know how a limited government conservative can look at this any way other than being a positive.

Government checking the solvency of one of its own agencies? Oh the horror!

Long live anarcho-capitalism...I guess... :?

 

[EWU98]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

Yeah like police, emergency services, highway construction, labor regulation, food safety, higher education, farm subsidies, and children's healthcare! Get the guberment outta there! #MAGA

:lol:

I don't know how a limited government conservative can look at this any way other than being a positive.

Government checking the solvency of one of its own agencies? Oh the horror!

Long live anarcho-capitalism...I guess... :?

:+1:

 

[Obzerver]

 

[ewueagfan]

Another thing I would like them to consider is mandating that either UW or WSU play us every year. Keep that money in state. I believe they do something similar in Iowa between Iowa, Iowa State, and UNI.

I believe Arizona has something similar where NAU plays Arizona or Arizona State every other year.

I'd love to see something like that.

 

[luckyintheorder]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

Yeah like police, emergency services, highway construction, labor regulation, food safety, higher education, farm subsidies, and children's healthcare! Get the guberment outta there! #MAGA

LeftyEag, most of these are provided locally. As an example, the gov't in "higher" ed is a disaster in costs rising meteorically, while the value of a degree has dropped expeditiously. Yes, there are always exceptions; but Healthcare and Higher Ed are too very good examples of where the government has not been a benefit to the majority. There are plenty of socialist or worse countries to move too. There is a reason the US and our constitution is the shining light to the world, why people want to make it the same as the lowest common denominator countries is beyond me. Maybe they should try our experiment, instead of the other way round.

 

[Eagledawg]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

Yeah like police, emergency services, highway construction, labor regulation, food safety, higher education, farm subsidies, and children's healthcare! Get the guberment outta there! #MAGA

LeftyEag, most of these are provided locally. As an example, the gov't in "higher" ed is a disaster in costs rising meteorically, while the value of a degree has dropped expeditiously. Yes, there are always exceptions; but Healthcare and Higher Ed are too very good examples of where the government has not been a benefit to the majority. There are plenty of socialist or worse countries to move too. There is a reason the US and our constitution is the shining light to the world, why people want to make it the same as the lowest common denominator countries is beyond me. Maybe they should try our experiment, instead of the other way round.

Just remember "if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor". I can think of 20 TRILLION reasons to reduce the size of the federal government.

 

[FormerEag]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

Yeah like police, emergency services, highway construction, labor regulation, food safety, higher education, farm subsidies, and children's healthcare! Get the guberment outta there! #MAGA

LeftyEag, most of these are provided locally. As an example, the gov't in "higher" ed is a disaster in costs rising meteorically, while the value of a degree has dropped expeditiously. Yes, there are always exceptions; but Healthcare and Higher Ed are too very good examples of where the government has not been a benefit to the majority. There are plenty of socialist or worse countries to move too. There is a reason the US and our constitution is the shining light to the world, why people want to make it the same as the lowest common denominator countries is beyond me. Maybe they should try our experiment, instead of the other way round.

Okay a couple things. This whole issue is about the STATE legislature regulating a STATE institution. You were the first person to bring up the federal government.

Moreover, I'm not going to go blow for blow with you about federal domestic policy. It would get ugly fast.

Maybe I shouldn't have been sarcastic. I don't want this place to turn into a political shouting match. That's what egrizz is most of the time and nobody wants that.

I'll draw down, as I firmly believe that our Eagle blood is thicker than water and I care more about EWU football than debating politics online. In fact, I care more about EWU football than I do about most things- as I suspect you do.

Please defer any more typo-ridled diatribes about the evils of socialism and MAGAing to Facebook comment threads on Blaze posts.

Yours in Eag,

LeftyEag

 

[DaEagles]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

Yeah like police, emergency services, highway construction, labor regulation, food safety, higher education, farm subsidies, and children's healthcare! Get the guberment outta there! #MAGA

LeftyEag, most of these are provided locally. As an example, the gov't in "higher" ed is a disaster in costs rising meteorically, while the value of a degree has dropped expeditiously. Yes, there are always exceptions; but Healthcare and Higher Ed are too very good examples of where the government has not been a benefit to the majority. There are plenty of socialist or worse countries to move too. There is a reason the US and our constitution is the shining light to the world, why people want to make it the same as the lowest common denominator countries is beyond me. Maybe they should try our experiment, instead of the other way round.

There are a multitude of reasons for why healthcare costs have been rising so rapidly.

 

[kalm]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

Yeah like police, emergency services, highway construction, labor regulation, food safety, higher education, farm subsidies, and children's healthcare! Get the guberment outta there! #MAGA

LeftyEag, most of these are provided locally. As an example, the gov't in "higher" ed is a disaster in costs rising meteorically, while the value of a degree has dropped expeditiously. Yes, there are always exceptions; but Healthcare and Higher Ed are too very good examples of where the government has not been a benefit to the majority. There are plenty of socialist or worse countries to move too. There is a reason the US and our constitution is the shining light to the world, why people want to make it the same as the lowest common denominator countries is beyond me. Maybe they should try our experiment, instead of the other way round.

Yes, most ARE provided locally. So eliminate the FBI, FEMA, USDA, and Federal Highway system all together?

I know a guy who travels all over the world inspecting meat processing facilities for the USDA so that the imported shrimp you get from Thailand in the name of free trade and free markets is safe to eat. Because lord knows that's cheaper and less socialist than raising or harvesting our own shrimp.

:rofl:

 

[luckyintheorder]

The less the gov't is involved in anything the better.

Yeah like police, emergency services, highway construction, labor regulation, food safety, higher education, farm subsidies, and children's healthcare! Get the guberment outta there! #MAGA

LeftyEag, most of these are provided locally. As an example, the gov't in "higher" ed is a disaster in costs rising meteorically, while the value of a degree has dropped expeditiously. Yes, there are always exceptions; but Healthcare and Higher Ed are too very good examples of where the government has not been a benefit to the majority. There are plenty of socialist or worse countries to move too. There is a reason the US and our constitution is the shining light to the world, why people want to make it the same as the lowest common denominator countries is beyond me. Maybe they should try our experiment, instead of the other way round.

Okay a couple things. This whole issue is about the STATE legislature regulating a STATE institution. You were the first person to bring up the federal government.

Moreover, I'm not going to go blow for blow with you about federal domestic policy. It would get ugly fast.

Maybe I shouldn't have been sarcastic. I don't want this place to turn into a political shouting match. That's what egrizz is most of the time and nobody wants that.

I'll draw down, as I firmly believe that our Eagle blood is thicker than water and I care more about EWU football than debating politics online. In fact, I care more about EWU football than I do about most things- as I suspect you do.

Please defer any more typo-ridled diatribes about the evils of socialism and MAGAing to Facebook comment threads on Blaze posts.

Yours in Eag,

LeftyEag

At least you have a sense of humor. Would recommend you stay off the Alternet, MotherJones, Buzzfeed or Slate sites for a while as well. The state of the US for my children is #1, followed closely by the state of EWU football. Both are in flux for sure. Make 2017 great again.