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Hornets @ Lumberjacks ... in-game thread ??

Dixon stuffed for a 2 yard loss. The injured Hornet walked off according to the announcers. 3rd and 7. Stangel overthrows the corner route. Let's see if NAU takes 3 to avoid a shut out. They do. Good move, nothing more embarrassing than a shut out on Homecoming. He makes it.

40-3 Hornets.

Fleming is still in. Croxdale pick up 11. Hornets running the clock.

Carmazzi fumbles on a sneak and NAU returns it for a TD. 40-10 about 2 mins left.

40-10 Final. Hornets drain the clock. Well played Hornets! Great effort, Sperbeck had this team ready and it showed! Great job all around.
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Thanks, SDHornet. I appreciated your updates throughout the game. Work got busy there through the 3rd and early 4th quarter but it seems I haven't missed all that much.

I knew Sac State was a good team. I knew they had improved significantly. I knew they were gonna be tough but this was impressive. I'm a believer now. Best of luck to the rest of your season, Sac State fans.
 
Was I the only one who didn't fully believe we were going to win until the final seconds ticked off? : ) Great win Hornets.
 
Thanks guys.

mt jack, thanks and best of luck to the Jacks the rest of the way as well. I hope NAU can avoid a season ending collapse. NAU is good; I think they are still hanging their heads from the late loss in Missoula. Hopefully Sours can have this team regain its momentum.

Rat I felt the same way up until the Hornets drilled those FG. They stayed tough the whole game and didn’t have any let downs. It was great execution by the offense and the defense was rock solid.
 
Great job Hornets! This team has shown guts and and has never given up on itself, even when faced with disappointment. We are far better than than a 4-4 record would indicate. I hope that they run the table, win the last three games and claim the credit they deserve!
 
wow...didn't see that one coming. i thought the hornets had a chance, but not a blow-out! those close losses really hurt now, but, that's a huge, huge win for the program.
 
As I watched the replay of the game earlier today, what stood out to me was how much faster and agile our DL was against the NAU OL. That was the difference in getting to Stangel and Herrick. I think the ability for us to put the pressure on both NAU quarterbacks cannot be understated. What also was encouraging was seeing Fleming with the confidence that if the pocket broke down he was able to make something happen. Maybe that's attributed to the lack of athletic ability on NAU's LB corps. Either way, the offense was heartened I think that they do have the talent to make the plays when they needed to, and that, if anything, those three loses told them we can play with anyone in the country.

In the grand scheme of things for this year, yes, those losses might be just enough to keep us out of the playoffs, but you never know with an expanded field to 20. Its very possible the Big Sky could get 4 teams into the field. One game at a time and now we prepare for PSU, though it sounded like their "Pistol" qb got injured and might not play next week. Kavanaugh the backup is more of a run-and-shoot qb. Either way, our LB's and DB's will have to be on their toes next week.
 
i think with the expanded field, the playoffs might have to dip down to get teams that don't have 7 D1 wins. either that, or they will have to grab some team that beefed up against lousy teams. run the table to finish 7-4 and its possible. if one of the top 3 teams in the BS stumbles (montana state over idaho state in OT?, montana losing to weber) and sac ends up in the top 3, you have a good argument. either that or the BS gets screwed with only 2 bids.

if southern utah beats EWU to finish 7-4 (6 D1 wins), they should go. they shouldn't be penalized by their 2 FBS losses, and for scheduling Texas St., NAU and EWU. that's a pretty solid team. you'd think they go over Poly, even if Poly ends up 8-3. but...who knows.
 
DrMike said:
i think with the expanded field, the playoffs might have to dip down to get teams that don't have 7 D1 wins. either that, or they will have to grab some team that beefed up against lousy teams. run the table to finish 7-4 and its possible. if one of the top 3 teams in the BS stumbles (montana state over idaho state in OT?, montana losing to weber) and sac ends up in the top 3, you have a good argument. either that or the BS gets screwed with only 2 bids.

if southern utah beats EWU to finish 7-4 (6 D1 wins), they should go. they shouldn't be penalized by their 2 FBS losses, and for scheduling Texas St., NAU and EWU. that's a pretty solid team. you'd think they go over Poly, even if Poly ends up 8-3. but...who knows.
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My question to you is, are SUU's wins over UND and USD counted as D1 wins? I thought those two schools were still counted as D2 for this year (next year they become D1)?
 
I still think the BSC will get 3 bids if the top 3 teams have 7 D-1 wins. SUU has a solid team, but the fact of the matter is the BSC has a much more competitive schedule than the GWFC and even if they win out and are head to head with a BSC team that finishes with 6 D-1 wins, I have to think the BSC team would get the nod. Ultimately, the lack of 7 D-1 wins is what will keep SUU out of the playoffs, they scheduled themselves out of the playoffs and they have no one to blame but themselves. The same can be said about Sac State. That D-2 game against WOU is what will keep us out of the playoffs if we run the table. They way Sac State has played this season there should not be a D2 team on the schedule. If anything, schedule a weak FCs team like USDiego or one of the numerous weak GWFC teams (who are soon to flood the BSC in 2012).
 
SactoHornetAlum said:
DrMike said:
i think with the expanded field, the playoffs might have to dip down to get teams that don't have 7 D1 wins. either that, or they will have to grab some team that beefed up against lousy teams. run the table to finish 7-4 and its possible. if one of the top 3 teams in the BS stumbles (montana state over idaho state in OT?, montana losing to weber) and sac ends up in the top 3, you have a good argument. either that or the BS gets screwed with only 2 bids.

if southern utah beats EWU to finish 7-4 (6 D1 wins), they should go. they shouldn't be penalized by their 2 FBS losses, and for scheduling Texas St., NAU and EWU. that's a pretty solid team. you'd think they go over Poly, even if Poly ends up 8-3. but...who knows.
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My question to you is, are SUU's wins over UND and USD counted as D1 wins? I thought those two schools were still counted as D2 for this year (next year they become D1)?
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i believe the answer to the Dakota question is 'yes'; Wins over Davis during our transition counted for teams like Poly, EWU. i think it has something to do with the amount of D1 teams they schedule -> once they go to a nearly full D1 schedule, they count. Wins over UND by FBS teams count in their count, and I'm pretty sure the Griz wouldn't have scheduled them AND western state if neither counted.

SUU had 2 FBS teams and 1 D2 team; that makes qualifying really tough. challanges of scheduling 7 OOC games.
 
DrMike said:
SactoHornetAlum said:
DrMike said:
i think with the expanded field, the playoffs might have to dip down to get teams that don't have 7 D1 wins. either that, or they will have to grab some team that beefed up against lousy teams. run the table to finish 7-4 and its possible. if one of the top 3 teams in the BS stumbles (montana state over idaho state in OT?, montana losing to weber) and sac ends up in the top 3, you have a good argument. either that or the BS gets screwed with only 2 bids.

if southern utah beats EWU to finish 7-4 (6 D1 wins), they should go. they shouldn't be penalized by their 2 FBS losses, and for scheduling Texas St., NAU and EWU. that's a pretty solid team. you'd think they go over Poly, even if Poly ends up 8-3. but...who knows.
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My question to you is, are SUU's wins over UND and USD counted as D1 wins? I thought those two schools were still counted as D2 for this year (next year they become D1)?
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i believe the answer to the Dakota question is 'yes'; Wins over Davis during our transition counted for teams like Poly, EWU. i think it has something to do with the amount of D1 teams they schedule -> once they go to a nearly full D1 schedule, they count. Wins over UND by FBS teams count in their count, and I'm pretty sure the Griz wouldn't have scheduled them AND western state if neither counted.

SUU had 2 FBS teams and 1 D2 team; that makes qualifying really tough. challanges of scheduling 7 OOC games.
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FCS wins against USD and UND began counting last year. FBS wins against USD and UND only began counting this year. Last year, Texas Tech scheduled us, but the game didn't count toward Tech's bowl eligibility.
 
you guys realize the dark horse here is Weber State? all the sudden they are in 4th ahead of Sac, with games against EWU and Montana State coming. If they somehow sweep, they would have 7 D1 wins and might get a bid based on past success. Personally, I don't see that happening....but..personally, the entire Big Sky weekend was pretty surprising!
 
Weber already lost to EWU. They are at MSU, then at NAU, then at Texas Tech. They win 2 of 3 and they have 7 D1 wins and probably get an at large bid…essentially what they did last season.
 
I bet ya that Weber is ahead of the Hornets in the coaches' poll this morning, which shows that they just don't pay that much attention to detail. they must have really improved from earlier in the year, because they didn't look like a playoff-caliber team. either that or they got Montana at the right time, and they end up going 0-3 the rest of the way (i was thinking 0-4 before last weekend).

should be interesting to see how they vote.
 
DrMike said:
I bet ya that Weber is ahead of the Hornets in the coaches' poll this morning, which shows that they just don't pay that much attention to detail. they must have really improved from earlier in the year, because they didn't look like a playoff-caliber team. either that or they got Montana at the right time, and they end up going 0-3 the rest of the way (i was thinking 0-4 before last weekend).

should be interesting to see how they vote.
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They also have Northern Arizona who we rolled on Saturday above us. Apparently too many of the "coaches" voting in this poll spent their playing days not wearing a helmet!
 
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