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martymoose

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Looks like the Big Sky most likely just got a little stronger:

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VikThunderous said:
Wow. I knew this was coming but to see it happen is still surprising. Too bad football isn't coming too.

I got a feeling Idaho's football team will join eventually.
 
Only a matter of time before UI joins the Big Sky in football.

In order to survive Independence, you need top notch tradition/fan support, consistent winning, and lots of money. The Vandals are 0-fer.......won't be long before they join the Sky in full.
 
Either that or the WAC somehow manages to merge with the Big Sky so that we all go up to FBS level. But that's not likely, as Idaho will probably drop down instead.
 
So how can Idaho being independent work on paper?

1) Must have five home games, of which four must be FBS teams. What FBS teams want to travel there? Surely they'd schedule someone like Idaho State every year or work a home and home with a FCS school. Even if Idaho were to sell out every game, their revenue on games is limited due to the seating capacity of their dome.

2) Aren't they losing bowl and TV revenue from the WAC? I suspect that the 'Vandal Television Network' isn't exactly going to pan out.

3) They'll need to schedule multiple body bag games each year that will result in losses, but needed revenue to get money into the program. They'll need high payouts, which can only be paid by big programs that Idaho cannot compete with (ala LSU this year). With the home and home scenario as mentioned above with an FCS, their road record will probably be 1-5 or 2-4 at best on a yearly basis. With the multiple FCS teams that they'll probably have to play, a bowl bid is never going to happen.

I think they should have just put their tail between their legs and limped back to the Big Sky in all sports...
 
I think Idaho would bust a nut to do everything they could to prevent slippage and keep their football program in the FBS. If you look at their rivalry with Boise State, you can see why.

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Why would they ever want to revert back to the big sky? Go backwards and not forwards? It's all D-I when it comes to anything but football. Football is the true basis of dividing programs above the line of demarcation or below it. Why would they want to go below it again now that they've risen above it?

Pokey’s last game – Boise State vs. Idaho 1996

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Boise State Bronco Alum, Sean Sandoval, wrote (DAV = "Dog Ass Vandals"]:

I learned about pride as I watched a terminally ill coach ... shed his wheel chair and coach what was to be the last game of his life. I learned about conviction, your word, and heart. I remember asking myself, why in the hell is Pokey out here? He could have been a million other places. With family, back home in Missoula, playing his favorite game of golf, or pulling another stunt like riding a horse down Broadway to promote the Broncos. But on this day he chose to finish the job with energy and all the effort he had left. Pokey was truly coaching his ass off until the very end and I commend the man for that. I also got a healthy dose of what respect meant.

[But] [w]ith a 4th quarter 55-14 lead on the Broncos, the DAV had commanding control of this game but chose to run a fake punt which consequently went 50+ yards for a touchdown. Nothing could be more humiliating and ethically wrong at this point.

Everything I was ever taught about respect was completely thrown out the window as I couldn’t believe the lack of it. Shortly after the special teams score…The DAV players ran into Pokey on the sideline during an onside kick. Seriously!? Think about it. Up by 40+ points, 4th quarter, opposing coach has less than a month to live, and they run an on-side kick to get the ball back in hopes of scoring again. Where was the class? Where was the empathy? They had already won and there was absolutely no need to rub it in.

As the clock finally ran out 00:00:00, no hands would shake but DAV players would take one final shot at the Broncos as they commenced to dancing on the 50 yard line. Burned images of Vandal coaches (Chris Tormey and crew) smoking cigars will forever remain. I’ve shared this story as a reminder during this DAV game week. A reminder of those life lessons and a time of reflection for Pokey.

Pokey’s Prophecy:

As a freshmen in 1996, I watched Pokey’s battle with cancer and all the turmoil that followed. Pokey made many promises to our team about the future and glory of Boise State. He always talked about the winning traditions and our obligation to carry the torch of those before us.

Pokey promised all of us in 1996 that if we carried on the Boise blue collar work ethic and became a “team”. We could accomplish anything. This held true before my time and still holds true today. Boise does one thing: Win.

Eerily enough Pokey had specific goals for our incoming class of 1996. He said by the time we graduated our team would have:

o Two conference championships by the time we graduated (2000)
o Two bowl rings by the time we graduated (2000)
o Two 10 win seasons
o Ranked in the Division 1A FBS top 25

All of which came true with the exception of a top 25 ranking (I think we finished 32nd). Many people are not aware of this particular moment however; in 1999 before taking the field for our first Humanitarian Bowl, the seniors huddled up one last time and said:

“This one’s for Pokey!”

We were not to be denied that day as we earned Boise State’s first Division I, FBS bowl game.The day was December 30th 1999, the anniversary of Pokey’s death.

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Idaho would become Eastern Washington's travel partners for basketball. Since UC-Davis and Cal Poly play basketball in the Big West, Sac State would likely become our travel partner.

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