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The PAC/MWC Dominoes Begin to Fall

As a follower but not an alumnus, the changes to bring in Bibby and Shaq are risks that have produced solid marketing results.

I said it back then, if Sac had made another run in the playoff would have been a boost to the effort.

The coach hire for football was fantastic.

UCONN needs games every year. And as football only, CUSA could be an option.

Pac-12 or bust got people excited, but maybe not being so brash could have kept the MW in play. Maybe they still are?? could be an option for the market, and football only is easier to pull off. I feel Sac would have to take a less share in either conference to start.

If stadium plan was revealed and lead donors named, more would be on board.
 
Hornet25 said:
Hit piece. Probably paid for by Fresno State.

Also, the quieter Dr. Wood is, the more likely he is being advised by an attorney.
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Anyone who does an "in depth" article/video on our situation and doesn't mention the increased student fees immediately loses credibility on the topic. I don't think people realize how much of a game changer having additional guaranteed "athletics revenue" coming into the athletic budget every year truly is.
 
StockonLB said:
As a follower but not an alumnus, the changes to bring in Bibby and Shaq are risks that have produced solid marketing results.

I said it back then, if Sac had made another run in the playoff would have been a boost to the effort.

The coach hire for football was fantastic.

UCONN needs games every year. And as football only, CUSA could be an option.

Pac-12 or bust got people excited, but maybe not being so brash could have kept the MW in play. Maybe they still are?? could be an option for the market, and football only is easier to pull off. I feel Sac would have to take a less share in either conference to start.

If stadium plan was revealed and lead donors named, more would be on board.
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Good post. It was an obvious marketing ploy from the jump as the normie west coast college sports fans recognize the Pac12 brand without knowing/understanding that the Pac-12 brand in '26 will be nothing like it was in the past. Additionally, the Pac push marketing campaign gave everyone, most importantly Hornet admin, a gage on alumni/fan/business/political/area resident interest in Pac-12/FBS status.

Yes the goal is to get to FBS, but FBS conferences only add from the FCS as a survival tactic. Dr. Wood needs to keep pushing on the items within his control (facilities, operational budgets, alumni/fan engagement, etc) regardless of if a lawfare path to FBS becomes a viable alternative.
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
They post the topics 10 days before the hearing.

Fres Not has actual cracks and structural issues and they had their county tax proposal to fix it voted down by the locals.
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The FresNot crack is concrete on top of dirt so it’s more cosmetic in my opinion. I think the community knows that stadium is old / worn but that community isn’t the economic region compared to the great city of Sacramento.

We are fortunate to have such great city / community / county support to help us grow.
 
StockonLB said:
As a follower but not an alumnus, the changes to bring in Bibby and Shaq are risks that have produced solid marketing results.

I said it back then, if Sac had made another run in the playoff would have been a boost to the effort.

The coach hire for football was fantastic.

UCONN needs games every year. And as football only, CUSA could be an option.

Pac-12 or bust got people excited, but maybe not being so brash could have kept the MW in play. Maybe they still are?? could be an option for the market, and football only is easier to pull off. I feel Sac would have to take a less share in either conference to start.

If stadium plan was revealed and lead donors named, more would be on board.
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Agree… we could have made a few moves more politically correct but overall I also see that the ability to raise that NIL saw more value in a bit higher profile name in the PAC12 brand.

Last season FB did a face plant because the coaches failed to prepare them properly,

I’m hopeful we can have an incredible FB / BB seasons that both drive into playoffs and impress everybody,

We need full stadium this season and the well needs to get loud and fun to build some great momentum!

If we win an FCS National championship and make BB NCAA or NIT run we will be in good shape to prove we are FBS ready and a solid new Big West program that could also compete in either PAC / MWC / ACC West if FSU / Clemson leave and they expand west to support Cal/Ford?

Question- Programs in PAC / MWC signed grant of rights unless they went to P4.

IF Florida St & Clemson leave ACC would they still be considered a P4 or another G6/7 then? If G6 or 7 then SAC ST with our FB Stadium breaking ground then we should be a potential.

Lot of pressure on our FB & MBB programs to deliver results after the big $ investment.

I’m excited and also nervous because this team must GEL ASAP. Every big Sky team will go 100% all out and try to beat us badly if they can! Jealousy is a strong motivator for our old Big Sky friends we are leaving behind.
 
This morning, a new domino fell that might open the door for us to FBS football in 2026... La Tech to the Sun Belt to replace Texas State. https://www.espn.com/college-sports...na-tech-returns-sun-belt-conference-14th-team

Sac State and Conference USA flirted a bit but the impact to student athlete travel was too great. However, since then, Sac State smartly parked all Oly sports in the Big West. I can guarantee there are phone calls going on right now about Sac State jumping to Conference USA as FB only member to keep them at 12 and maintain their conference championship format. Conference USA would be a foot in the door to FBS and allow the Hornets to move to the PAC or MWC in a few years time.

The Hornets in Conference USA would be immediate title contenders IMO and could quickly build a mid/high major resume, especially if the facilities follow.

Would you join conference USA in '26 for FB only if they offer was on the table? I'd say hell yes.
 
I'd be surprised if CUSA adds anyone with La Tach's departure. CUSA can still have a conference championship with 10 members (UTEP also departs in '26). If CUSA were to add from FCS, I think Tarleton would be their go to. Not buying the McNeese rumors unless the CUSA has a big hard on for another Louisiana member.

Our only way as CUSA FB membership would be to pay travel subsidies, forgo the little TV money CUSA FB gets, and have a short timeline of membership to facilitate our transition to FBS. We'll see if anything comes of this latest move.
 
Green Laser said:
That would make sense. The guy on the Big Mountain Channel has been beating the drum for Tarleton to join the Mountain West.
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Tarleton also just opened a $100M+ new basketball arena. And has a modern stadium that was just expanded. McNeece has no chance, but they have better facilities than Sac.
 
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Hornet25 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1945258232458498492

Would gladly take an invite from any conference, but man, these two are a mess. Chose to try to destroy each other rather than merge.
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This will be interesting. Pac-12 is relying on the removal/minimization of the poaching fees to help fund the MW defectors exit fees. The more money WSU & OSU can retain, the bigger step ahead of the MW defectors they will be able to maintain as they look for a P4/A4 bid in the near future (likely won't come).

On the other side of the battle, the MW rebuild is depending on those poaching fees to pay off UNLV & Air Force in their special deal that kept them from bailing. It will be fun seeing how this high stakes legal battle plays out.
 
SDHornet said:
This will be interesting. Pac-12 is relying on the removal/minimization of the poaching fees to help fund the MW defectors exit fees. The more money WSU & OSU can retain, the bigger step ahead of the MW defectors they will be able to maintain as they look for a P4/A4 bid in the near future (likely won't come).

On the other side of the battle, the MW rebuild is depending on those poaching fees to pay off UNLV & Air Force in their special deal that kept them from bailing. It will be fun seeing how this high stakes legal battle plays out.
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If the PAC can get out of enough fees to pry AF and UNLV away, all hell breaks loose for the MW. Both conferences are in danger.

I have my popcorn ready.
 
Come on guys- You aren't going FBS.. Why are you doing this to yourselves? Trust me.. I was in a similar headspace in like 2008 with Cal Poly talking big and showing a triple deck stadium design (also done I think by Populous because the rendering looks very similar to the ones you guys were shown) you guys paid 318K for literal renderings!! OUCH!

The stadium isn't there, and the money isn't there.. not to mention how much it would cost after you "move up".. doesn't seem like there's an actual plan here really.. I mean, there's a lot of talk, but is there a plan?
 
I love Sac State as much as the next guy as a Cal Poly fan, but this is getting sad at this point and you should have just stayed in the Big Sky and your lane until you build the new stadium.

"Dr. Wood" seems suspect and brother Joshua Wood creating his multiple businesses right after the Sac-12 move and "advisory firms" after the push is also bizarre:

Where is the money? Where are the details? Pac-12.. really? Come on guys, even the Mountain West wants nothing to do with you . Stop it.. get help!. Again, I thought Cal Poly could go FBS like 17 years ago and had rose colored glasses/blinders on like you guys do now and it never happened..
 
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