"Insanity is...

[bearuncle]

...doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein

This quote is from Coach Hill's postgame interview following the game in Omaha: ""I've given this speech, and I've given this speech, and I've given this speech." This was said in regards to his frustration in motivating the guys during the season so far.

He also said: "What's frustrating is, when as a coach you have to make a decision to not start guys, or trick guys into showing you that they can play," said Hill. "We shouldn't have these type of issues with the maturity that we have on this team. We have to have these guys buy into the system, the same system that has been successful in the past, and buy into each other. Tim had a great night tonight, but hasn't shown up in the past and it's not just Tim, I could go down the list with guys that haven't come to play on a consistent basis."


A couple of thoughts: #1 Why not try encouraging a little? These guys play hard and are likely growing tired of 'the speech' that he admits to giving over and over.#2 Believe in them, tell them they are important to the success of the team.#3 Lead by example, show them how to succeed as young men and basketball players.

This article had me thinking, 'what are the numbers?' (remember the Billy Ball thread from last season) I looked at points + rebounds + assists - turnovers divided by minutes played to come up with a single numeric value that expressed production by minute on the floor. Who do you think is on top of that list? Again. Looking at the top 7 guys (based on total minutes played):
1. Tim Huskisson, .771 'good things' per minute
2. Dominique Lee, .768
3. Cam Michaels, .561
4. Tevin Svihovec, .548
5. Cody McDavis, .535
6. Corey Spence, .450
7. Jordan Wilson, .412

And so on. Actually, a couple of the guys that don't play a lot of minutes have good numbers and might deserve a bit more time (Bender). But the above list is the top 7 guys on the floor.

Basically, his postgame comments consistently throw kids under the bus. And if doing that over and over isn't giving the desired results, I reference the Einstein quote. Maybe he should try something different in regards to motivating the team.

I'm sure everyone is frustrated. College and basketball should be a lot of fun. Doesn't seem like the team or the coach is having much fun at this point in the season. A few wins could change that. Here's hoping that starts this weekend. Go Bears!

 

[bearsradio]

Your methodology doesn't match B.J.'s complaint. Your math is all about the offensive end of the floor & his frustration is with defense, as laid out in each of the last 3 games. "Offensive sensitive" is the phrase, specifically, because when the offense isn't playing well, the defense suffers more. Each of the losses this season has seen the defense suffer when shots aren't falling at the other end of the floor, and that's what he's trying to get them past.

 

[bearsradio]

Just looked up the latest numbers at KenPom.com. His simplified numbers have our adjusted offense at 65th & adjusted defense at 340th. That number is why B.J.'s frustrated.

 

[Beardown]

Your methodology doesn't match B.J.'s complaint. Your math is all about the offensive end of the floor & his frustration is with defense, as laid out in each of the last 3 games. "Offensive sensitive" is the phrase, specifically, because when the offense isn't playing well, the defense suffers more. Each of the losses this season has seen the defense suffer when shots aren't falling at the other end of the floor, and that's what he's trying to get them past.

I agree. This team is frustrating to watch. They simply won't play defense. Conference play is coming up and we better show we can play defense, or we will finish bottom of the conference...guaranteed.

 

[bearuncle]

Your methodology doesn't match B.J.'s complaint. Your math is all about the offensive end of the floor & his frustration is with defense, as laid out in each of the last 3 games. "Offensive sensitive" is the phrase, specifically, because when the offense isn't playing well, the defense suffers more. Each of the losses this season has seen the defense suffer when shots aren't falling at the other end of the floor, and that's what he's trying to get them past.

I understand your post. If you can give me some individual defensive stats, I will be happy to break them down for you. My numbers are obviously offensive, it's all I have. I also get that defense is the other half of the game. As far as "Offensive sensative" The vast majority of teams loose when they shoot poorly. Obviously, there are teams that are the exception to the rule. It's just not the Bears.

What I'm trying to show is that Tim H. has been the most productive kid on the floor for the past two years. And it appears to me that Coach Hills methodology in Motivating certain kids might not be working when you have to give the speech again and again.

The point of the post wasn't to break down X's and O's. It was to point out my perception of coach Hills leadership. If it's not broke don't fix it. If you want change Repeating the same speech over and over likely won't cause change to happen. That's Insanity

Go Bears

 

[bearsradio]

When he's been able to stay on the floor. 6 games with 3 or more fouls, 2 foul outs this year. Add in only 5 rebounds in the last 3 games, and the production stats you post don't hold up.

And, there's this: you don't know how B.J. has tried to motivate any of the players, other than what he's said. There's a lot more that's taking place behind the scenes, but when players don't react to any of them, then you have the frustration from coaches.

 

[bearuncle]

When he's been able to stay on the floor. 6 games with 3 or more fouls, 2 foul outs this year. Add in only 5 rebounds in the last 3 games, and the production stats you post don't hold up.

And, there's this: you don't know how B.J. has tried to motivate any of the players, other than what he's said. There's a lot more that's taking place behind the scenes, but when players don't react to any of them, then you have the frustration from coaches.

It's the number crunch them yourself. It's funny how you take the bears voice seriously never in my life have I seen a radio guy come to the defense of coaches like you do. Do you have inside info regarding his behavior and methods? Love to hear them. If you don't, how do you know.? Have you ever gone to a practice, been in the meeting with the squad. My guess is there is a lot that goes on behind the seen based on his behavior on the sidelines. Ever heard you get more flies with honey.

Not sure what you mean by he said. I haven't talked to anyone about this topic. I've Just observer in person, read and listen to what's out there in print and audio/video.

Again, I'm just pointing out my perception of his frustration. I will say I have enjoyed the banter. Is that Insanity???

Go Bears

 

[bearsradio]

"Have you ever gone to a practice, been in the meeting with the squad?"

Yes & yes. In fact, on the road I follow the same itinerary the team does. That's on top of the practices I attend in Greeley. I don't attend scouting sessions or shoot around on home game days, because I'm dealing with my other with duties.

My point about what's been said is that coaches use multiple approaches to try to get guys to play. It's all about psychology, but sometimes every tack comes up short. Fans seem to believe that what they see & hear from coaches is the only method they use each day, practices, games & meetings. A great example is what I witnessed before climbing on the bus after the game as an assistant was talking with two seniors, with a much different tone than what I'm sure the locker room witnessed. Good cop, bad cop is always a part of the psychological approaches staffs use.

As for defending coaches so much, it's because I do see their attempts to get players to play up to their capabilities. Think about this: coaches are putting their futures in the hands of 18-22 year olds, who may our may not respond to any of their methods for any number of reasons. Usually comments like BJ made the other night come when other methods haven't worked. It's usually a last ditch thing.

You would find most in my business--college & pro--don't criticize the coaches they work with, because of our roles. Now, if I was hosting a talk show, there would be allowances for that, but climbing on a bus and telling a coach how he f'd up a game is a fireable offense (actually happened with an announcer I know. Others & I cite it when taking to young broadcasters as a great example of how not to act).

 

[bearuncle]

"Have you ever gone to a practice, been in the meeting with the squad?"

Yes & yes. In fact, on the road I follow the same itinerary the team does. That's on top of the practices I attend in Greeley. I don't attend scouting sessions or shoot around on home game days, because I'm dealing with my other with duties.

My point about what's been said is that coaches use multiple approaches to try to get guys to play. It's all about psychology, but sometimes every tack comes up short. Fans seem to believe that what they see & hear from coaches is the only method they use each day, practices, games & meetings. A great example is what I witnessed before climbing on the bus after the game as an assistant was talking with two seniors, with a much different tone than what I'm sure the locker room witnessed. Good cop, bad cop is always a part of the psychological approaches staffs use.

As for defending coaches so much, it's because I do see their attempts to get players to play up to their capabilities. Think about this: coaches are putting their futures in the hands of 18-22 year olds, who may our may not respond to any of their methods for any number of reasons. Usually comments like BJ made the other night come when other methods haven't worked. It's usually a last ditch thing.

You would find most in my business--college & pro--don't criticize the coaches they work with, because of our roles. Now, if I was hosting a talk show, there would be allowances for that, but climbing on a bus and telling a coach how he f'd up a game is a fireable offense (actually happened with an announcer I know. Others & I cite it when taking to young broadcasters as a great example of how not to act).

I certainly understand you shouldn't criticize in your situation. Your just quick to defend or try to explain coaches points of view which Might be slightly skewed as could be mine.

My guess is you don't see most of the behavior. Regarding psychology my advice is to get out of kids heads. Make the experience fun and the rest will take care of itself.

Regarding putting your job security in young kids hands it's why coaches don't get fired for only winning 50% of the time unlike most career paths.

In the spirit of the season I wish you a Merry Christmas

 

[bearuncle]

Good for you Tim Huskisson great game tonight!!!

Thank you BJ Hill please just stay out of his head and let him play :clap: :clap:

Go Bears

 

[gobears2010]

I don't think there's much of an argument that Tim is a good player one of the team's best offensive weapons. The problem is he plays the same position as Dominique Lee, who is one of the few guys on the team that plays defense and about the only one that rebounds so he has to be on the floor as much as possible. Hopefully Tim can keep up the offensive production from last night and take the minutes of Dwight Smith, who appears to no longer be with the team.

 

[Beardown]

I don't think there's much of an argument that Tim is a good player one of the team's best offensive weapons. The problem is he plays the same position as Dominique Lee, who is one of the few guys on the team that plays defense and about the only one that rebounds so he has to be on the floor as much as possible. Hopefully Tim can keep up the offensive production from last night and take the minutes of Dwight Smith, who appears to no longer be with the team.

Seriously? What happened to Smith?

 

[larryteeling]

Smith is academically ineligible

 

[bearuncle]

I don't think there's much of an argument that Tim is a good player one of the team's best offensive weapons. The problem is he plays the same position as Dominique Lee, who is one of the few guys on the team that plays defense and about the only one that rebounds so he has to be on the floor as much as possible. Hopefully Tim can keep up the offensive production from last night and take the minutes of Dwight Smith, who appears to no longer be with the team.

I know by now many might be tired of my opinion. So for the moment, I won't give it.

A question for anyone, who would you guys/gals start for the Bears one game before Conference play begins???

Go Bears

 

[beardevil39]

Ok, MY STARTING 5: Lee, Huskisson, Svihovic, Wilson, McDavis and then intersperse Spence, Michael, Johnson, Verhagen, & Bender into the mix.

 

[bearuncle]

Ok, MY STARTING 5: Lee, Huskisson, Svihovic, Wilson, McDavis and then intersperse Spence, Michael, Johnson, Verhagen, & Bender into the mix.

I like your thinking. I'm slightly torn on the 2 between Wilson and Michaels. I can see the potential in Michaels. Maybe he would fit nicely as that scorer off the bench.

I would love to see what Bender could do in that role. He sure seems to be a great shooter. I would love to see him in a more competitive situation.

Go Bears

 

[bearsradio]

Thank you BJ Hill please just stay out of his head and let him play...

I would suggest that B.J. calling him out lit a fire that hadn't been there this season. But, there's more to the story that I can't share publicly.

 

[bearuncle]

Thank you BJ Hill please just stay out of his head and let him play...

I would suggest that B.J. calling him out lit a fire that hadn't been there this season. But, there's more to the story that I can't share publicly.

I'm sure there is more to the story, always is... Tim is a gentle soul if it's taken Hill 4 years to figure that out he needs to get out of the psychiatry business and just coach.

Some kids respond well to tough love other require a different approach. My bet is Tim would have been one of UNC's career best if Hill would of handled him differently these past 4 years.

Go Bears

 

[bearuncle]

When he's been able to stay on the floor. 6 games with 3 or more fouls, 2 foul outs this year. Add in only 5 rebounds in the last 3 games, and the production stats you post don't hold up.

And, there's this: you don't know how B.J. has tried to motivate any of the players, other than what he's said. There's a lot more that's taking place behind the scenes, but when players don't react to any of them, then you have the frustration from coaches.

I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing the gifts Tim bring to the Bears. It looks like his last three games were good enough to be named Big Sky player of the week :thumb:

 

[beardevil39]

Good job Tim Huskisson !!! Expecting more of the same tonight. Go Bears !!