Is this the week for a WAC invite?

[Siouxfan]

From different reports, seems as if the WAC is hemming and hawing on who to invite.

Both the Honolulu and Fresno papers are lamenting the status of the WAC and are hoping UH and Fresno can leave. Would appear both want a Texas school - like North Texas - but I can't understand why UNT would ever move.

If the WAC doesn't make a move this week, it would be practically suicidal, considering that La Tech's departure is imminent (Louisiana has major financial issues and the WAC's payout will decrease substantially after this year.)

Since Sac St is really the only western school that has an administration backing an FBS move, I think there is about a 70% chance Sac gets in the Wac.

If Fresno St and San Jose St have to invite another school, who would they chose: Sac St or UC-Davis? Chose a brother (Sac State) or a warring cousin (Davis). It isn't really in FSU or SJSU's interest to invite a UC counterpart.

 

[SJHornet]

This will be the best chance Sac has to be invited to play with the big boys for quite a while. I also feel that it is a good way to preserve our football program as the FCS isn't offering the students, alumni or local residents much interest in the team, (though that opinion is certainly debatable).

I agree with souixfan about our chances being about 70%. We are already a WAC school for baseball and gymnastics, we are within a few hours drive for Fresno, San Jose and Nevada, we offer the proper compliment of sports, most of our facilities meet requirements, and, well, we are just one bad ass school. Our drawbacks are obvious however, and will be judged harshly, ...the nest and our lack of "prestige". Despite our pros outweighing our cons I'm still scared we won't get an invite because current members feel they are above a rinky-dink FCS school.

Pins and needles, pins and needles

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

I am cautiously guarded. Would love to see us grow as it will pay dividends for decades to come.

Not sure about this week, La Tech seems to be tee'd up to go CUSA when UCF and Memphis go to the Big East.
http://www.clickorlando.com/knights/23927913/detail.html
If the bulldogs leave the WAC, which they should, it might add urgency and get Sac invited. If an invite did show up wouldnt the regents have to approve it? The next regent meeting is July 13th.

We have a bigger budget than two WAC schools and are on par with three more. Academically we are with SJSU and Fresno, so all the signs point in the right direction, but no real admission by Gonzo or WAC that this is something that will happen. I mean if La Tech can get in, why not Sac State?

If your gonna be a destination campus, better have the things that make it a destination choice.

 

[superhornet]

I still say no. But I do have to admit that from a WAC perspective, Sac makes 1000% more sense than the Manure Pile.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

I still say know. But I do have to admit that from a WAC perspective, Sac makes 1000% more sense than the Manure Pile.

fixed it for you... :lol:

 

[Siouxfan]

I am cautiously guarded. Would love to see us grow as it will pay dividends for decades to come.

Not sure about this week, La Tech seems to be tee'd up to go CUSA when UCF and Memphis go to the Big East.
http://www.clickorlando.com/knights/23927913/detail.html
If the bulldogs leave the WAC, which they should, it might add urgency and get Sac invited. If an invite did show up wouldnt the regents have to approve it? The next regent meeting is July 13th.

We have a bigger budget than two WAC schools and are on par with three more. Academically we are with SJSU and Fresno, so all the signs point in the right direction, but no real admission by Gonzo or WAC that this is something that will happen. I mean if La Tech can get in, why not Sac State?

If your gonna be a destination campus, better have the things that make it a destination choice.

The UCF and Memphis thing to the Big East might be premature, but there is no question La Tech is serious about moving on. If they don't get in CUSA, within two years they might even take an invitation to the MAC - as least for football only and then join another non-football conference for other sports. Louisiana is having a more serious education budget crisis (talk is about closing a number of schools), and Tech in the WAC isn't looked upon too kindly by the legislature. Without Boise, the WAC revenues dispersed to Tech are going to drop, so Tech has to either cut costs and part of that is a conference change.

Sac to the WAC definitely not without risk (for both SSU and the WAC), but something has to be done to galvanize the Sacramento community around Sac State and the WAC needs a far-west based team almost to start the FBS transition as soon as possible.

 

[aggiemba]

I still say no. But I do have to admit that from a WAC perspective, Sac makes 1000% more sense than the Manure Pile.

Go ahead and take another hit on the bong dude!

 

[jj2319]

I still say no. But I do have to admit that from a WAC perspective, Sac makes 1000% more sense than the Manure Pile.

Go ahead and take another hit on the bong dude!

I enjoy the "outsider" posts when based in fact or logic, but yours are never either. This constant venom spew has to be blocked.

GCM - can you kick this clown off?

 

[SDHornet]

I still say no. But I do have to admit that from a WAC perspective, Sac makes 1000% more sense than the Manure Pile.

Go ahead and take another hit on the bong dude!

I enjoy the "outsider" posts when based in fact or logic, but yours are never either. This constant venom spew has to be blocked.

GCM - can you kick this clown off?

Don't kick her off or block her posts. 1) that's un-American, 2) I think it's hilarious that this asshat gives ucd such bad representation (any ucd posters with any logical arguments are welcome) and finally 3) don't feed the trolls. :lol:

Keep it coming aggiemba, keep making yourself look like an idiot. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Jealousy is the best form of flattery. If there is any single event that will prevent the faggies from getting an invite, it is this.....the WAC doesn't want to burden themselves with this negative press and the farm extension administration doesn't want the bad press from announcing an 'upgrade' that will cost millions of valuable research dollars. This will take an atypical five years to work it's way through the courts. The new UCFE Egghead won't want to bring this highly controversial topic to the forefront of their new fiefdom.

UC Farm Extension athletes file grievance following elimination of sports
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By Laurel Rosenhall
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Published: Monday, Jun. 21, 2010 - 4:50 pm
Last Modified: Monday, Jun. 21, 2010 - 6:26 pm
About 100 UC Farm Extension student athletes have filed a grievance against the university, alleging its decision to eliminate four sports was arbitrary and violates the contracts the students have with the university.

The five-page grievance asks UC Farm Extension to permanently reinstate the teams it plans to cut: women's crew; men's swimming; men's wrestling; and men's indoor track. It asks the university to reinstate the teams for at least one year while the decision is reviewed.

UC Farm Extension officials announced in April that the four teams would be cut for the coming school year, citing ongoing budget problems as the reason.

Trolls usually bore of their antics, if she is banned she will just appear again as aggie-egghead, aggie-i like the smell of manure or aggie-all our women have brands.



Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/06/21/2838736/uc-davis-atheletes-file-grievance.html#ixzz0raLCUTXN

 

[SactoHornetAlum]

Now why would we want to kick out our little 'ol nag aggiemba ;-)

 

[Kadeezy]

I also vote to keep that dungpile tool around. It makes me feel better about my Sac State MBA everytime I see what he writes.

 

[superhornet]

While I can't speak for the reasoning of my mods, I'll say that I have not banned aggiemba because there's nothing in his/her posts that would constitute a personal attack. So far, it's all been school bias on steroids. Until there's a personal attack, I will allow him/her to stay.

Of course, if the mods see anything before I do, I'll back any action of theirs to the hilt. They've proven themselves as more than capable time and time again. Even when their personal opinion just happens to differ from mine. This is NOT a dictatorship, folks. You're free to have your opinion, even if it's criminally stupid. Just don't let it rise to the level of personal attack.

 

[Siouxfan]

Sorry, Sac fans, hope I haven't misled you. I really expected the WAC to make a move by the end of this week, so theoretically the new team could be part of WAC non-football play in 2011. The FBS moratorium would prevent any new team from starting the FCS-FBS transition until 2012, so perhaps thats the real reason. But still, a transitioning FCS team needs a lot of time just to prepare. Benson still has stated a new team will be chosen by summer's end, but the longer this goes on, the more likely some other school (like Montana) gets chosen. The Big East doesn't appear to be taking CUSA teams this summer, would might have created an opening for La Tech, which would have forced the WAC's hand.

If a team isn't chosen by July 1st, Sac's chances are probably more like 50% by summer's end. If a team still isn't added by then, Sac's chances probably drop to 30% or less - as for example Montana would then have a new president.

 

[SactoHornetAlum]

Sorry, Sac fans, hope I haven't misled you. I really expected the WAC to make a move by the end of this week, so theoretically the new team could be part of WAC non-football play in 2011. The FBS moratorium would prevent any new team from starting the FCS-FBS transition until 2012, so perhaps thats the real reason. But still, a transitioning FCS team needs a lot of time just to prepare. Benson still has stated a new team will be chosen by summer's end, but the longer this goes on, the more likely some other school (like Montana) gets chosen. The Big East doesn't appear to be taking CUSA teams this summer, would might have created an opening for La Tech, which would have forced the WAC's hand.

If a team isn't chosen by July 1st, Sac's chances are probably more like 50% by summer's end. If a team still isn't added by then, Sac's chances probably drop to 30% or less - as for example Montana would then have a new president.

Nothing about the moratorium says that a school can't be invited and announced before the moratorium ends, just that they can't play at that level beforehand. And actually, I can't see how if a school chose to move up, that legally a moratorium could prevent them. To me, the whole "moratorium" thing is phony.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Thanks Siouxfan, I think the real reason is we are holding out for the MWC.
I mean, 20th media market is huge and perhaps we should hold out until a better suitor comes along.

What are the chances something has already been done and Gonzalez/Wanless have to wait until the July 13th regents meeting. Benson mention on radio yesterday in Fresno that Sac State is a contenter and specifically noted Sac State when asked about Cali schools.

As I stated when all this hoopla started, don't hold our breath.

 

[Siouxfan]

Nothing about the moratorium says that a school can't be invited and announced before the moratorium ends, just that they can't play at that level beforehand. And actually, I can't see how if a school chose to move up, that legally a moratorium could prevent them. To me, the whole "moratorium" thing is phony.

I believe the date the FBS moratorium ends is Aug 11, 2011. But the date that a team must apply to be in FBS transition is June 1. If the NCAA was real strict with their rules, it would mean an FBS transition can't start until 2012. The whole moratorium thing is just a power play by the large schools to keep others out of their exclusive club.

 

[Siouxfan]

Thanks Siouxfan, I think the real reason is we are holding out for the MWC.
I mean, 20th media market is huge and perhaps we should hold out until a better suitor comes along.

What are the chances something has already been done and Gonzalez/Wanless have to wait until the July 13th regents meeting. Benson mention on radio yesterday in Fresno that Sac State is a contenter and specifically noted Sac State when asked about Cali schools.

As I stated when all this hoopla started, don't hold our breath.

Supposedly Benson also stated "Montana isn't in the WAC footprint". Can't see how Texas State or UTSA are in that footprint either then. Sac State still has to be the near-term favorite, but you never know what University Presidents want. It's not Benson's decision.

 

[SJHornet]

I imagine our invite really hangs on what happens with LA Tech. If Tech is able to leave by the end of summer the WAC will be forced to invite at least an 8th school. I believe FBS conferences are required to field a minimum of 8 schools, (if someone knows more about this please elaborate, it may not be the case and a figment of my imagination). If they are down to seven schools with no expansion on the horizon the NCAA may allow them to break a few rules to fulfill the compliment of schools they would need to operate as a 1-A conference. And we still have a week till the window closes. Still time for surprises.

If nothing else, and we don't get an invite, we'll have time to work on our facility situation and position ourselves for a better chance in 2012.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

I don't see why the MWC is far fetched. Look at SDSU, they are in the same academic mold as Sac State. The MWC took SDSU solely on their media market. If the $$$ is driving this bus why limit this process to the WAC?

If we are building a new stadium and arena why shoot low?

Are we prepared to go FBS w/o a conference invite or did the WAC opportunity jump us into looking to upgrade? UM and UNT are doing feasibility studies, have we done something similar?

Anyone hear how we are progressing with funding for the two obviously required facilities? That has to be the biggest hangup, if they were already under construction it would be more compelling.

The fundraising is something that should have started years ago. W/o the feasibility study and public announcement by Gonzo/Wanless about our FBS intentions this who process seemed a little fishy.

Long live the Big Sky!