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It's Official: Hawai'i joins Big West and Mountain West

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They have put all olympic sports in the Big West and football into the Mountain West

http://hawaiiathletics.com/news/2010/12/10/GEN_1210103731.aspx
 
Super Hornet said:
Green Cookie Monster said:
It's official, the WAC is dead.
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That's premature. It's likely to become true, but it's still premature.
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I think it's a little late imo, but tomato - tamatoe. The WAC's death will shut the window on any western FCS teams looking to go FBS.
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
It's official, the WAC is dead.
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I think it just suffered a massive heart attack and its dying on the way to the hospital. Paramedics are shocking it with defibrillators but its not responding. Will be dead before it hits the operating table.

All the WAC fans seem to think we are the solution to keeping the dying beast alive. I have to admit I was wrong this summer. Avoiding the WAC was a very wise decision.
 
SJHornet said:
Green Cookie Monster said:
It's official, the WAC is dead.
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I think it just suffered a massive heart attack and its dying on the way to the hospital. Paramedics are shocking it with defibrillators but its not responding. Will be dead before it hits the operating table.

All the WAC fans seem to think we are the solution to keeping the dying beast alive. I have to admit I was wrong this summer. Avoiding the WAC was a very wise decision.
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Especially if they are now seeking to add No Dakota State. Eeeehk!
 
Its like a car wreck. You know you should turn away, but you can't stop looking at the carnage. Now Louisiana Tech and Idaho have openly stated they are looking for options outside the WAC. WAC might also loose its auto-bid. The WAC is running out of options fast. Could be over soon.

http://www.latechsports.com/genrel/121010aaa.html
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/sportslink/2010/dec/09/akey-reflects-season-conference-movement/
http://college-basketball-bracketology.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/26191645
 
LA Tech really has their sh!t together regarding pursuing membership into a better conference:

Louisiana Tech has had on-going communications with Conference USA over the course of the last two years. We have sent them updated copies of our strategic plan for intercollegiate athletics and I have been speaking to the CUSA office on a regular basis. This past summer, President Reneau, Steve Davison and I traveled to Dallas to meet with Conference USA officials. During our meeting, we outlined the recent progress we have made in our athletic programs including our commitment to advancing and completing the Quest for Excellence facility project.

We have also developed a presentation highlighting our achievements and sent it to all of the Conference USA presidents and athletics directors. We have developed printed materials to market our programs, our geographic proximity to CUSA members, and our traditions, academic and athletic excellence. We have negotiated numerous game contracts for basketball and football with several members of CUSA including SMU, Houston and Southern Mississippi. We have also worked closely with CUSA membership in scheduling alliances and bowl negotiations.
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Wanless and Gonzo should take note. If they are serious about pursuing FBS they need to take a similar route. This marketing/public relations plan combined with what sounds like an aggressive facilities capital improvement plan is definitely something that needs to get done if real progress is to be made. Maybe this should be forwarded to them so they get an idea of what needs to be done.
 
i fear that the FBS is going to look more and more like the English Soccer league, with a permier division and then the lower guys. i have a feeling we'll see 4 superconferences, of 16 teams or so, then a handful of lower level conferences that nobody will care about. those guys will be no different, in stature, then FCS...except for budget.

i don't see how those lower level guy will survive financially, unless they get big money from the NCAA from a playoff system. but, i would guess the superconference will take as much of that money as possible.

how can San Jose State survive? not just for football, but for all sports? the Texas schools? they will draw 20000 for an intersquad scrimmage. the Spartans? probably not!
 
Great post DM. Basically they have that two tier system now between the BCS conferences and the non-BCS conferences. If a playoff system is installed in FBS, it is imperative that ALL conference champs get a berth, otherwise the scenario which you described would take hold and the gap between the haves and have-nots will widen exponentially.

Yahoo columnist Dan Wetzel had a good article about a possible FBS playoff system:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-playoff120610

WRT the remaining WAC schools, they are going to get dinged pretty good in the next few years. Not only will they lose any BCS payouts (it’s safe to say the remaining programs aren’t strong enough to be “BCS Busters”), but they will also take a hit in the TV contract with ESPN as there will be nothing keeping its value up. It’s got to be a bleak outlook for any of the remaining WAC schools and they will have to look to whore themselves out in body bag games to the “big boys” to stay out of the red. The options especially looks bad for Utah State, Idaho, and SJSU. They are geographically isolated and their only hope to avoid complete disaster is for a MWC invite.
 
DrMike said:
i fear that the FBS is going to look more and more like the English Soccer league, with a permier division and then the lower guys. i have a feeling we'll see 4 superconferences, of 16 teams or so, then a handful of lower level conferences that nobody will care about. those guys will be no different, in stature, then FCS...except for budget.

i don't see how those lower level guy will survive financially, unless they get big money from the NCAA from a playoff system. but, i would guess the superconference will take as much of that money as possible.

how can San Jose State survive? not just for football, but for all sports? the Texas schools? they will draw 20000 for an intersquad scrimmage. the Spartans? probably not!
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I've always thought the BCS 64 would break off completely in all sports and form their own intercollegiate athletic association. Then you would have three: NCAA, NAIA and BCS (or whatever they would call it).
 
i run a high school basketball tournament out in Livermore, and I have a 'special' fan who i bring to and from all the games, and who hangs out and helps all weekend. guy loves his sports, especially Granada High School. We were talking about the bowls and the NCG....he says ' you know what BCS stands for'....'nope, Steve, what does it stand for?' 'Bullsh*t Crappy System'

so, there's a naming possibility for you!
 
DrMike said:
i run a high school basketball tournament out in Livermore, and I have a 'special' fan who i bring to and from all the games, and who hangs out and helps all weekend. guy loves his sports, especially Granada High School. We were talking about the bowls and the NCG....he says ' you know what BCS stands for'....'nope, Steve, what does it stand for?' 'Bullsh*t Crappy System'

so, there's a naming possibility for you!
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Classic :lol:
 
So, the Big West is only taking Hawaii at this time. UCSD and CSUB both applied when Hawaii did, but they were rejected. Does CSUB get some interest from the Big Sky to become the Hornet's travel partner? I think its between them and Utah Valley. I think Seattle is a long shot. They probably get picked up by the WCC soon to make it a 10 team conference.
 
SJHornet said:
So, the Big West is only taking Hawaii at this time. UCSD and CSUB both applied when Hawaii did, but they were rejected. Does CSUB get some interest from the Big Sky to become the Hornet's travel partner? I think its between them and Utah Valley. I think Seattle is a long shot. They probably get picked up by the WCC soon to make it a 10 team conference.
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Smart move by the Big West, of the teams that sought membership, only UH improves the conference and has something to bring to the table. The others would have just been extra mouths to feed.

I am curious to know how the cash strapped public schools are going to pay for the flights to Hawaii for all their sports. I wonder if UH agreed to subsidize some of the travel to sweeten the pot.
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SDHornet said:
SJHornet said:
So, the Big West is only taking Hawaii at this time. UCSD and CSUB both applied when Hawaii did, but they were rejected. Does CSUB get some interest from the Big Sky to become the Hornet's travel partner? I think its between them and Utah Valley. I think Seattle is a long shot. They probably get picked up by the WCC soon to make it a 10 team conference.
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Smart move by the Big West, of the teams that sought membership, only UH improves the conference and has something to bring to the table. The others would have just been extra mouths to feed.

I am curious to know how the cash strapped public schools are going to pay for the flights to Hawaii for all their sports. I wonder if UH agreed to subsidize some of the travel to sweeten the pot.
:?:
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Maybe there was a new tv contract with the joining of UH, maybe something like that will help subsidize the travel to Hawaii.
 
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