Jan 20 - WSU @ Portland State

[WSUnPurple1]

Bears fans are naive. They are new to Big Sky conference play and how it all works. Last year after they beat us in Greeley they all but assured themselves they were hosting, only to get stopped in their tracks in Ogden. They've never won a conference tourney game. I suspect they'll have 4 or 5 losses when the dust has settled. At least I hope so.

 

[gobears2019]

Bears fans are naive. They are new to Big Sky conference play and how it all works. Last year after they beat us in Greeley they all but assured themselves they were hosting, only to get stopped in their tracks in Ogden. They've never won a conference tourney game. I suspect they'll have 4 or 5 losses when the dust has settled. At least I hope so.

Last year when we beat you in Greeley, we were 3-1 in conference; this year when we beat you in Greeley, we'll be 7-0. That's a big difference. The only way a Big Sky team has stayed close to the Bears this year is when EWU shot 13-of-27 from 3-point range, and if you look at both EWU's offensive stats and UNC's defensive stats, you'll see that was an aberration. The only reason we fell apart at the end of last season is because Devon Beitzel broke his foot during that game in Ogden. Honestly, I think the Bears are better than last year's squad, anyway.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Budweiser and in Loveland!!! Well, I was somewhat close.

Anyway, honestly UNC is about the same as last year. The only thing different is the Big Sky isn't as good as last year. There are a number of teams that are completely new from what was seen last year in the Sky, and that includes Weber State. Four out of the five starters starters are gone off of last seasons Big Sky championship squad. UNC brought back a lot of their players. Granted, you did lose a couple of starters, but the nucleous of the Bears squad is back. SAC, PSU, Eastern, MSU, ISU, and Weber have virtually new rosters. UM lost a corp group of excellent players, perhaps the best player in the Sky in AJ. Also, UM is a totally different team at home than on the road. You can see that in their stats. Also, ISU is never an easy place to play. I'm sure UNC will win a number of road games, and right now, they are the top team in the conference, but I wouldn't get to cocky till you win games in Ogden, Flagstaff, Missoula, Bozeman, and Poky. That is where championships are earned. After the Dee Events Center, the Dahlberg Arena is the next most difficult spot in the conference to play at. If you can squeak out a victory at either spot then I will become a believer. Winning at Reese, the Nest, and Stotts doesn't prove much. Also, remember that Weber is facing the worst road trip arrangement in the history of the Sky they are playing at PSU tomorrow and have to turn around and play at UNC on Sat. That is crossing the entire Big Sky conference in one day, but I can assure you...Weber will come to play.

 

[WILDCAT]

Bears fans are naive. They are new to Big Sky conference play and how it all works. Last year after they beat us in Greeley they all but assured themselves they were hosting, only to get stopped in their tracks in Ogden. They've never won a conference tourney game. I suspect they'll have 4 or 5 losses when the dust has settled. At least I hope so.

Last year when we beat you in Greeley, we were 3-1 in conference; this year when we beat you in Greeley, we'll be 7-0. That's a big difference. The only way a Big Sky team has stayed close to the Bears this year is when EWU shot 13-of-27 from 3-point range, and if you look at both EWU's offensive stats and UNC's defensive stats, you'll see that was an aberration. The only reason we fell apart at the end of last season is because Devon Beitzel broke his foot during that game in Ogden. Honestly, I think the Bears are better than last year's squad, anyway.

Yeah and 4 of those 7 wins will have come at home with your 3 road games coming against teams who have at this moment a combined conference record of 3-13.( PSU 2-3, EWU 1-4, and Sac 0-6) starting 7-0 is great until you start losing on the road to the other TOP schools

Weber's first 5 conf road games this year all come against the other 5 teams that made the conf tourney last year, Montana State, Montana, Northern Arizona, Portland State and Northern Colorado. NOBODY else has had to start conf with 5 of thier first 7 on the road and against these teams.

Dont get cocky man, it might just come back and bite you big time.

 

[purplefogdog]

We will win tonight. I'm sportin my purple today.

 

[heyoh22]

That's right, purple is the color to be wearing today!

 

[n.ogdencat]

Portland State is a decent team. Granted, having Phil Nelson 100% all year would have made a serious impact, and could have helped the Vikings win a couple more games. Regardless, the Vikings have some good young players gaining necessary experience. This team may not put all the pieces together this season, but next season they are going to be good. Yes, they will lose Jones, Nelson, and Guede off of this seasons team, but out of the three, only Melvin Jones, right now, would be considered difficult to replace. The Stott is never an easy place to play...

KEYS TO VICTORY: Play 40mins (I'm still waiting for this to happen), Defense, owning the boards, and outscoring the Vikings in the paint. We all know Weber can hit the long ball, but can Weber own the paint?

 

[talhadfoursteals]

UNC wont be able to host at the HanCOCK because its not big enough. Until UNC is successful against the Montana's, I don't think we should start ASSuming that they will be hosting.

Um...UNC has already been successful against the Montanas:

Jan. 6 Montana * W, 63-45 Final
Jan. 8 Montana State * W, 72-58 Final

The Bears beat the Griz and Bobcats quite handily, as you can see.

LOOOOOOOOL...you can't, even if you win the conference, host at the Cock because its too SMALL!! Purplefogdog understands your dilemma...

The Bears always trying to be bigger than they really are. Small wonders right now. Lets see what happens when you have to travel. Beating UM at your place doesn't say anything, like Talhad said, you've got to win on the road, Eastern & SAC don't count, to prove you are worth being mentioned as a contender.

 

[gobears2019]

UNC wont be able to host at the HanCOCK because its not big enough. Until UNC is successful against the Montana's, I don't think we should start ASSuming that they will be hosting.

Um...UNC has already been successful against the Montanas:

Jan. 6 Montana * W, 63-45 Final
Jan. 8 Montana State * W, 72-58 Final

The Bears beat the Griz and Bobcats quite handily, as you can see.

LOOOOOOOOL...you can't, even if you win the conference, host at the Cock because its too SMALL!! Purplefogdog understands your dilemma...

The Bears always trying to be bigger than they really are. Small wonders right now. Lets see what happens when you have to travel. Beating UM at your place doesn't say anything, like Talhad said, you've got to win on the road, Eastern & SAC don't count, to prove you are worth being mentioned as a contender.

I think Weber is the team that needs to work on winning on the road. Last time I checked, the Cats are 1-2 in conference road games and the Bears are 2-0 on the road in conference. I think blowing out UM at home says quite a bit, seeing how they beat y'all by 20 when you played them.

 

[heyoh22]

GoBears, why not wait til this week is over? You can gloat if UNC wins, or Weber fans can say this affirms the parity of teams in the Sky this year, and again state that after road trips to Montana and ISU, the standings will say it all.

 

[WILDCAT]

UNC wont be able to host at the HanCOCK because its not big enough. Until UNC is successful against the Montana's, I don't think we should start ASSuming that they will be hosting.

Um...UNC has already been successful against the Montanas:

Jan. 6 Montana * W, 63-45 Final
Jan. 8 Montana State * W, 72-58 Final

The Bears beat the Griz and Bobcats quite handily, as you can see.

LOOOOOOOOL...you can't, even if you win the conference, host at the Cock because its too SMALL!! Purplefogdog understands your dilemma...

The Bears always trying to be bigger than they really are. Small wonders right now. Lets see what happens when you have to travel. Beating UM at your place doesn't say anything, like Talhad said, you've got to win on the road, Eastern & SAC don't count, to prove you are worth being mentioned as a contender.

I think Weber is the team that needs to work on winning on the road. Last time I checked, the Cats are 1-2 in conference road games and the Bears are 2-0 on the road in conference. I think blowing out UM at home says quite a bit, seeing how they beat y'all by 20 when you played them.

Your gloating about being 2-0 in conf road games when your road games have been against EASTERN AND PORTLAND STATE? who have a combined record of 3-7, dont tell me your gonna come on here again and gloat some more if you beat Sac to?

Weber has started out with a little bit more difficult road schedule, Montana, Montana State and NAU a combined record of 12-5.

And once again since you dont seem to get it, You beat Montana AT HOME, say it with me AT HOME, we lost AT MONTANA, as in Missoula Montana.

Your making yourself look more and more foolish with every post.

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

UNC wont be able to host at the HanCOCK because its not big enough. Until UNC is successful against the Montana's, I don't think we should start ASSuming that they will be hosting.

Um...UNC has already been successful against the Montanas:

Jan. 6 Montana * W, 63-45 Final
Jan. 8 Montana State * W, 72-58 Final

The Bears beat the Griz and Bobcats quite handily, as you can see.

LOOOOOOOOL...you can't, even if you win the conference, host at the Cock because its too SMALL!! Purplefogdog understands your dilemma...

The Bears always trying to be bigger than they really are. Small wonders right now. Lets see what happens when you have to travel. Beating UM at your place doesn't say anything, like Talhad said, you've got to win on the road, Eastern & SAC don't count, to prove you are worth being mentioned as a contender.

I think Weber is the team that needs to work on winning on the road. Last time I checked, the Cats are 1-2 in conference road games and the Bears are 2-0 on the road in conference. I think blowing out UM at home says quite a bit, seeing how they beat y'all by 20 when you played them.

Hey look pea brain Weber's three road games were against MSU, UM, and NAU. The bears have played Eastern and Portland State on the road. Lets be honest here, PSU has a decent squad they play hard and have some decent athletes, yet, they are nothing like they were. They are getting better, and UNC was fortunate to play them at the beginning rather than the end of the conference schedule. But Eastern??? No...not a tough place to play. The Eagles could beat anyone on any given night, yes, but a top conference team they are not. While, Weber has played their first 7 away from the DEE and have had to visit the, after the Dee, five worst places in the Sky to play. PLAYING UM at Butler-Hancock doesn't mean you are great. Everyone knows Montana on the road is a totally different beast than Montana at home. If you beat Weber on Sat, Great for your team, but just remember Weber will have played 48 hours earlier in PORTLAND. No matter, I know Weber will give the bears everything they've got.

 

[gobears2019]

And once again since you dont seem to get it, You beat Montana AT HOME, say it with me AT HOME, we lost AT MONTANA, as in Missoula Montana.

Your making yourself look more and more foolish with every post.

No, you don't seem to get it. We beart Montana at home by 18 POINTS, you lost at Montana by 19 POINTS.

18+19=37

Are you really trying to tell me that home-court advantage is worth 37 points??? Is that really the argument you're going with? Really? Home court is worth 37 points, really???

Ok then...if you weren't in Utah I'd think you were drunk.

 

[n.ogdencat]

And once again since you dont seem to get it, You beat Montana AT HOME, say it with me AT HOME, we lost AT MONTANA, as in Missoula Montana.

Your making yourself look more and more foolish with every post.

No, you don't seem to get it. We beart Montana at home by 18 POINTS, you lost at Montana by 19 POINTS.

18+19=37

Are you really trying to tell me that home-court advantage is worth 37 points??? Is that really the argument you're going with? Really? Home court is worth 37 points, really???

Ok then...if you weren't in Utah I'd think you were drunk.

YES...even though I think you have declared war on logic and arithmetic.

EXAMPLE:
In 2006-07 (Weber won the Big Sky that season and played UCLA in the NCAA tourny) Weber beat lowly SAC by 20 at home and lost to them by 22 at the Nest. NOTHING MAKES SENSE IN THE SKY!!

 

[weberwildman]

And once again since you dont seem to get it, You beat Montana AT HOME, say it with me AT HOME, we lost AT MONTANA, as in Missoula Montana.

Your making yourself look more and more foolish with every post.

No, you don't seem to get it. We beart Montana at home by 18 POINTS, you lost at Montana by 19 POINTS.

18+19=37

Are you really trying to tell me that home-court advantage is worth 37 points??? Is that really the argument you're going with? Really? Home court is worth 37 points, really???

Ok then...if you weren't in Utah I'd think you were drunk.

Son... You are a pussy!

 

[gobears2019]

And once again since you dont seem to get it, You beat Montana AT HOME, say it with me AT HOME, we lost AT MONTANA, as in Missoula Montana.

Your making yourself look more and more foolish with every post.

No, you don't seem to get it. We beart Montana at home by 18 POINTS, you lost at Montana by 19 POINTS.

18+19=37

Are you really trying to tell me that home-court advantage is worth 37 points??? Is that really the argument you're going with? Really? Home court is worth 37 points, really???

Ok then...if you weren't in Utah I'd think you were drunk.

YES...even though I think you have declared war on logic and arithmetic.

EXAMPLE:
In 2006-07 (Weber won the Big Sky that season and played UCLA in the NCAA tourny) Weber beat lowly SAC by 20 at home and lost to them by 22 at the Nest. NOTHING MAKES SENSE IN THE SKY!!

Now you forced me to compile data.

Looking at Big Sky games last season and so far this season, the most relevant data for my point, the home team won by an average of 4.75 points. So if you include that advantage for Montana over Weber and UNC over Montana, it means there's still a gap of over 27 points. If you want to go against 96 games of data and argue that home court is worth something like 40 points, you can do so, though I don't see a whole lot of sense in it.

 

[weberwildcat]

i just hope we can get a win in portland tonight. this isn't an automatic win by any means. who cares what unc does, its too early to worry. we will get the chance to play them 2 times after this psu game.

if we can get a win tonight and then focus on not losing at home we will be in a position to talk smack down the road! but not yet yall. :mrgreen:

we are 4-0 all time at home vs unc. if we can keep that streak for another year i would be very happy! i do like that we are becoming a big game for unc since we are there closed conference foe like we are for nau. unc games have been some of the best these last few years. the fact that members here are talkin smack back and forth with a bears fan tells you UNC is now for real!!

maybe we should start a thread about conference teams we look forward to playing and why.

 

[weberwildman]

And once again since you dont seem to get it, You beat Montana AT HOME, say it with me AT HOME, we lost AT MONTANA, as in Missoula Montana.

Your making yourself look more and more foolish with every post.

No, you don't seem to get it. We beart Montana at home by 18 POINTS, you lost at Montana by 19 POINTS.

18+19=37

Are you really trying to tell me that home-court advantage is worth 37 points??? Is that really the argument you're going with? Really? Home court is worth 37 points, really???

Ok then...if you weren't in Utah I'd think you were drunk.

YES...even though I think you have declared war on logic and arithmetic.

EXAMPLE:
In 2006-07 (Weber won the Big Sky that season and played UCLA in the NCAA tourny) Weber beat lowly SAC by 20 at home and lost to them by 22 at the Nest. NOTHING MAKES SENSE IN THE SKY!!

Now you forced me to compile data.

Looking at Big Sky games last season and so far this season, the most relevant data for my point, the home team won by an average of 4.75 points. So if you include that advantage for Montana over Weber and UNC over Montana, it means there's still a gap of over 27 points. If you want to go against 96 games of data and argue that home court is worth something like 40 points, you can do so, though I don't see a whole lot of sense in it.

Dude... GoBears... three words... GET A LIFE!

 

[n.ogdencat]

2 hours till tip off!!