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Jody Sears
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OldSchoolHornet
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If there wasn't truth in that letter nothing ever would have become of it.
OldSchoolHornet
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And I can't figure out why the people who keep saying Sears won with "Sperbeck's team"...even though the staff that won seven games with those players actually recruited and developed that talent...now refuse to give him credit for recruiting and developing the talent Taylor is winning with. How many of the key players on this club were recruited by Taylor's staff compared to the players they inherited from the efforts of Sears and his staff?
To be perfectly clear...I am in no way attempting to diminish the coaching job the current staff is doing...I think they have done a SPECTACULAR job. I just think there are guys on this board who are trying to play it both ways.
To be perfectly clear...I am in no way attempting to diminish the coaching job the current staff is doing...I think they have done a SPECTACULAR job. I just think there are guys on this board who are trying to play it both ways.
VintageHornet
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Totally agree. Sears and staff deserve a lot of the credit for putting this roster together. Taylor and Co. have just taken them to the next level.
I'm thinking all of the main contributors were here, except maybe for the frosh WR and the Mike backer (BTW, love watching that kid play). And of course neither can claim QB Thomson, since he was originally recruited by Mattos :lol:
I'm thinking all of the main contributors were here, except maybe for the frosh WR and the Mike backer (BTW, love watching that kid play). And of course neither can claim QB Thomson, since he was originally recruited by Mattos :lol:
BuckeyeHornetFan
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Clearly you guys aren’t paying attention if you don’t understand.
I’ll repeat one last time, as I’m not gonna keep stringing this discussion along.
My contention is that the Sperbeck era laid the ‘groundwork’ for where the program currently is. That doesn’t mean Sperbeck himself is responsible for everything up to this point in time. Just that he lit the match. He picked up the program at an extremely low point and left it in a much better place than he found it, as there was much more talent on the roster. Furthermore, he recruited well locally, something that wasn’t happening near as well previously.
I clearly gave Sears credit for continuing to recruit well during his time as HC, especially locally. Go back and re-read. Which is why the program has the talent it has now.
I then stated that this new staff has taken things to a new level with their schemes, ability to prepare players and game day decision making. Something that was lacking previously.
At no time did I fail to give credit to others.
I firmly believe this staff will prove to be superior to former staffs in every way. That’s why I was lobbying for Troy Taylor to land the job while he was still at Folsom. I stated so on this very board. Anyone can go back and check. I’ve believed in the guy for a long time.
So I’m not some Sperbeck loyalist or homer. I just see it how it see it.
Sperbeck and Sears both contributed. But Sperbeck started it. Hopefully Taylor will run with it.
I’ll repeat one last time, as I’m not gonna keep stringing this discussion along.
My contention is that the Sperbeck era laid the ‘groundwork’ for where the program currently is. That doesn’t mean Sperbeck himself is responsible for everything up to this point in time. Just that he lit the match. He picked up the program at an extremely low point and left it in a much better place than he found it, as there was much more talent on the roster. Furthermore, he recruited well locally, something that wasn’t happening near as well previously.
I clearly gave Sears credit for continuing to recruit well during his time as HC, especially locally. Go back and re-read. Which is why the program has the talent it has now.
I then stated that this new staff has taken things to a new level with their schemes, ability to prepare players and game day decision making. Something that was lacking previously.
At no time did I fail to give credit to others.
I firmly believe this staff will prove to be superior to former staffs in every way. That’s why I was lobbying for Troy Taylor to land the job while he was still at Folsom. I stated so on this very board. Anyone can go back and check. I’ve believed in the guy for a long time.
So I’m not some Sperbeck loyalist or homer. I just see it how it see it.
Sperbeck and Sears both contributed. But Sperbeck started it. Hopefully Taylor will run with it.
VintageHornet
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And you apparently read too much into my post. I was just agreeing with oldschool that Spears deserves credit for putting together the current roster. I took no sides on the Sperbeck debate, but I will now - I thought he did a great job and was sad to see him go. He definitely put this program on an upward trajectory.
Gee, some touchy nerves on this topic. Can we all just agree that they all sucked and TT is the demi-God we have been praying for.
BuckeyeHornetFan
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VintageHornet said:
Green Cookie Monster said:
My apology. My angst was more with OldSchool's comment, not you Vintage. I clearly gave credit to Sears for continuing the solid work in recruiting, especially locally, in my prior posts so it frustrated me that seemed to go unnoticed. I'm over it now though.
Yes, GCM, I can agree to that!
Moving along ....
OldSchoolHornet
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BHF...my comments were not directed at you. Certainly didn't mean to cause you any angst. And yes, I vividly remember you suggesting Taylor for the job many moons ago. It was a very intriguing idea that I never thought would come to fruition but it was a GREAT call.
GreenArmySwarm
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While we're here talking about good (not) ol' Jody Sears, every other pages in the Big Sky is talking about Troy Taylor leaving lol...and I don't blame them...
Let's not kid ourselves, SJSU already has eyes on him. Andy Thomson also. Troy Taylor is probably waiting for that Cal job to open up, already has that PAC12 pedigree (a step away from HC as an OC/elite alum)...he's just waiting. So, should we be rooting for Cal to be good? LOL. There's a chance he might turn down SJSU because if he continues to win, the pay is NOT that big of a difference with the incentives that kicks in
Let's not kid ourselves, SJSU already has eyes on him. Andy Thomson also. Troy Taylor is probably waiting for that Cal job to open up, already has that PAC12 pedigree (a step away from HC as an OC/elite alum)...he's just waiting. So, should we be rooting for Cal to be good? LOL. There's a chance he might turn down SJSU because if he continues to win, the pay is NOT that big of a difference with the incentives that kicks in
VintageHornet
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Coaches tend to be on one of 3 paths - 1) building a resume to move up, 2) trying to build something special (Mattos, Volek, Sperbeck, etc), and 3) happy someone gave them a chance and just trying to get one more year out of it (Mooshagian, Sears).
The number 2 guys are typically from here and/or have a history with the team and community. So I like to think Taylor is of that mindset. But I'm not naive enough to think that if Cal calls he won't pick up the phone. And I do think that will happen. Probably multiple PAC12 teams will be courting him. But San Jose St? No way. Hell, if he wants to lose to Davis, he can do that here!
I just hope we get a couple of years out of him before he has to make that decision. He does have family and friends here, and probably is looking for some stability, at least in the short-term. Plus, he convinced his Folsom buddies to come join him on the staff, so I can't image him leaving them so quickly. I guess they could go with him, but they all have even more roots here.
As for Thompson, I got to think he is in that number 1 category. I'm sure he would jump at the chance to be a BSC-type HC.
The number 2 guys are typically from here and/or have a history with the team and community. So I like to think Taylor is of that mindset. But I'm not naive enough to think that if Cal calls he won't pick up the phone. And I do think that will happen. Probably multiple PAC12 teams will be courting him. But San Jose St? No way. Hell, if he wants to lose to Davis, he can do that here!
I just hope we get a couple of years out of him before he has to make that decision. He does have family and friends here, and probably is looking for some stability, at least in the short-term. Plus, he convinced his Folsom buddies to come join him on the staff, so I can't image him leaving them so quickly. I guess they could go with him, but they all have even more roots here.
As for Thompson, I got to think he is in that number 1 category. I'm sure he would jump at the chance to be a BSC-type HC.
I agree with BHF, spot on. Let's not pretend that Sears would have had wins over a ranked EWU and top 10 wins over the montuckies over three successive weeks if he and his staff were still around. That's just a laughable idea.BuckeyeHornetFan said:
I'm so glad that Nelsen and Orr pulled together the resources and made the moves they did to bring Coach Taylor here. D1 caliber leadership and execution right there. :clap:
OldSchoolHornet
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SDHornet said:
Just because you don’t know who sent the letter doesn’t mean it isn’t common knowledge. And the letter was truthful...unlike the crap you post on this site as facts.
On the contrary, I've heard from multiple sources who sent the letter and it lined up with all the connected dots considering how and when it all went down.
None of it matters now though. The Level II violations occurred and the consequences were paid, it wasn't the death knell for the program you claimed them to be, and the probation for those infractions ended just about 3 years ago. The program and the university have moved on, so should you.
None of it matters now though. The Level II violations occurred and the consequences were paid, it wasn't the death knell for the program you claimed them to be, and the probation for those infractions ended just about 3 years ago. The program and the university have moved on, so should you.
BuckeyeHornetFan
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OldSchoolHornet said:
Then allow me to apologize again. Poor inference on my part.
I think a lot of people deserve credit for righting the ship and getting the program where it is today. And I think we’re all in agreement that Troy Taylor and staff had the ability to take it further than anyone else before them and they’re doing just that so far.
BuckeyeHornetFan
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GreenArmySwarm said:
How come those same folks aren’t talking about UM, EWU, or MSU’s coaches leaving?
Funny, but I listened to a Cal Poly podcast last night in which they had HC Tim Walsh on the program previewing the upcoming game. When asked about Sac State’s turnaround, he volunteered that around 2000 — I believe he said it was his 4th season on the job — that when asked what the best job in the Big Sky was, he answered Sac State. Says he felt if they ever landed the right guy, it was a sleeping giant program just waiting to explode.
Well, it took 19 years, but what he predicted looks like it could come true. They seem to have found the right guy.
And while he’s not an alumnus, he is a Sacto guy through and through. Grew up here. Played HS ball here. Coached HS ball here. Took a hefty pay cut to come back here.
Could he leave? Of course he could. But a lot of signs are pointing to him wanting to be here.
Most of all, he signed a 7-year contract. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that means he can’t accept another job unless the Hornets AD and President allow him out of the deal. And Taylor doesn’t strike me as a guy that would sabotage the program or lose purposely to get out of a contract.
So if Sac State isn’t willing to allow him to leave, he likely ain’t going anywhere for a while.
Anything is possible. But as others have mentioned, most of the staff has deep roots here in Sacramento. IMO that’s a good thing for the Hornets. As long as the program continues to develop and rise, the more likely it is that some or all of these guys choose to stick around.
IMO it is much more impressive to have done what say, Chris Petersen accomplished in raising the Boise State program to where it is now than taking over a historically established program then become just another link in a long chain. As a former coach and competitor myself, I’d rather create a legacy than be a small part of an existing one.
I’m hoping Taylor and staff feel the same way.
HornetHope
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OldSchoolHornet said:
Ok I also remember BHF bringing TT up years ago and I never thought we would get this level of talent in coaches
BuckeyeHornetFan
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HornetHope said:
I’m far off and wrong 90% of the time, so I gotta revel in the few things I actually get right from time to time. :mrgreen:
To be honest, once TT left Folsom and had success at EWU and Utah, I didn’t think we’d get him either. I felt the time to strike was before anyone else discovered him.
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