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JSU Board -- Us against the world thread

HEY GUYS!

I got it figured out!

EWU > OREGON STATE > UTAH > BYU > WISCONSIN > TENNESSEE TECH > MURRAY STATE > JACKSONVILLE
 
That was me that posted the link to our forum. I know about the copying and pasting with look-a-likes...I bit because I wanted to play... Couldn't keep up as I've been in meetings the last 2 days... I wish we did it... Some guys probably don't know about the Montana Grizzlies thing... I do, as Montana has always been a team I've followed since I was a kid growing up in Great Falls. I have visited their forum, as a troll :twisted: as they had been playing against Georgia Southern, another team we tend to keep track of down south... (didn't say I liked them)...I used to manage college/resort programs while with Coca-Cola North America and visited their campus many times.

All in good fun guys...
 
Hey jsu, what happened in that game versus Easter Illinois? It seems like it got ugly early. By looking at the two teams, it seems like the Cocks should have matched up better. Was it just a case of playing a bad game, or having a bunch of turnovers, or what?

The result just doesn't seem in line with your team's other performances. Or are they just that good? Credit the OVC as it seems like a much improved conference. Your group already looks like a stronger bunch than the new SoCon.
 
Okay, I got the last one wrong.

EWU > OREGON STATE > UTAH > STANFORD > OREGON > TENNESSEE > SOUTH CAROLINA > OLE MISS > LSU > AUBURN > MIZZOU > MURRAY STATE > JACKSONVILLE.

Transitive property, right guys?
 
Rjones61 said:
Okay, I got the last one wrong.

EWU > OREGON STATE > UTAH > STANFORD > OREGON > TENNESSEE > SOUTH CAROLINA > OLE MISS > LSU > AUBURN > MIZZOU > MURRAY STATE > JACKSONVILLE.

Transitive property, right guys?

Good work. Using that same property, you could prove EWU is better than any team with at least 1 loss.
 
JPhillips71 said:
I'm done for, won't let me post over there any more... Don't know why.

For some reason guys, I'm having trouble periodically as well at gojaxstate.com. Sometimes it has its issues with banning me and taking me back to the log-in page, and just yesterday, in a boring-a$$ meeting, I was trying to post something with no luck.... Nobody would ban you guys just because you're an EWU fan, I promise. If you want to address someone, and I'm sure he wouldn't mind me putting his screen name out there, then send a PM to Whup Em All....he is one of the mods who can assist. When I made a crack at Canadian Goose Feathers in an earlier non-topic reply I was serious that we keep getting bombarded by someone trying to sell stuff....one item was a jacket made of CGF's...
 
LDopaPDX said:
Hey jsu, what happened in that game versus Easter Illinois? It seems like it got ugly early. By looking at the two teams, it seems like the Cocks should have matched up better. Was it just a case of playing a bad game, or having a bunch of turnovers, or what?

The result just doesn't seem in line with your team's other performances. Or are they just that good? Credit the OVC as it seems like a much improved conference. Your group already looks like a stronger bunch than the new SoCon.

Great question... There were several factors.

1. The sustained winds in that game were 25-30 mph the whole game. We started out facing the wind which took our passing game out immediately. This is where we got behind early. They score 35 points in the 1st qtr...
2. Jimmy Garoppolo is an amazing player. Some analysists predict he'll go in the middle rounds this next NFL draft, and I can tell you that he's another Tony Romo story but better than Romo was and will ever will be. Jimmy has all the tools, and he's being overshadowed by Brock Jensen from NDSU.
3. EIU's O-Line is big...very big. They're quick and strong, but we did keep Garoppolo to under 200yds passing, as the wind was a huge factor...
4. EIU's defensive front was also very big and strong...
5. It was such an off game for JSU that when we got behind early we were out of it. I don't remember us playing that poorly, but when you look at all the factors...1st qtr scoring, the wind, EIU's size and quickness we just had a bad day.

Things have definitely not been the same since that game, as I believe we've turned that corner...
 
To say Jax State has turned the corner is correct. This team has bought into the vision that Bill Clark has, and now they are seeing the results. Will it be enough to take care of EWU? Let me tell you that you will see the best we have, and win or lose, you will know you have been in a dogfight.

Looking forward to a great game. This is what college football is all about.

FC
 
jsualumnus said:
That was me that posted the link to our forum. I know about the copying and pasting with look-a-likes...I bit because I wanted to play... Couldn't keep up as I've been in meetings the last 2 days... I wish we did it... Some guys probably don't know about the Montana Grizzlies thing... I do, as Montana has always been a team I've followed since I was a kid growing up in Great Falls. I have visited their forum, as a troll :twisted: as they had been playing against Georgia Southern, another team we tend to keep track of down south... (didn't say I liked them)...I used to manage college/resort programs while with Coca-Cola North America and visited their campus many times.

All in good fun guys...
Yeah, this is the guy. He's one of the nice ones....
 
jsualumnus said:
LDopaPDX said:
Hey jsu, what happened in that game versus Easter Illinois? It seems like it got ugly early. By looking at the two teams, it seems like the Cocks should have matched up better. Was it just a case of playing a bad game, or having a bunch of turnovers, or what?

The result just doesn't seem in line with your team's other performances. Or are they just that good? Credit the OVC as it seems like a much improved conference. Your group already looks like a stronger bunch than the new SoCon.

Great question... There were several factors.

1. The sustained winds in that game were 25-30 mph the whole game. We started out facing the wind which took our passing game out immediately. This is where we got behind early. They score 35 points in the 1st qtr...
2. Jimmy Garoppolo is an amazing player. Some analysists predict he'll go in the middle rounds this next NFL draft, and I can tell you that he's another Tony Romo story but better than Romo was and will ever will be. Jimmy has all the tools, and he's being overshadowed by Brock Jensen from NDSU.
3. EIU's O-Line is big...very big. They're quick and strong, but we did keep Garoppolo to under 200yds passing, as the wind was a huge factor...
4. EIU's defensive front was also very big and strong...
5. It was such an off game for JSU that when we got behind early we were out of it. I don't remember us playing that poorly, but when you look at all the factors...1st qtr scoring, the wind, EIU's size and quickness we just had a bad day.

Things have definitely not been the same since that game, as I believe we've turned that corner...

Since I can't post on the JSU board - several day-long log in problems, I'll get my 'fix' over here. What Babers has done at EIU is nothing short of amazing. He has all of the tools and could compete with any non-AQ FBS team and a good many BCS teams. We'll all watch Garoppolo on Sundays.

Incidentally, looking forward to a good game. It's just a shame ESPN 2 didn't pick it up - for a wider audience!
 
Also....keep in mind that the Towson / Eastern Illinois game in on ESPN2...that's right ESPN2...tonight! So you'll see Garoppolo on a national stage...tell me what you think of the OL/DL size and quickness.
 
Dozy said:
jsualumnus said:
That was me that posted the link to our forum. I know about the copying and pasting with look-a-likes...I bit because I wanted to play... Couldn't keep up as I've been in meetings the last 2 days... I wish we did it... Some guys probably don't know about the Montana Grizzlies thing... I do, as Montana has always been a team I've followed since I was a kid growing up in Great Falls. I have visited their forum, as a troll :twisted: as they had been playing against Georgia Southern, another team we tend to keep track of down south... (didn't say I liked them)...I used to manage college/resort programs while with Coca-Cola North America and visited their campus many times.

All in good fun guys...
Yeah, this is the guy. He's one of the nice ones....


Thank, Dozy! Envious that I'm not there this weekend. ...kid commitment in Macon, GA. I hope all arrive safely...
 
From a football standpoint, here are my thoughts.

Offense - we should be able to light these guys up. JSU is VERY aggressive and brings a lot of pressure on defense. They tend to leave their corners with little to no help and run a lot of press man coverage. They have not seen a receiving corp like ours all year, not even close, so if our receivers can separate at the line of scrimmage (which they should) we will have a field day throwing the ball. This is the type of game where Kupp will win a lot of jump balls and Hill will just blow by some DB's. They have faced EIU and their QB, but Adams is just as good but more mobile. Adams has the same amount of TD passes (51) but has more rushing TD's and a better efficiency. If they bring Pressure, Adams can escape. VA tends to look deep when he breaks the pocket, but he had his opportunities last week to run for big yardage and didn't, I think he will run more this week. JSU will get their sacks and hurries, but if they bring the pressure like they typically do, we should have a field day passing. I also think Forte has a big day, probably more so in the passing game than rushing. If we are rolling and they bring pressure, we could literally put up 60+ points.

Defense - Again, JSU seems to be very aggressive. They run a lot. It seems they have a similar offense to Sam Houston but rely more on Power than Speed. Their QB runs and this is the type of offense that has hurt us in the past so I think they will move the ball, but their lack of overall team speed compared to others we have seen in the past will help us. We struggle with teams that just have a ton of speed and I just don't see it with JSU. I think our defensive game plan will be similar to last week, make them move the ball and beat us through the air. Can they, maybe, will they, no.

OVERALL - this looks like a mismatch on paper and as an EWU fan I think it is. JSU does appear to be playing well and does have a nice win at Mcneese last week. I think their fans underestimate how good we are and our conference is heads and shoulders better than the OVC. What seems to get lost in all of this is that Eastern is 20-1 after November 1st the past 4 years, including a national championship and a national semifinal appearance....There is a reason the vegas lines and money are moving more in EWU's Direction, I believe the spread is now double digits.

Looking forward to a great game and win for the Eags! Also hoping for Towson to pull off the victory tonight!
 
marceagfan5 said:
From a football standpoint, here are my thoughts.

Offense - we should be able to light these guys up. JSU is VERY aggressive and brings a lot of pressure on defense. They tend to leave their corners with little to no help and run a lot of press man coverage. They have not seen a receiving corp like ours all year, not even close, so if our receivers can separate at the line of scrimmage (which they should) we will have a field day throwing the ball. This is the type of game where Kupp will win a lot of jump balls and Hill will just blow by some DB's. They have faced EIU and their QB, but Adams is just as good but more mobile. Adams has the same amount of TD passes (51) but has more rushing TD's and a better efficiency. If they bring Pressure, Adams can escape. VA tends to look deep when he breaks the pocket, but he had his opportunities last week to run for big yardage and didn't, I think he will run more this week. JSU will get their sacks and hurries, but if they bring the pressure like they typically do, we should have a field day passing. I also think Forte has a big day, probably more so in the passing game than rushing. If we are rolling and they bring pressure, we could literally put up 60+ points.

Defense - Again, JSU seems to be very aggressive. They run a lot. It seems they have a similar offense to Sam Houston but rely more on Power than Speed. Their QB runs and this is the type of offense that has hurt us in the past so I think they will move the ball, but their lack of overall team speed compared to others we have seen in the past will help us. We struggle with teams that just have a ton of speed and I just don't see it with JSU. I think our defensive game plan will be similar to last week, make them move the ball and beat us through the air. Can they, maybe, will they, no.

OVERALL - this looks like a mismatch on paper and as an EWU fan I think it is. JSU does appear to be playing well and does have a nice win at Mcneese last week. I think their fans underestimate how good we are and our conference is heads and shoulders better than the OVC. What seems to get lost in all of this is that Eastern is 20-1 after November 1st the past 4 years, including a national championship and a national semifinal appearance....There is a reason the vegas lines and money are moving more in EWU's Direction, I believe the spread is now double digits.

Looking forward to a great game and win for the Eags! Also hoping for Towson to pull off the victory tonight!
marc;
Have you watched them play or speculation?
If you have watched I'm curious how well they hide their blitz's and coverages? VA is getting better all the time at seeing what is coming so if they like to blitz we can expect to burn them.
Teams lately are trying to jam our receivers at the LOS, especially Cooper. HAve you noticed this in previous games? That is good because I'm sure Kupp and company are learning how to overcome that tactic.
Eagles roll in this one.
 
clawman said:
marceagfan5 said:
From a football standpoint, here are my thoughts.

Offense - we should be able to light these guys up. JSU is VERY aggressive and brings a lot of pressure on defense. They tend to leave their corners with little to no help and run a lot of press man coverage. They have not seen a receiving corp like ours all year, not even close, so if our receivers can separate at the line of scrimmage (which they should) we will have a field day throwing the ball. This is the type of game where Kupp will win a lot of jump balls and Hill will just blow by some DB's. They have faced EIU and their QB, but Adams is just as good but more mobile. Adams has the same amount of TD passes (51) but has more rushing TD's and a better efficiency. If they bring Pressure, Adams can escape. VA tends to look deep when he breaks the pocket, but he had his opportunities last week to run for big yardage and didn't, I think he will run more this week. JSU will get their sacks and hurries, but if they bring the pressure like they typically do, we should have a field day passing. I also think Forte has a big day, probably more so in the passing game than rushing. If we are rolling and they bring pressure, we could literally put up 60+ points.

Defense - Again, JSU seems to be very aggressive. They run a lot. It seems they have a similar offense to Sam Houston but rely more on Power than Speed. Their QB runs and this is the type of offense that has hurt us in the past so I think they will move the ball, but their lack of overall team speed compared to others we have seen in the past will help us. We struggle with teams that just have a ton of speed and I just don't see it with JSU. I think our defensive game plan will be similar to last week, make them move the ball and beat us through the air. Can they, maybe, will they, no.

OVERALL - this looks like a mismatch on paper and as an EWU fan I think it is. JSU does appear to be playing well and does have a nice win at Mcneese last week. I think their fans underestimate how good we are and our conference is heads and shoulders better than the OVC. What seems to get lost in all of this is that Eastern is 20-1 after November 1st the past 4 years, including a national championship and a national semifinal appearance....There is a reason the vegas lines and money are moving more in EWU's Direction, I believe the spread is now double digits.

Looking forward to a great game and win for the Eags! Also hoping for Towson to pull off the victory tonight!
marc;
Have you watched them play or speculation?
If you have watched I'm curious how well they hide their blitz's and coverages? VA is getting better all the time at seeing what is coming so if they like to blitz we can expect to burn them.
Teams lately are trying to jam our receivers at the LOS, especially Cooper. HAve you noticed this in previous games? That is good because I'm sure Kupp and company are learning how to overcome that tactic.
Eagles roll in this one.

I have see some of their games, not in entirety, but a little bit of late. They bring pressure and they don't try to hide it, thats their MO. They will bring it in a running or passing down...They essentially look to bring one more guy than we can block and it shows because they have 50 sacks on the year and had 11 last week!

They will try to Jam our receivers at the line. I think Kupp and Mitchell should fight those off and VA will just throw it to them if he is being pressured, and more times than not, we will come away with a catch. I think Shaq Hill is set to have a huge game. You can't pressure someone like that because if you don't hit him, he will run right by you. I also think we will run a couple swing passes to Forte for big yardage.

They run an offense that we struggle to stop and their QB is very mobile. They have a couple backs, one looks like a bowling ball, the other appears to have some quickness but not as much as we have seen from say, Sam Houston or Toledo. We need to make them throw it, just like last week. This is the type of game where if we build an early lead we should be fine. They are not going to wear us down, but they may be difficult to stop at times as they have the type of offense we struggle with.
 
luckyintheorder said:
EdubAlum said:
What's up with Big_Fan, have you guys been picking on him? he seems to be pretty butt hurt about something. i fully expect a solid game (and i think everyone else does too), they've won two playoff games, that says something no matter what.

Just posted on the same thing. VERY butt hurt. The other funny thing is he says won't post on our board only AGS. But he mentioned in another post that AGS had EWU winning 2 to 1 and by a blowout. Not sure I see the difference between the AGS board or our board :-)

:loser:

:? :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:





;)
 
Dubs said:
jsualumnus said:
LDopaPDX said:
Hey jsu, what happened in that game versus Easter Illinois? It seems like it got ugly early. By looking at the two teams, it seems like the Cocks should have matched up better. Was it just a case of playing a bad game, or having a bunch of turnovers, or what?

The result just doesn't seem in line with your team's other performances. Or are they just that good? Credit the OVC as it seems like a much improved conference. Your group already looks like a stronger bunch than the new SoCon.

Great question... There were several factors.

1. The sustained winds in that game were 25-30 mph the whole game. We started out facing the wind which took our passing game out immediately. This is where we got behind early. They score 35 points in the 1st qtr...
2. Jimmy Garoppolo is an amazing player. Some analysists predict he'll go in the middle rounds this next NFL draft, and I can tell you that he's another Tony Romo story but better than Romo was and will ever will be. Jimmy has all the tools, and he's being overshadowed by Brock Jensen from NDSU.
3. EIU's O-Line is big...very big. They're quick and strong, but we did keep Garoppolo to under 200yds passing, as the wind was a huge factor...
4. EIU's defensive front was also very big and strong...
5. It was such an off game for JSU that when we got behind early we were out of it. I don't remember us playing that poorly, but when you look at all the factors...1st qtr scoring, the wind, EIU's size and quickness we just had a bad day.

Things have definitely not been the same since that game, as I believe we've turned that corner...

Since I can't post on the JSU board - several day-long log in problems, I'll get my 'fix' over here. What Babers has done at EIU is nothing short of amazing. He has all of the tools and could compete with any non-AQ FBS team and a good many BCS teams. We'll all watch Garoppolo on Sundays.

Incidentally, looking forward to a good game. It's just a shame ESPN 2 didn't pick it up - for a wider audience!


Dubs, I can't log in on gojaxstate.com either. EWU guys it's not you there appears to be a problem. I haven't been able to log in since Tuesday night. Sometimes it appears the site is down.

I'd like to say I think the game will be a tough one. I'm confident JSU will win but I am aware of how good you guys are and the advantage of experience. I simply can't wait to see it and get beyond all the talking.
 
So Coach Clark is a first year guy? Where's he from?

I always thought Jacksonville State had all the essentials to be one of the next power programs in the FCS... and if the OVC is rising, that's one more piece of the puzzle in place. I still have my doubts about your conference, but clearly the top end of the conference is competitive with anyone.

Eastern appears further ahead in terms of quality of program (in general, not necessarily saying one team is better at a given time, but in terms of general success), but Eastern is WAY BEHIND in terms of having facilities and infrastructure to support our football program. We've held it together with great coaches and being the most legit D-I alternative to the Pac12 programs in our area.

Is there any talk of possibly moving or integrating the SoCon? With GA Southern and App State gone, that conference suddenly is a steaming pile. Plus, you've got a top-heavy Big South with Coastal, Chuck South, and Liberty. You could almost meld the best 3 teams from each conference into one super-conference.
 
I think anyone replying to Big Fan over on their board is wasting their time. Here is his reply to JSUAlum (who, BTW, I would happily share a beer with any day) where he makes reference to GoEag's response (the last paragraph is the pertinent part). The most humorous aspect is how he tries so hard to be intellectual and comes off sounding like Buckwheat in Little Rascals (look it up, kids).

jsualumnus wrote:
Big_Fan wrote:
jsualumnus wrote:
I thought it was funny... All in good taste. I thoroughly enjoyed making one of their kickers look like Charlie Brown.

Big Fan... It's just a little fun. I've enjoyed their fans visiting our site. I haven't heard one nasty slam on us, and I haven't seen anything that down right degrades JSU. They truly believe they will stomp us, beat us silly, or put us in our place...and that's fine for them to believe...I know, as do some of their fans, that the game should be close and very good. If you have seen something I haven't then correct me if I'm wrong...luv ur passion!



They've been civil over here, but mentioned me by name over there... I figured if they mentioned me by name, I might as well give them something to mention me for . Now quiet down before you mess up my fishing.



As to the picture of the fish!...Got it.


Yep! CAUGHT ONE!

I am still laughing out loud at the "whoooosh!" sound the "states ending in 'ton'" made as it flew over his head. The obvious suplerfluousness of the comment was what made it funny... and the fact that it was received in the way it was made it priceless. It is even funnier that he observed the fallacy of ad hominem, but missed the intentional reductio ad absurdum vis-à-vis avoidance of fallacy of composition. It is a bit unorganized, but there is definitely composition and reductio.



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