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sperbeckplayer

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I am a former Sac State football player and I have never written on here before but have been reading this board for a while. I can see many of you are very upset in how the Hornet football program performed. There are some various things that would ask for a new coach but I believe there are various things that would make you keep him.

Bad:
5-7 Record, and pretty consistent with that.
Not beating Davis.

Good: I think we would agree that there are some good things.

Team is better then it has ever been at the FCS Level. Yes this is true. He is better than Volek and Mooshagian, Just Facts.

The graduation rate is better than it has ever been.
Yes this is true, graduation rate is better than the student population

APR is the best in the conference. For those of you that do not know what this is, this means retention of players, graduating players, and players being eligible. You get a total score and there we are. When I was a player we were the worst and in danger of losing our program.

I agree the Hornet Football team does need to win. But please have good reasons. Lets not bad mouth these coaches because I do know a couple of them. These are people.

Local Talent, Sacramento State signed 9 Local players last year. I heard they offered a number of them for this year. They can not make them commit over a San Jose or Fresno or some PAC 12 School, Please be real, I probably would have chose those schools as well.

I support which ever coach is in there at this time, If it is Sperbeck great, if not I will support the next one. That is what they need, not us griping on what they should be doing. Because bottom line you do not know. Either do I.
 
Thanks for your comments SperbeckPlayer and welcome to the baord.

Your make several good points. I don't think you'll get much of an argument from posters on this board about the current state of the program being leaps and bounds ahead of the Mooshagian years for example. We all agree academics are very important, and that there are many tangible improvements that Sperbeck has made that no other coach has in the history of the program.

However, for some of us, the negatives are far too difficult to let go. Coach Sperbeck has proven that he cannot field a good defensive staff or a legitimate special teams unit. His best move since coming on was the hire of Coach Peterson and relieving himself of the play calling duties. I think that move has worked out well and we have seen a smidge better game/clock management as a result. Still, we have lost too many close games though due to inability to make adjustments (being outcoached with superior talent), lacking a killer instinct, and pure boneheaded trick plays.

Retaining Sperbeck won't be the end of the world as much for me as it would be for some posters (thought I still believe we need a change in leadership to get us "over the hump".) If Coach is resigned for another 3 years (as is the belief), he'd better clean house on the defensive side of the ball.

Kadeezy's 2014 wish list:

-New D Coordinator
-New Special Teams coach
-New placekicker
-Transfer or JC power RB to compliment Robinson, Warren, and Coleman
-Transfer or JC WR with size
-Pray that 4 of our 5 OL return
-No more base nickel defense
-Transfer or JC MLB to replace Todd Davis if Cole Hannum isn't the answer
-RS Jihad Vercher and pray that he doesn't transfer
 
sperbeckplayer said:
I am a former Sac State football player and I have never written on here before but have been reading this board for a while. I can see many of you are very upset in how the Hornet football program performed. There are some various things that would ask for a new coach but I believe there are various things that would make you keep him.

Bad:
5-7 Record, and pretty consistent with that.
Not beating Davis.

Good: I think we would agree that there are some good things.

Team is better then it has ever been at the FCS Level. Yes this is true. He is better than Volek and Mooshagian, Just Facts.

The graduation rate is better than it has ever been.
Yes this is true, graduation rate is better than the student population

APR is the best in the conference. For those of you that do not know what this is, this means retention of players, graduating players, and players being eligible. You get a total score and there we are. When I was a player we were the worst and in danger of losing our program.

I agree the Hornet Football team does need to win. But please have good reasons. Lets not bad mouth these coaches because I do know a couple of them. These are people.

Local Talent, Sacramento State signed 9 Local players last year. I heard they offered a number of them for this year. They can not make them commit over a San Jose or Fresno or some PAC 12 School, Please be real, I probably would have chose those schools as well.

I support which ever coach is in there at this time, If it is Sperbeck great, if not I will support the next one. That is what they need, not us griping on what they should be doing. Because bottom line you do not know. Either do I.
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Good to have the perspective of someone who has been in the program. Perhaps a valid question then would be what will it take to get to the next level where both the players and fans want to be. I'm sure no player wants to be stuck in mediocrity on the field (at least I hope not). Winning is what every player and fan wants.

We've cleaned up the classroom and community issues as best as I can tell. That leaves the action/results on the field as the next issue. If you have some ideas on what it will take to make Sacramento State successful on the field, a lot of us would like to hear them. I know some of the coaches, too, and yes they are people hired to do a job. As in any profession, if you don't do your job there's a chance you get replaced by someone who can.
 
I like the response, another point in the program being better than ever, is let's not talk about past hornets like they were part of the good old days. There were no good old days so please stop bringing up John Osterhout or Otis Amey.

I can see the defensive staff is struggling. But the question I would ask is what happen to Nate Castro? Trevor Kelly? Not sure if you saw some of the D lineman that were inside? So they stack the box and then get burned in man to man. So let's hire some better recruiters.

Special team wise I didn't see anything great or truly that bad. The first kicker was a JC All American. Just struggled. The other kicker went 3-4. Seems like a young kicker with promise. Looking at Kelly's background he was a o line coach. So probably not the best pick. But with the last coach struggling and now Kelly not having a lot of success, maybe it's not priority.

We also struggled running the ball? Should we get rid of the NFC champion former SeaHawk coach? Who also had saffron running all over the place? I don't think so.

We get what we pay for, you can look up the coaches salaries. Let's not compare living in Sacramento as living in Missoula MT.

How about administration advertise a sac state game. Barley any sac state commercials during the causeway game. Maybe a sign somewhere in Sacramento. I though we had some new AD that is suppose to be everything. A golf tournament during football season, bad idea to me.

Let's talk about boosters. I do not have a lot of money but let's not say your 1,000 dollar do action is making that big of a difference. Do we all know how much it cost to run a college program?
 
sperbeckplayer said:
I like the response, another point in the program being better than ever, is let's not talk about past hornets like they were part of the good old days. There were no good old days so please stop bringing up John Osterhout or Otis Amey.
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Uh oh, prepared to get flamed.
 
You are probably right, a new coaching style may help. Whatever happens I would also like to say thank you to Coach Sperbeck for helping our program. Not just kick him to the curb like nothing.
 
sperbeckplayer said:
I like the response, another point in the program being better than ever, is let's not talk about past hornets like they were part of the good old days. There were no good old days so please stop bringing up John Osterhout or Otis Amey.

I can see the defensive staff is struggling. But the question I would ask is what happen to Nate Castro? Trevor Kelly? Not sure if you saw some of the D lineman that were inside? So they stack the box and then get burned in man to man. So let's hire some better recruiters.
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I think Castro got hurt early in the season and never returned. Medical redshirt in his future? Kelly had a breakthrough last season but fell off the roster in the offseason. I agree that our interior DL was not as solid as last season, it needs to be addressed this offseason.
Special team wise I didn't see anything great or truly that bad. The first kicker was a JC All American. Just struggled. The other kicker went 3-4. Seems like a young kicker with promise. Looking at Kelly's background he was a o line coach. So probably not the best pick. But with the last coach struggling and now Kelly not having a lot of success, maybe it's not priority.
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Aguilar was damn near perfect in the fall camp scrimmages, for whatever reason it didn’t carry over into the regular season. Bringing in Fred Kelley to coach ST was a bad move by Sperbeck. He had no ST experience coming in.
We also struggled running the ball? Should we get rid of the NFC champion former SeaHawk coach? Who also had saffron running all over the place? I don't think so.
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OL play was down under the new coach compared to under Riley in the previous couple seasons. We potentially return 4 of 5 starting OL so hopefully that unit improves next season.
We get what we pay for, you can look up the coaches salaries. Let's not compare living in Sacramento as living in Missoula MT.

How about administration advertise a sac state game. Barley any sac state commercials during the causeway game. Maybe a sign somewhere in Sacramento. I though we had some new AD that is suppose to be everything. A golf tournament during football season, bad idea to me.
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There were 15+ billboard ads put up in the Sac area in August advertising Hornet football. There was also outreach to local businesses and some press in both the Bee and on some morning TV shows leading up to the season. Believe it or not there was actually a coherent marketing effort leading up to the season. Plus there is the permanent digital sign on 50 that announces upcoming events (athletics and academic).
The golf tournament is the largest fundraising event for athletics and had a huge turnout. It’s not going away.
Let's talk about boosters. I do not have a lot of money but let's not say your 1,000 dollar do action is making that big of a difference. Do we all know how much it cost to run a college program?
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Every little bit helps for an athletic department like ours. Hornet athletics is in no position to take boosters for granted.
 
SP...Coach Sperbeck has been provided far more resources than any coach in the history of the program and has mismanaged them badly. One of the reasons he can't win, and there are multiple reasons, is that he can't build and/or retain a quality staff. That fact alone is grounds for his release. I don't want to hear he doesn't have a budget to hire quality coaches. He seems to be perfectly comfortable accepting $200K a year while that is a similar amount that the entire staff is paid on either side of the ball.
When the program comes up short in the area of recruiting the responsibility falls at his feet. Assistant coaches locate talent and open lines of communication...head coaches close deals...or not.
Your loyalty to the coaches you played for is admirable, but you seem to forget the coaches Sperbeck fired in the last seven years were people too. Some of them he brought in with him and others he told as he hired them away from other programs they had job security. Soon you will be witnessing some of those coaches you admire getting the ax from Coach Sperbeck in an attempt to save his own ass.
 
Of course they do, but that still doesn't make this a real D1 staff. Other than Bill, who on this staff including Marshall could coach (other than as a GA) at a true D1 school...as in Cal, Stanford, USC, Fresno...even Nevada?

I must be missing something.
 
Lets just hold on a second, do you really think none of these coaches will never coach at the BCS level? What evidence do you have? I will bet one leaves for BCS level this year
 
I would agree, there has been turnover every year with coaches going to D1 level. There has also been some really bad coaches who have really been bad and coached at D1 level or NFL, jerry glanville ring a bell?
 
OK...Klayton Adams, who burned the program by leaving for San Jose State on 48 hours notice. Who else has gone on to BCS programs? Who is going to go this year?
 
I will predict Paul Peterson, he had 2 interviews last year. It's just a matter of time. He coaches the QB with the most all purpose yards in the conference.
 
I know Riley and Daprato went to FCS jobs both are better jobs to top 5 teams in the country at the time of departure, other coaches that are gone. Josh Brown is the DC for Poly and was at Kansas after leaving Sac. The only other 3 guys that have left or let go are Remmington (Sierra JC) Osterhout (ARC) Baiz (Folsom) oh and Plemons went to Fresno State
 
Thank you for the list...excellent. So the answer to my question regarding the current staff is one, Peterson. Can't argue that one.
To be clear..Remington, Biaz and Osterhout were all fired by Sperbeck.
I can't say for sure about Daprato and Riley, but Plemmons and Brown couldn't wait to get out of here. That was my intended point regarding Sperbeck's inability to hire and maintain a quality staff.
 
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