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UM hasn't played in Ogden since 2012, and has gone 0-3 in their last three visits ('08, '10, and '12). Last Griz win in Ogden was in 2006. Over the last eight games in this series, the two teams have alternated wins, each going 4-4. I'm expecting a good tight game on Saturday that could go either way.
 
The Dan said:
Montana won 24-21 in Ogden in 2012.
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:lol: You are correct. Forget everything I said. Funny, cause now that I think about it, I remember that game, although I have tried to forget all of the Sears years.
 
SWeberCat02 said:
The Dan said:
Montana won 24-21 in Ogden in 2012.
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:lol: You are correct. Forget everything I said. Funny, cause now that I think about it, I remember that game, although I have tried to forget all of the Sears years.
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Yeah both teams were pretty awful back in 2012. UM finished 5-6 that year and came very close to losing to a very bad Weber team and going 4-7. Ogden hasn't been too friendly to UM since 2008, but then again there has only been 3 games since then. On the other hand, 2012 was the last time the Eagles played in Ogden and wont again till 2018, while Weber will have played 3 games in Cheney in the same time span.
 
I really don't know what to think about Montana. They really haven't played anyone. Yes, Washington, but that was an absolute butt-kicking. Other than Washington and Eastern, the Griz schedule has been definitely lacking in competitiveness. The combined record for the opponents the Griz have beaten is 9-28. They have one tough road win played in the Potato Barn on the campus of ISU (a game the Griz were lucky to pull out a W in). And have lost at WA-Griz against the Eastern Eagles. They can put up points, but so can the competition.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
I really don't know what to think about Montana. They really haven't played anyone. Yes, Washington, but that was an absolute butt-kicking. Other than Washington and Eastern, the Griz schedule has been definitely lacking in competitiveness. The combined record for the opponents the Griz have beaten is 9-28. They have one tough road win played in the Potato Barn on the campus of ISU (a game the Griz were lucky to pull out a W in). And have lost at WA-Griz against the Eastern Eagles. They can put up points, but so can the competition.
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Honestly, I don't know what to think about us right now either. We have looked really good in stretches and quite bad in others. Our D can lock things down most of the time and make huge mistakes every once in a while. Our D was not good against SUU. The same can be said for what our O has done over the season so far. I would love to see a complete game again. :coffee:
 
SWeberCat02 said:
Montana should be without their starting Safety after being arrested for assault.
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That could end up being pretty big for them, Strong is a stud, and his case does not look good.
 
WILDCAT said:
SWeberCat02 said:
Montana should be without their starting Safety after being arrested for assault.
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That could end up being pretty big for them, Strong is a stud, and his case does not look good.
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It's being confirmed by Colter that Strong won't be with the team on Saturday
 
Some history on the Weber State / Montana rivalry series. (both weberstatesports and gogriz called it a rivalry so I'm sticking to it)

Spoilers, it's ugly from a Weber p.o.v.

The Griz lead the series 40-14, (including a 18-7 lead in Ogden), and have won 22 of the last 27 games.

From 1988 to 2007 The Griz won 17 of the 19 games, however since 2008 the series is a little closer with Montana only leading 5-3. Only one of those 5 Griz wins came out of Stewart Stadium.

This is Montana's first trip to Ogden since 2012 (Weber has been to Missoula twice in that same span of time) and are 1-2 in the last three played in Stewart Stadium.

Montana comes in at 2nd most games played against by Weber in their history with 54 games. Only Idaho State has been played more by Weber State with 55 games, Montana State is 3rd at 53 games and NAU is 4th at 51 games.
 
Games against the Griz are usually won in the trenches. This year's contest might be a bit different. The Griz are going to throw the ball a lot. Weber's secondary will need to be ready. I think forcing Montana into a one-dimensional team is a step in the right direction. So, the defensive line will need to control the line of scrimmage, but nonetheless, the Cats secondary is going to have to show up and prove how good they really are. We have the talent to shut down a pass happy offense and the defensive line to control the line of scrimmage. Offensively, our hogs just need to keep playing tough and moving the ball. We aren't going to change things up for Montana. Keys to victory? Hold onto the ball, keep things two-dimensional, and shut down Montana's passing game.
 
HI All, posted here a few times before but I will introduce myself as I am a newbie. Played here at WSU and have been following the program since. Hopefully will be a bit more active in my posting moving forward. I usually try and make it down to Ogden for a game once or twice a year and will be at the Montana game this weekend.

Keys to the game, in my opinion, are the red zone. Seems as if our offense has been sluggish in the red zone and ended a lot of drives in FG's. 12 of our 27 red-zone scores have been FGs.

Montana is #1 the country in offensive red zone percentage and has only 7 FGs accounting for there 31 red zone scores.

With all that being said we are tied for 1st in the country in defensive red zone percentage. Should be a great battle overall and always physical with Montana!
 
shelMr said:
HI All, posted here a few times before but I will introduce myself as I am a newbie. Played here at WSU and have been following the program since. Hopefully will be a bit more active in my posting moving forward. I usually try and make it down to Ogden for a game once or twice a year and will be at the Montana game this weekend.

Keys to the game, in my opinion, are the red zone. Seems as if our offense has been sluggish in the red zone and ended a lot of drives in FG's. 12 of our 27 red-zone scores have been FGs.

Montana is #1 the country in offensive red zone percentage and has only 7 FGs accounting for there 31 red zone scores.

With all that being said we are tied for 1st in the country in defensive red zone percentage. Should be a great battle overall and always physical with Montana!
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We could always use new posters on the board, don't be a stranger. :thumb:

And you're absolutely right, this game is going to come down to who does better in their redzone opportunities. Also if we can make the Griz a one dimension team like we did with Davis, we can make it all that much easier on our defense and we can pin our ears back and just go after them.
 
The only area that Coach Hill's teams have seemed to struggle with is scoring TD's in the red zone. Thankfully this season we have a kicker who is good and hits at an extremely high percentage. But, getting 6 is a lot better than 3. This week I'm really hoping we can be a bit better at getting the ball into the end zone for TDs. Our defense will do its thing and between the 20s, I have a feeling so will our offense. I just don't want to see the Cats having to start deep in their territory like they had to at Poly and it would be awesome to see us finish drives with TDs. What should scare teams, is the fact that Weber still hasn't put together a complete game. The offense has the potential to score 40+ a game and the defense is shut down. If both played a complete game, YIKES!
 
talhadfoursteals said:
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What should scare teams, is the fact that Weber still hasn't put together a complete game. The offense has the potential to score 40+ a game and the defense is shut down. If both played a complete game, YIKES!
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Ya, don't mean to be overly pessimistic but I see it differently. Weber came out of the gates strong and I think more ready to go than most teams. I think other teams, including Montana, have been figuring things out and improving each week. I don't know what happened with Weber during their BYE week but something did (on both sides of the ball). SUU wrecked them and IMO exposed some misleading statistics for the season. Cantwell going down was huge but should not have affected the D the way it did, or the ability to run the ball much more effective than they did. CP is certainly not devoid of talent and I think better than their record indicates but Weber still struggled mightily offensively. Defensively, Weber was able to capitalize on CP being without their QB.

Looking at the two post-BYE games (vsSUU & @CP) and comparing all main offensive and defensive statistics with the two games (@MSU & vsUCD) prior to the BYE, it paints a clear picture between the early optimism and worry from here on out. Offensive stats for Weber are dominant before the BYE and a huge drop-off after. Defensively, there is more balance but only because of the strong numbers in the @CP game. The thing is, I'd put more combined weight in @MSU/vsUCD over vsSUU/@CP. Add this to Weber's SOS to finish the season and I have a lot of worry about vsUM and where they could finish. :twocents:
 
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