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NCAA rules, transfers, etc.

FasterThanYou

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Of course Chris Martin got me thinking, but I'm trying to understand the transfer rules.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2009-09-05/new-transfer-rule-leading-more-talent-d-ii" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...05/new-transfer-rule-leading-more-talent-d-ii

The article is about how some players end up going to Div. II, but has info about transfers in general.

"Previously, players who met the requirements of the one-time transfer exception could go to FCS schools and play right away regardless of how many years of eligibility they had remaining. Now players with one year left must decide between toughing out often difficult situations at their big-name programs or stepping down to Division II and taking a chance at regional schools such as Central Washington, North Alabama or West Texas A&M.

The NCAA said it changed the rule over concern players were transferring for purely athletic reasons and a "market" for top-tier talent had been created by FCS schools seeking one-year hired guns. To make sure athletes are committed to the schools, they now must have at least two years of eligibility remaining to be allowed to play right away."

Martin should have two years left, so he has more options. But a player who wants to move to a Div I school still has to sit out a year. Exception: if he has he undergraduate degree and the new school offers a graduate degree that isn't offered where he played the first years of football.

I'm still a little confused about the transfer rule, though. anybody know the answers?
 
FasterThanYou said:
Of course Chris Martin got me thinking, but I'm trying to understand the transfer rules.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2009-09-05/new-transfer-rule-leading-more-talent-d-ii" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...05/new-transfer-rule-leading-more-talent-d-ii

The article is about how some players end up going to Div. II, but has info about transfers in general.

"Previously, players who met the requirements of the one-time transfer exception could go to FCS schools and play right away regardless of how many years of eligibility they had remaining. Now players with one year left must decide between toughing out often difficult situations at their big-name programs or stepping down to Division II and taking a chance at regional schools such as Central Washington, North Alabama or West Texas A&M.

The NCAA said it changed the rule over concern players were transferring for purely athletic reasons and a "market" for top-tier talent had been created by FCS schools seeking one-year hired guns. To make sure athletes are committed to the schools, they now must have at least two years of eligibility remaining to be allowed to play right away."

Martin should have two years left, so he has more options. But a player who wants to move to a Div I school still has to sit out a year. Exception: if he has he undergraduate degree and the new school offers a graduate degree that isn't offered where he played the first years of football.

I'm still a little confused about the transfer rule, though. anybody know the answers?

There are certain exceptions the NCAA will allow if he wants to transfer to an FBS school and not sit out next year. If he wants to play right away he needs to go to an FCS or D2 school. I really think we might have a good shot at this kid. Coach Collins has a good track record of mentoring young African American kids that might be a little off track. He would destroy Big Sky QB's. We already have a nice defensive line, he would only add more. Go get him now.
 
Bears need to make up for the loss of Jace Davis somehow. How could he let this happen - if it's true? When will these guys realize that they're not just letting themselves down (by not being academically eligible) but all their teammates and fans too. What a blow!
 
#1bearsfan said:
Bears need to make up for the loss of Jace Davis somehow. How could he let this happen - if it's true? When will these guys realize that they're not just letting themselves down (by not being academically eligible) but all their teammates and fans too. What a blow!

I realize the bottom line rests with the player not getting it done in the classroom, but shouldn't there be some regular checkpoints when the athletic dept. staff makes sure nobody is slipping behind?

College isn't easy. We shouldn't let a player struggle and fall behind if he need help with how to organize his studying, getting things done, or whatever. Damn shame about Jace.
 
FasterThanYou said:
#1bearsfan said:
Bears need to make up for the loss of Jace Davis somehow. How could he let this happen - if it's true? When will these guys realize that they're not just letting themselves down (by not being academically eligible) but all their teammates and fans too. What a blow!

I realize the bottom line rests with the player not getting it done in the classroom, but shouldn't there be some regular checkpoints when the athletic dept. staff makes sure nobody is slipping behind?

College isn't easy. We shouldn't let a player struggle and fall behind if he need help with how to organize his studying, getting things done, or whatever. Damn shame about Jace.


From my understanding Scott did a pretty good job of making sure the players went to class and stayed out of trouble. This happens at every school. Montana State is losing their top rusher from last year because of academics. Does anyone know if this is a fur sure thing with Jace? I talked to him during the spring and he was registered for classes this summer to make up the grades, but that was during the spring so anything could have happened. Also, I'm not sure if their scholarships cover summer courses, that might have been an issue too.
 
FasterThanYou said:
College isn't easy. We shouldn't let a player struggle and fall behind if he need help with how to organize his studying, getting things done, or whatever. Damn shame about Jace.

Come on, college is like daycare except without the teachers to tell you to keep from sticking paperclips in the electrical outlets. They are a bunch of ids running around with nothing to worry about except making sure they are sufficiently stocked with beer and not to be late for the bongolympics. That applies to every major, just some more than others and, for some reason, I doubt he was majoring in molecular physics. If a student can't keep a D average, there is nothing anybody can do for him.
 
jjjj said:
FasterThanYou said:
College isn't easy. We shouldn't let a player struggle and fall behind if he need help with how to organize his studying, getting things done, or whatever. Damn shame about Jace.

Come on, college is like daycare except without the teachers to tell you to keep from sticking paperclips in the electrical outlets. They are a bunch of ids running around with nothing to worry about except making sure they are sufficiently stocked with beer and not to be late for the bongolympics. That applies to every major, just some more than others and, for some reason, I doubt he was majoring in molecular physics. If a student can't keep a D average, there is nothing anybody can do for him.

I believe the requirement is a C average. These kids do have a lot of demands on their time especially during the season with lifting, meetings, practice and travel. But, they also have resources and guidance available to them for their academic success. It's not easy but with all that's at stake, especially for a talent like Jace, these kids should be able to at least remain eligible.
 

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