Nevada Wolfpack

[Da Bears]

Weber takes on Nevada today, loser wins last place at the Paradise Jam tourney! Bolomboy has had a great tourney, but hasn't had a lot of support from his teammates. Hopefully the Paradise Jam website will be operational. No doubt the team is young, but guard play has been worse than expected!

Game is this morning at 11:30 am!

 

[n.ogdencat]

A win would even up the series with the Wolfpack (a former Big Sky rival). There have been some really amazing games between these teams. Hopefully the Cats can hold onto the ball and get the W. Weber has averaged 18 TOs in the tournament. Agreed Mycats, Bolomboy has been spectacular in many facets of the game, but he has averaged 5+ TOs a game. That is a terrible number and he has to cut that down. On a positive note...Illinois State is in the championship game facing Seton Hall. Guess the first nights loss wasn't as bad as it originally looked.

Areas of concern: Turnovers...this is killing the Cats, we all know this team can be really good, but they won't be until they get a handle on their turnovers. Poor ball movement. When the Cats are holding onto the ball there is little imagination and movement on offense. The Cats have been known to be a program that is characterized by unselfishness, but this group seem like individuals rather than a team. Really need to play team ball and make the extra pass. make the play that will help the team, not pad your stats. Chris Golden...we desperately need him to find his shot. Yes, I realize he is new to the team and adjusting to a higher level of play, but he is a junior who came to Weber with a lot of upside. The Cats really need him to show up and start hitting his shots. Akoon-Purcell for ISU was amazing on Friday night and has been really strong the entire tournament. He is a JC transfer for the Redbirds. Weber needs to get him in a groove. He is clearly an excellent player and has quite the shooting ability, now the Cats just need to build some confidence and his game should take off.

 

[n.ogdencat]

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This might be a better link...just in case the paradisejam.com site is again down.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Golden needs to stop being hesitant and just play his damn game.

 

[n.ogdencat]

HOLD ONTO THE DAMN BALL and play some flippin defense

 

[n.ogdencat]

We are bad.

 

[Da Bears]

Even the announcers are critical of Senglin! He's just out of control and taking I'll advised shots.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

Very ugly but somehow came back and stole the lead at the half. I saw some sharing of the ball but I also saw some of the same selfish play in that first half. 3-on-1 Weber break results in a (unforced) turnover-- bad! The turnovers have been bad so far this season but Weber's being out rebounded badly and this is the third straight game they've been losing that battle-- I can't count Presentation as a comparison for anything, and they did win the battle of boards in Logan but maybe wouldn't have if the game were 5 minutes longer. You can see talent in them but they look to have such a long way to go before looking like a good team, there are so many problems right now. :-(

 

[hawkssb04]

Senglin with the dagger. So happy to see him break out of his early-season slump. :thumb:

 

[n.ogdencat]

Well, it wasn't pretty, but the Cats got it done. A win is a win. Weber has now, from what I am aware of, evened up the series record with Nevada. Also, beating a Mountain West team is always nice.

That was the good stuff now the UGLY: getting out redounded by 20 is a really bad sign. Also, 7 total assists. Ugh!! Only 13 TOs, so that is an improvement and the Cats forced 17 TOs, but then allowed the Wolfpack to grab 18 offensive rebounds. That is 18 more chances to score, where the Wildcats only had 5 offensive boards. Heavens!!

 

[Midmajor??]

Senglin with the dagger. So happy to see him break out of his early-season slump. :thumb:

Are you kidding? He's a team killer with his bull in the China shop and get mine first mentality. They should bench him and let hunter run the point! It's going to be a long year with a shoot first point guard! He's an important member of the team, but the team needs him to put team first!

Lots of talent, but can't believe the that he's 3-1 on a break and he jacks the three!

 

[WeberSki]

Senglin with the dagger. So happy to see him break out of his early-season slump. :thumb:

Are you kidding? He's a team killer with his bull in the China shop and get mine first mentality. They should bench him and let hunter run the point! It's going to be a long year with a shoot first point guard! He's an important member of the team, but the team needs him to put team first!

Lots of talent, but can't believe the that he's 3-1 on a break and he jacks the three!

What would you call Lillard? Yes, Senglin must make much better decisions, and share the ball much more and aggressively look to Assist, but we need his scoring punch, especially until Golden figures things out. We need 3-4 3's from Golden each game 3/14 isn't going to cut it.

 

[WSUProf]

Senglin with the dagger. So happy to see him break out of his early-season slump. :thumb:

Are you kidding? He's a team killer with his bull in the China shop and get mine first mentality. They should bench him and let hunter run the point! It's going to be a long year with a shoot first point guard! He's an important member of the team, but the team needs him to put team first!

Lots of talent, but can't believe the that he's 3-1 on a break and he jacks the three!

I didn't get to see the game, but looking at the box score I'm wondering what I'm missing. 1 turnover, 2 assists, 5-9 from the field, 3-5 from three, and 3-4 from the line. This does not look like the stat line of a team killer. Nor does it look like the stat line of someone who needs to be benched. I'm sorry, but I want Senglin taking at least 9 shots from the field and at least 5 from 3 point range. Weber will need him to score 15 a game.

 

[Itiger]

Senglin with the dagger. So happy to see him break out of his early-season slump. :thumb:

Are you kidding? He's a team killer with his bull in the China shop and get mine first mentality. They should bench him and let hunter run the point! It's going to be a long year with a shoot first point guard! He's an important member of the team, but the team needs him to put team first!

Lots of talent, but can't believe the that he's 3-1 on a break and he jacks the three!

I didn't get to see the game, but looking at the box score I'm wondering what I'm missing. 1 turnover, 2 assists, 5-9 from the field, 3-5 from three, and 3-4 from the line. This does not look like the stat line of a team killer. Nor does it look like the stat line of someone who needs to be benched. I'm sorry, but I want Senglin taking at least 9 shots from the field and at least 5 from 3 point range. Weber will need him to score 15 a game.

I'm not saying to bench him, but he does need to run the offense. Weber currently is struggling. Today was the first win against a D-1 team. Turnovers are high, very high and assist are low. Weber is not able to get in its offense and it looks more chaotic than a smooth. What your missing is that he's not making an effort to get his teammates involved. He's going to get his points, but Weber will not be successful if only Senglin and Bolomboy score. It's going to take a team effort! Senglin is the quarterback of the team. Damian wasn't against making a pass and took pride in running the team. I hope we see a different style Monday night, but this was not a great Weekend for Weber Basketball.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

Senglin with the dagger. So happy to see him break out of his early-season slump. :thumb:

Are you kidding? He's a team killer with his bull in the China shop and get mine first mentality. They should bench him and let hunter run the point! It's going to be a long year with a shoot first point guard! He's an important member of the team, but the team needs him to put team first!

Lots of talent, but can't believe the that he's 3-1 on a break and he jacks the three!

I didn't get to see the game, but looking at the box score I'm wondering what I'm missing. 1 turnover, 2 assists, 5-9 from the field, 3-5 from three, and 3-4 from the line. This does not look like the stat line of a team killer. Nor does it look like the stat line of someone who needs to be benched. I'm sorry, but I want Senglin taking at least 9 shots from the field and at least 5 from 3 point range. Weber will need him to score 15 a game.

He did indeed have a good game and they, quite probably, lose it without him. He did have a bad turnover-- I thought I saw 2-3 from him, guess not-- and still had a few drives without much control but did better overall. WeberSki is on point with Lillard being a shoot first PG, however, I remember Lillard seeing the floor better and making better decisions, whereas, Senglin has seemed more determined to take it himself.

I agree Senglin needs to shoot the ball but he does need to see the floor better and be able to make better decisions of when to dish it off. Along the same lines, he needs control when he drives and better gauge the quickness of the help D. I saw Golden making some of the same mistakes that Senglin has been taking heat for. I thought Coston played better today. He picked up a few fouls but I thought he did a decent job defensively and seemed to have taken a step, albeit a small one. I think Hunter grew some in this game too. Hopefully, these small improvements continue consistently.

 

[Wildcat_Fan]

We cannot compare Lillard to Senglin at all. Rahe had the offense to run through Dame. If I remember correctly he specifically input the pick and roll offense just to give Dame the look for the NBA. We dont run that same offense now. Rahe big selling point this year was on any given night anyone could have a break out game. Senglin should be the QB of the team and with the athletic ability of the team he should average at least 6 assists a night.

 

[UtahPirate]

Passing is an innate talent. It is very hard to teach and I think one of the rarest and the most overlooked skills in the game. Some kids see the court well and how everything develops, and others just don't. Assists can come from running an offense that opens up shots -- and players without that innate ability will pick up assists as everything smooths out and we get our offense running better. But until then we are going to have trouble as the only player I see that has that innate passing ability is Hunter. He sees the floor, but he's really young. When he and Senglin are in the lineup together, I really like how the team runs. I think you'll see Hunter's play time increase as he gets used to the offense. I also think you'll see Senglin settle in to his role, even though he is a shoot first guard. Lillard was rare as he had that innate passing ability and the ability to score. Dame's game efficiency was off the charts because of that.

I talked with Tal at the last home game and he made the observation that he thought Senglin was trying to lead and trying too hard to carry the team. I think he is on to something as I have a feeling Senglin is really trying to take a leadership role -- that he feels some pressure to do so. He's a good player and I think he'll start relaxing as the season wears on. Hopefully his last shot yesterday will help in the process.

 

[Da Bears]

Agree, but from watching the games, it really seems like Senglin plays like he needs to beat each of the 5 defenders for Weber to score. He constantly dives into the paint out of control and my concern is that making that 3 to win the game is only going to make it worse! The key to Weber's success this season is getting Golden to take and make his shots. The floor will open like the Red Sea if he gets going.

Senglin has talent there's no doubt about it, but as the PG his responsibility is to lead the offense. I think Weber is most out of whack when he tries to BE the offense. Hill, Gittens and Golden have more to offer than what they've provided so far this season. Senglin needs to focus on getting them into the mix. The pure point guard on the team is Hunter! His DNA is pass first, but he can score if needed. The bench has been nonexistent. I realize that Rahe's style is to have a short bench, but there's a drop in scoring power when we substitute. Bringing Gittens or Senglin off the bench will only improve the team. Look at the contributions of the three players off the bench (Hunter, JC and Hajek) they really haven't helped on offense and Richardson and Van Pelt have not seen the court in the last 3 games.

Our Starters are playing approx. 30-32 minutes a game. We are one injury away from disaster. Weber's depth is not what we expected this season. What was suppose to be a strength just doesn't exist. We are known for coming together during conference play! Let's hope that yesterday's win is a step in the right direction.

 

[WeberSki]

Agree, but from watching the games, it really seems like Senglin plays like he needs to beat each of the 5 defenders for Weber to score. He constantly dives into the paint out of control and my concern is that making that 3 to win the game is only going to make it worse! The key to Weber's success this season is getting Golden to take and make his shots. The floor will open like the Red Sea if he gets going.

Senglin has talent there's no doubt about it, but as the PG his responsibility is to lead the offense. I think Weber is most out of whack when he tries to BE the offense. Hill, Gittens and Golden have more to offer than what they've provided so far this season. Senglin needs to focus on getting them into the mix. The pure point guard on the team is Hunter! His DNA is pass first, but he can score if needed. The bench has been nonexistent. I realize that Rahe's style is to have a short bench, but there's a drop in scoring power when we substitute. Bringing Gittens or Senglin off the bench will only improve the team. Look at the contributions of the three players off the bench (Hunter, JC and Hajek) they really haven't helped on offense and Richardson and Van Pelt have not seen the court in the last 3 games.

Our Starters are playing approx. 30-32 minutes a game. We are one injury away from disaster. Weber's depth is not what we expected this season. What was suppose to be a strength just doesn't exist. We are known for coming together during conference play! Let's hope that yesterday's win is a step in the right direction.

Like I stated earlier Golden is KEY in this system. I believe his shots will start to fall at rapid pace sooner than later. No question Senglin needs to take a deep breath, quit pressing and get Hill, Gittens, and especially Golden involved, but you lose me completely with the Senglin, Gittens off the bench.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Honestly, the worst example for Senglin was Berry. Davion could drive to the rim and finish. When Weber needed a bucket, in most cases, the team could count on Dev to get a bucket for the Cats. He was instant offense. I feel Senglin thinks he needs to be the Berry of the team now. One thing about Berry that Senglin is still developing is the ability to pass. Berry knew how to pass if the defense collapsed on him. He knew how to keep defenses honest. He was great at getting to the rim, but also, he was pretty good at seeing the floor and making the pass.

Too many times yesterday our guards drove the lane and Nevada collapsed in on them. Only once did I see a great pass to keep the defense honest, and that was Hunter. I really feel that Senglin thinks he is the team leader so he needs to attack the rim like Dev did. Senglin doesn't have the same abilities as Dev. Because of Dev's size, he could attract calls far easier than Senglin is able to. Look at the number of FT attempts Dev had a game. He was a master at getting to the line. Senglin just isn't there. We all know he is trying and I feel he has improved his play, but it seems he is a bit selfish. We need our guards passing more. Good crisp passing will open up the floor and give the Cats easy shots. Rahe preaches this, give up a good shot for a great shot.