New commit - Abdulsamad Zaid

[n.ogdencat]

Totally agree Oldrunner. Weber needs more heigth and length at the 3. Yes, they have Hill joining the team next fall and then the kid from Idaho/Rexburg the fall after. Both are truer SF's, who are athletic and can move with and without the ball. The more Hill focuses on basketball the better he is getting. Good thing the Cats got him signed this fall, he could have gone to a bigger program after his SR season. He has really blown up, same with Bolomboy.

Of course, the Cats have Berry, who is going to be starting at the 3 next year, and in emergencies they can use Mook, or Brown (if he doesn't redshirt) at the 3, however, Mook is a definite PF, and Brown, even though is tough as nails, isn't a 3 (in Rahe's system it works though). Fulton is too slow to play the 3, but in emergencies, he could do it. Personally, I think the Cats need a tweener who is between a 3 and a 4. Someone who is 6-5 or 6-6; Nic Sparrow esque.

So the Cats are for sure losing 2: Mahoney about 25min a game & Bullinger about 30min a game, and possibly losing Dame (Possibly...looooooool); 35+ min a game. Will either Bolomboy or Hill get more than 15min a game next year? Mook and Fulton will be expected to play more mins, but ever with them on the court more, I don't see how either can redshirt. If either does, the Cats will be really thin in the front court.

Bam will get 30+min next year, Wheels around 25 - 30min, Rich 25 - 30min, which leaves about 40 mins of guard play open. That could be enough for two more guards, if Brown redshirts. If he doesn't, I could see him anywhere from 10min a game to 20min. Also, from what I can see, the Cats only has 1 true PG (J-Rich). Yes, Gelaun is going to be our PG, and Zaid and Bamforth can play it, but...Betran and Sobey are both SGs. Who knows...Jalen Washington is 6-5/6-6.

 

[oldrunner]

Tal;

Here is the thing. Berry can play the 2 just as easily as the 3. Hill can probably only play one position his freshman year. Simply because of how much he would have to learn, just for that. Same with Bolomboy. Although, the 4 and 5 are a little more interchangable than the 3 and 4 in Randy's system. My point is that our bigs are not good enough rebounders that we can afford to have a non-rebounder at the 3. Wheelright is our point guard next year and he will be backed up by Richardson. I'm not concerned about the 1s or 2s. We have it covered. We have got to solve the rebounding and interior defense issues if we want a championship.

Randy only plays 9 or 10 players. That leaves 3 or 4 scholarship players and some walk ons twiddling their thumbs on the bench. Granted, you need those guys for practice and as insurance, in case anyone gets injured. The only way I can see it being benneficial to bring more guards in is if we become a pressing team and use more guards. We might need to do that if we can't rebound.

I think Bolomboy may be a starter before the year is over, if he continues to rebound the way he has in HS. Same could be said for Hill. :twocents:

 

[WeberSki]

Totally agree Oldrunner. Weber needs more heigth and length at the 3. Yes, they have Hill joining the team next fall and then the kid from Idaho/Rexburg the fall after. Both are truer SF's, who are athletic and can move with and without the ball. The more Hill focuses on basketball the better he is getting. Good thing the Cats got him signed this fall, he could have gone to a bigger program after his SR season. He has really blown up, same with Bolomboy.

Of course, the Cats have Berry, who is going to be starting at the 3 next year, and in emergencies they can use Mook, or Brown (if he doesn't redshirt) at the 3, however, Mook is a definite PF, and Brown, even though is tough as nails, isn't a 3 (in Rahe's system it works though). Fulton is too slow to play the 3, but in emergencies, he could do it. Personally, I think the Cats need a tweener who is between a 3 and a 4. Someone who is 6-5 or 6-6; Nic Sparrow esque.

So the Cats are for sure losing 2: Mahoney about 25min a game & Bullinger about 30min a game, and possibly losing Dame (Possibly...looooooool); 35+ min a game. Will either Bolomboy or Hill get more than 15min a game next year? Mook and Fulton will be expected to play more mins, but ever with them on the court more, I don't see how either can redshirt. If either does, the Cats will be really thin in the front court.

Bam will get 30+min next year, Wheels around 25 - 30min, Rich 25 - 30min, which leaves about 40 mins of guard play open. That could be enough for two more guards, if Brown redshirts. If he doesn't, I could see him anywhere from 10min a game to 20min. Also, from what I can see, the Cats only has 1 true PG (J-Rich). Yes, Gelaun is going to be our PG, and Zaid and Bamforth can play it, but...Betran and Sobey are both SGs. Who knows...Jalen Washington is 6-5/6-6.

just curious how is G Wheels not a true PG? I don't think there is anyway J Rich plays 30 mins next year. I also don't think Brown suits up at all. Redshirt or gonzo. We've seen more minutes from local walkons in garbage time than Brown got this year. I stated quite a while ago, but one of the legacy's Dame is leaving @ Weber is the importance of hard work, & putting the time in at the gym. Wheelwright grasped it from Dame, & Shai Fields didn't. Wheelwright will have a special year next year, while Fields is playing at Lamar State junior college wondering if he'll ever get another shot to play D-1.

 

[WeberSki]

Tal;

Here is the thing. Berry can play the 2 just as easily as the 3. Hill can probably only play one position his freshman year. Simply because of how much he would have to learn, just for that. Same with Bolomboy. Although, the 4 and 5 are a little more interchangable than the 3 and 4 in Randy's system. My point is that our bigs are not good enough rebounders that we can afford to have a non-rebounder at the 3. Wheelright is our point guard next year and he will be backed up by Richardson. I'm not concerned about the 1s or 2s. We have it covered. We have got to solve the rebounding and interior defense issues if we want a championship.

Randy only plays 9 or 10 players. That leaves 3 or 4 scholarship players and some walk ons twiddling their thumbs on the bench. Granted, you need those guys for practice and as insurance, in case anyone gets injured. The only way I can see it being benneficial to bring more guards in is if we become a pressing team and use more guards. We might need to do that if we can't rebound.

I think Bolomboy may be a starter before the year is over, if he continues to rebound the way he has in HS. Same could be said for Hill. :twocents:

We are definately set at 1-3, with Zaid possibly first off the bench filling in anywhere there, a log jam @ 4 Otis, Fulton, & Bolomboy fighting for pt, & maybe Hajek in his 3rd year in the program giving Tresnak a push or pt, especially if he shows he has the heart, & knack to rebound better than Tres...

 

[WeberSki]

If Hill is not quite ready to contribute, a solid backup to Berry @ the 3.. has got to be the biggest priority and just to make oldrunner mad, dare I say somebody like Frank Session w/out the attitude.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Wheels is more than capable to be a PG. In high school, it was PG by committee rather than having a single guy play the PG. I guess that is part of Rahe's offense too. So, it is no wonder why Wheels fits into Rahe's system well, but I'm sure if it came down to him being the #1 guy...he definitely will be able to do it. http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/DYv-4qv_xUKTbaw-PZnOVg/basketball-winter-10-11/profile-gelaun-wheelwright.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (he ended up the 8th best player in Cali). For having his RS burned, he ended up having a great year.

Whoops...yeah, I didn't mean to put J-Rich down for 30. He will get 15-20, he is the first guy off the bench depending on how good Zaid is. Zaid can play either the 1 or 2. He might even be called upon to play the 3 at times. Berry, he is our next 3. Yes, he is a definite 2, at other institutions, but Rahe has said numerous times that he will be taking Bull's spot. I don't see how that will improve our rebounding, but... As for Brown, it would be a total shame if he leaves. He has a nice touch and is an excellent shooter. A RS year, as a soph, will be hard, but worth it in the end for him, if that is his end decision. Look at Preston Medlin at USU. I think Brown has the same abilities and could end up being a huge part of the team in the future.

Too bad for Fields. He is extremely talented and will end up at a DI school, but until he curbs his attitude and takes direction he will never grasp his full potential.

 

[n.ogdencat]

If Hill is not quite ready to contribute, a solid backup to Berry @ the 3.. has got to be the biggest priority and just to make oldrunner mad, dare I say somebody like Frank Session w/out the attitude.

I guess we will see what the coaching staff thinks of his progress this year, by who they recruit this spring. I liked Session. He was an athletic freak. He might have been 6-2, but was lanky and could jump out of the gym. I'd take a Session any day of the week. Weber would have won the Big Sky Championship in 10-11 with him.

I could see Mook or Fulton playing the 3 if needed. It would be better the save them at the 4. I could see Bolomboy playing, not next year of course, but in the future the 3, 4, or 5. He is that athletic, at least from what I have seen and heard about him.

 

[oldrunner]

If he would have played defense and only shot when it was a dunk I would have loved Session. He was a great rebounder. Can you imagine his ability in a bigger body, with a good head on its shoulders. WOW. The problem with Fraklin was that the negatives overshadowed the positives. Can you even think about Tres with that desire to rebound. And, leaping ability has very little to do with it. I'm hoping that Berry can rebound. If he can't, we are in trouble. :yikes:

 

[oldrunner]

Everyone is talking like Zaid is a done deal. I doin't believe that it is. I will believe it when it is anounced in the paper that he has signed. Until then, we may or may not even be talking to the kid. There could be 20 players, that none of us have heard of, that we are talking to right now. I think it is a very fluid situation for the next few weeks. :stir:

 

[WeberSki]

Everyone is talking like Zaid is a done deal. I doin't believe that it is. I will believe it when it is anounced in the paper that he has signed. Until then, we may or may not even be talking to the kid. There could be 20 players, that none of us have heard of, that we are talking to right now. I think it is a very fluid situation for the next few weeks. :stir:

you're going to wait for confirmation from Roy Burton & the Standard :lol: He's usually a solid 2 weeks late to the party.

It's a done deal, unless he changes his mind, or we pull it for some crazy reason.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Everyone is talking like Zaid is a done deal. I doin't believe that it is. I will believe it when it is anounced in the paper that he has signed. Until then, we may or may not even be talking to the kid. There could be 20 players, that none of us have heard of, that we are talking to right now. I think it is a very fluid situation for the next few weeks. :stir:

you're going to wait for confirmation from Roy Burton & the Standard :lol: He's usually a solid 2 weeks late to the party.

It's a done deal, unless he changes his mind, or we pull it for some crazy reason.

:lol: To be fair to Roy, it isn't totally his fault. He can only print what Athletics gives him to print, and they can't do anything till the student athlete actually signs. Yes, once an athlete commits, he/she can tell the media who can then print it, but it isn't official till the school receives and notarizes the LOI. But...yeah, Zaid has committed to Weber. Yes things can change, will they? Most likely not gonna happen, but strange things happen all the time.

 

[wazzuwildcat03]

Usually when Weber gets a commit there is a small write up in the Standard, but there has been nothing yet on Zaid. Maybe its not a done deal yet so who knows. Im still curious why the coaches are recruiting 2 JC tweener guard players with our current roster. Im going to assume both commit to us so this is what our depth chart will look like in my opinion.

1. Wheelright SO. 2. Bamforth SR. 3. Berry JR. 4. Otis SR. 5. Tresnak JR.
Richardson JR. Zaid JR. Sobey JR. Fulton JR. Hajek SO.
Brown SO (Redshirt) Hill FR. Bolomboy FR.

This is all speculation on my part, but I woiuld have liked to see Weber get a D1 small forward type transfer player to redshirt, but I trust Coach Rahe so Im sure it will all be fine. It will be a intersting off season.

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

Usually when Weber gets a commit there is a small write up in the Standard, but there has been nothing yet on Zaid. Maybe its not a done deal yet so who knows. Im still curious why the coaches are recruiting 2 JC tweener guard players with our current roster. Im going to assume both commit to us so this is what our depth chart will look like in my opinion.

1. Wheelright SO. 2. Bamforth SR. 3. Berry JR. 4. Otis SR. 5. Tresnak JR.
Richardson JR. Zaid JR. Sobey JR. Fulton JR. Hajek SO.
Brown SO (Redshirt) Hill FR. Bolomboy FR.

This is all speculation on my part, but I woiuld have liked to see Weber get a D1 small forward type transfer player to redshirt, but I trust Coach Rahe so Im sure it will all be fine. It will be a intersting off season.

Hmmm...

Gotta replace two scholarships: Lillard and Fields.

Wheelwright and Berry will be responsible for replacing Lillards scoring output, with Wheelwright being our PG. Shai was suppose to be Berry's backup this fall. That arrangement would have given Hill the luxury of red-shirting if he wanted to, which might not be a bad thing anyway, if Weber gets Sobey. By Red-shirting, it would give him another year to mature, to focus exclusively on basketball and to learn the 3 position better (improve his outside game, which is fine now, but can get a lot better with an extra year).

If Brown Red-shirts, then the team will definitely need a backup for Bamforth. Zaid and Sobey both could fill in nicely playing the 2, Zaid, could play the 1 too. Sobey, in my opinion, would be the better pickup out of the two. He is an excellent perimeter defender. Something the Wildcat desperately need. Also, he is an excellent rebounder, also something the Wildcats desperately need.

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

Who does Rahe extend preferred walk-on status too? I'm sure there will be a token few, possibly two. It isn't necessarily a bad thing. Van Pelt earned a return for his work ethic.

 

[Weber Pirate]

I talked to one of the coaches yesterday, and Zaid has given a verbal. They expect him to be here next fall and are really excited to have him com. :thumb:

 

[oldrunner]

I guess that I need to learn more about this kid. The coaches must be seeing something that I don't see. They also must be seeing him more as a point than a wing. The question that I have is, What does that say about their feelings on our other PGs? And further, they must have a lot of confidence in Hill to come in and back up at the 3 spot.

I hope they will all be here in June, so we can get a look at them.

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

Well, with Brown leaving, Lillard declaring for the NBA draft, and Sobey chosing Wyoming, Weber still has two open scholies for 2012-2013.

Who is the next best choice for the Cats? I've read a bunch of names, but there isn't any substantial information connecting them with Weber State.

I know what I would like to see, but I trust that Rahe and Co. have a far clearer idea and will get the right personnel for the team. It is nice to dream, right? A 6-5 player who can play inside and out, and one who can rebound and score is someone I'd like to see join the team. A Daviin Davis or Nic Sparrow type of players.