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New HC Blind Hopes and Wishes

SDHornet said:
It's the amenities at HS as is. Orr has been here 8 years and has failed miserably at addressing the concessions and bathroom issue at HS. There's no reason for the casual Hornet fan to come out when the fan experience (specifically bathrooms) is awful. This failure is 100% on Orr.

We know what the ceiling is for attendance based on our threepeat run. Expecting a sellout for every game is unrealistic until the basic amenity shortfalls at HS are addressed.
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I usually agree 100% w you on most topics. I believe Orr has done a solid job thus far.
The bathrooms are not up to par. However I don’t think luxury bathrooms will increase big attendance numbers.
The social aspect of sports in beer gardens / good food w TV’s and pre game tailgate scenes are what would make the biggest impact at HS the past few years.
I’m also preferring an on campus new stadium. We could keep the visitors stands in place and build everything else to be a Mini Canvas Stadium 22-25K seats (Colo State Rams FB Stadium).

FB still has time to get in synch. Finish rest of season beating ranked teams then a solid Playoff run. Penalties need to be addressed. Better beat F UCD too! 😂👏🏻
 
HornetFootballFan said:
I usually agree 100% w you on most topics. I believe Orr has done a solid job thus far.
The bathrooms are not up to par. However I don’t think luxury bathrooms will increase big attendance numbers.
The social aspect of sports in beer gardens / good food w TV’s and pre game tailgate scenes are what would make the biggest impact at HS the past few years.
I’m also preferring an on campus new stadium. We could keep the visitors stands in place and build everything else to be a Mini Canvas Stadium 22-25K seats (Colo State Rams FB Stadium).

FB still has time to get in synch. Finish rest of season beating ranked teams then a solid Playoff run. Penalties need to be addressed. Better beat F UCD too! 😂👏🏻
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He's done a solid job on everything aside from facilities. If you recall, one of his big plans/goals during his interview/presentation to land this AD job was to get an events center built which has amounted to absolutely nothing on his behalf (Wood gets all the credit on the Well move). So from a facilities standpoint, Orr is a failure.
 
OldSchoolHornet said:
Without being adversarial I'm curious as to what you feel Orr's five biggest accomplishments are since he was hired.
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Mainly his coaching hires, whether people want to credit the President at the time for them or not, Orr had to foster an environment/support for their respective programs to be successful. Also the interactions with various AD folks I've had over the years during his tenure have been overwhelmingly positive. Those interactions with AD staff along with the overall success of multiple programs within the AD has continually brought me back for events, games, outreach engagements which speaks to a successful Orr tenure IMO.
 
I appreciate your response. He absolutely deserves credit for the Troy Taylor hire but I’m not aware of any other hires that he played a significant role in since Wood arrived.
 
Yep. Retention also has to be looked at. Orr was able to keep Coach Christiansen while (old) Pac12 programs were sniffing around. There are some misses in there (McDaniel and Patrick) as well and some coaches who have been around for longer than warranted (Perez and Dedini).

Factor in that tennis, golf and volleyball programs are back to their title stacking habits of old and I don't think the casual Hornet fan realizes how good the last 5-6 years of Hornet fandom has been. The ultimate metric is championships and the Hornets have stacked 26 conference titles since Orr was named AD in spring 2017.
 
SDHornet said:
Yep. Retention also has to be looked at. Orr was able to keep Coach Christiansen while (old) Pac12 programs were sniffing around. There are some misses in there (McDaniel and Patrick) as well and some coaches who have been around for longer than warranted (Perez and Dedini).

Factor in that tennis, golf and volleyball programs are back to their title stacking habits of old and I don't think the casual Hornet fan realizes how good the last 5-6 years of Hornet fandom has been. The ultimate metric is championships and the Hornets have stacked 26 conference titles since Orr was named AD in spring 2017.
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You are absolutely correct...I was completely unaware.
 
SDHornet said:
He's done a solid job on everything aside from facilities. If you recall, one of his big plans/goals during his interview/presentation to land this AD job was to get an events center built which has amounted to absolutely nothing on his behalf (Wood gets all the credit on the Well move). So from a facilities standpoint, Orr is a failure.
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Yes.. in that category he didn’t check that box.

However the other very important categories like recruiting coaches etc he’s over achieved. Getting Troy Taylor / Mike Bibby / Brennan Marion (tbd) have been very uplifting to our program overall.

The pain of decades of mediocrity at FB was painful. I’m grateful and excited for FB to get 🔥 lit rest of the season and go on a terror
 
I don't know about Bippy but other than handling some paperwork and participating in some media glamor shots Orr had nothing to do with the Marion hire and that's why Marion deals directly with Wood.
 
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