No more FCS vs. FBS games?

[Green Cookie Monster]

Looks like the Big 12teen league has decided against scheduling anymore FCS opponents. I am sure the other BCS leagues will follow suit.

Where does that leave FCS schools who rely on $300K payday games to balance the books?

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[OldGreen67]

I could see the top 5 FBS conferences doing this...they can schedule MAC, MWC and other smaller conferences to play a home only game each year....basically allowing a FBS game without the 1 and 1.

I still see the lower level FBS teams scheduling FCS schools, but the number of games available payouts will be a lot lower.

Basically another case of the haves and have nots...eventually there will be 80 1A teams and then 170+ 1AA teams...

So wish the old school conferences would all just disapear and we just have regional conferences...that trickled into a national championship....but hey, money drives this ship and the PAC-12 and SEC's of the world arent going to share it :twocents:

Looks like the Big 12teen league has decided against scheduling anymore FCS opponents. I am sure the other BCS leagues will follow suit.

Where does that leave FCS schools who rely on $300K payday games to balance the books?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/big-ten-set-stop-scheduling-fcs-games-hopefully-142435724--ncaaf.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[GoldenEagleHornet]

That's only being considered by the B1G. There are two schools, that I know of, who already practice not scheduling FCS teams- USC & Notre Dame. The supposed ever mighty college football conference known as the SEC will never give up scheduling FCS opponents.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Out west it will be harder for the FBS schools to not schedule an FCS opponent. Back east, there are many more FBS schools so it is easier to pick and choose or deny.

Don't some states require the big BCS school play an in-state lesser rival? Like LSU vs. Nicholls, SE LA or McNeese. Iowa and N. Iowa, etc.

 

[SDHornet]

Yes. Not sure about the other states but I heard Arizona requires it by state law/mandate. Basically if ASU or UofA want to schedule an FCS opponent, NAU gets the right of first refusal. I think CA should do this seeing as those payouts are taxpayer money, may as well try to keep it in state before looking elsewhere.

 

[Chi-Town Hornet Fan]

Just one more straw on the camel’s back that when added to the others issues I see coming like liability issues with concussions and injuries that may cause FCS teams that are struggling financially to drop their football program. Sac State must need these payday games to make ends meet that is why they have been scheduling two a year, if they are no longer available can Sac State football survive.

 

[SDHornet]

Probably not, but there are a lot more FCS programs (and FBS programs for that matter) that depend on these payday games so this issue impacts programs all across the country.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Just one more straw on the camel’s back that when added to the others issues I see coming like liability issues with concussions and injuries that may cause FCS teams that are struggling financially to drop their football program. Sac State must need these payday games to make ends meet that is why they have been scheduling two a year, if they are no longer available can Sac State football survive.

If our existence is based on two bodybag games a year, we shouldnt be playing anyway.

 

[OldGreen67]

The games that we schedule are just to keep football afloat. Many of those pay days help support all the non money generating sports.

What the NCAA and BSC confernece is allow more players to travel for these games...allowing more depth to the lower level school...this should help reduce injuries since you could eleviate the need for starters from taking so many special team reps.

I like that we schedule 2 games...heck we are 2-2 over the last 2 seasons...and creates great press for the program. The players (to the man) want to play against the so called best.

:twocents:

Just one more straw on the camel’s back that when added to the others issues I see coming like liability issues with concussions and injuries that may cause FCS teams that are struggling financially to drop their football program. Sac State must need these payday games to make ends meet that is why they have been scheduling two a year, if they are no longer available can Sac State football survive.

If our existence is based on two bodybag games a year, we shouldnt be playing anyway.

 

[superhornet]

Yes. Not sure about the other states but I heard Arizona requires it by state law/mandate. Basically if ASU or UofA want to schedule an FCS opponent, NAU gets the right of first refusal. I think CA should do this seeing as those payouts are taxpayer money, may as well try to keep it in state before looking elsewhere.

So how would that work, SD? There are four FCS teams (and at least one other that SHOULD be) in Cali. Do they just pick one? Give the closest FCS right of first refusal? That could be an interesting idea, though one the B(C)$ers would fight tooth and nail.

Let's just hope they don't pass a similar law that says that FCS schools in Cali MUST play a Cali D-II. The D-IIs would have a similar argument, but it would be HORRIBLE for us to have to waste all our OOC games on bodybag and creampuff games that combined would schedule us out of the playoffs.

 

[The Green Hornet]

Only USC, Notre Dame and UCLA have never played a D1AA team.

 

[superhornet]

Only USC, Notre Dame and UCLA have never played a D1AA team.

But UCLA HAS played high school teams. And LOST. They've also played teams that are now D-III (and lost). LOL.

They've also played teams that are NOW I-AA, and unfashionable I-AA at that (Drake, now in the PFL). The Bruins lost THAT one, too. Oops! That streak just ended. I just ran across one where UCLA actually beat Montana (UCLA has actually beaten the Griz several times). Davis, too.

Of course, we're both playing technicalities here. UCLA played those teams well before the divisional breakdowns in the '70s, though they HAVE come close with a couple of early-season games against schools that OUGHT to be I-AA (notably San Jose State and one of the former directionals in LA). And I'm serious about the Bruins losing to those awful teams (back in the 'teens and '20s) before the haves and the have-nots settled themselves out; they were absolutely HORRIBLE back in their beginnings.

I don't have time to look up U$C or ND, but I'm sure their early schedules look similar.

 

[SDHornet]

Yes. Not sure about the other states but I heard Arizona requires it by state law/mandate. Basically if ASU or UofA want to schedule an FCS opponent, NAU gets the right of first refusal. I think CA should do this seeing as those payouts are taxpayer money, may as well try to keep it in state before looking elsewhere.

So how would that work, SD? There are four FCS teams (and at least one other that SHOULD be) in Cali. Do they just pick one? Give the closest FCS right of first refusal? That could be an interesting idea, though one the B(C)$ers would fight tooth and nail.

Let's just hope they don't pass a similar law that says that FCS schools in Cali MUST play a Cali D-II. The D-IIs would have a similar argument, but it would be HORRIBLE for us to have to waste all our OOC games on bodybag and creampuff games that combined would schedule us out of the playoffs.

It would work by mandating that FBS programs looking to schedule an FCS opponent must consider in state FCS programs first. So basically just a right of first refusal for CA FCS. It could even go a step further and mandate FCS consider in state D2/NAIA teams if the FCS programs are scheduling down. Also this would/should only apply to publicly funded programs so this wouldn’t affect Stanford, USD and any private D2/NAIA programs.

 

[GoldenEagleHornet]

Yes. Not sure about the other states but I heard Arizona requires it by state law/mandate. Basically if ASU or UofA want to schedule an FCS opponent, NAU gets the right of first refusal. I think CA should do this seeing as those payouts are taxpayer money, may as well try to keep it in state before looking elsewhere.

So how would that work, SD? There are four FCS teams (and at least one other that SHOULD be) in Cali. Do they just pick one? Give the closest FCS right of first refusal? That could be an interesting idea, though one the B(C)$ers would fight tooth and nail.

Let's just hope they don't pass a similar law that says that FCS schools in Cali MUST play a Cali D-II. The D-IIs would have a similar argument, but it would be HORRIBLE for us to have to waste all our OOC games on bodybag and creampuff games that combined would schedule us out of the playoffs.

Technically, only three of the Cal FCS programs would be mandated to be scheduled by the 5 Cal FBS teams. These eight are all public, state universities: Sac St, SJSU, FS, CP, SDSU; UCD, UCB, UCLA. Univ. of San Diego is a private university. Therefore if such a state law were to be enact, it would not apply to USD.