No respect!

[Sac_hornets]

Has anyone noticed how the Hornets are getting no respect going into the new season? I realize that Kevin Thomson is gone, but knowing Troy Taylor like I do, he works wonders with QB’s, history shows this. I guess in way, it will be good to be underdogs again and sneak up on everyone.

Sam Herder writes; The buzz around Sac State isn’t quite there anymore.

FCS: Biggest 2021 Non-Conference Games
https://www.google.com/amp/s/herosports.com/fcs-football-biggest-2021-non-conference-games-bzbz/amp/

 

[BSCfan1]

There's a lot of folks out that think our 2019 season was an anomaly and we'll revert to our "true selves" this year. I say good, let them underestimate us and take us lightly!

 

[josephpoint]

The buzz around Sac State is not there anymore?

We win the big Sky title in 2019 and then do not play in 2020
due to a pandemic and the buzz is gone? Where did it go?

At the beginning of the 2019 season we were voted to come in 12th place in the Big Sky coming out of a last place finish in 2018.

Then we win the Big Sky title in 2019.

On the way we beat at the time

#22 Eastern Washington by 19 points
#6 Montana State by 13 points
#19 Montana by 27 points

and not at the time UC Davis by 10 which had been ranked as high as #5 if memory serves me correctly.

and along the way

we also took care of

Northern Colorado by 52 points
Cal Poly by 24 points
Idaho by 24 points
Southern Oregon by 58 points
Northern Arizona by 4 points

Behind Arizona State by 5 points in the 4th quarter with 5 minutes left before falling .

Tied 20 to 20 with Fresno State in the 4th quarter before falling.

In all the games that Sac State last played (2019)
I have no recall of KT playing defense

And it is all about KT being gone. in terms of the Sac State football program

with early 2021 pre season media

We are just fine.

Can't wait until the first game at Dixie State under the lights in ST. George , Utah to see the hornets again

" Fight On Sacramento State "

 

[OldSchoolHornet]

There's enough talent in that QB room for Coach Fresques/Coach Taylor to put a qube on the field that can out-produce the guy that left.

 

[superhornet]

Losing Thomson will definitely hurt, but it was hardly likely he'd grad transfer back after UW gave him a raw deal (though I was certainly hoping he would). That said, what you say about Taylor working with QBs certainly seems to be true, and I fully expect to see us finish 2021 undie and in the playoffs again. That said, the one poll I've seen has us among ORV, which would certainly put us in position to be ranked fairly early....

 

[HornetHope]

There's enough talent in that QB room for Coach Fresques/Coach Taylor to put a qube on the field that can out-produce the guy that left.

I fully agree. Adding Asher O’Hara means the 2 deep at QB is very strong. Seems the talent level for this year took a pretty big step forward.

 

[Kadeezy]

There's enough talent in that QB room for Coach Fresques/Coach Taylor to put a qube on the field that can out-produce the guy that left.

I fully agree. Adding Asher O’Hara means the 2 deep at QB is very strong. Seems the talent level for this year took a pretty big step forward.

:thumb: The no respect narrative works for me. Almost time to turn this conference upside down, again.

 

[josephpoint]

yep , Keep turning the Big Sky upside down

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

Let’s be 100% real here.

The Sac State football program hasn’t done near enough historically to warrant much respect.

2019 was a great start toward earning respect. But only a first step. The program needs to demonstrate some consistency.

If 2021 is a good or great season and it is followed by another good or great season in 2022 then another in 2023 — the narrative will change. National respect will come.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Let’s be 100% real here.

The Sac State football program hasn’t done near enough historically to warrant much respect.

2019 was a great start toward earning respect. But only a first step. The program needs to demonstrate some consistency.

If 2021 is a good or great season and it is followed by another good or great season in 2022 then another in 2023 — the narrative will change. National respect will come.

Agree, we got man-handled by Austin Urine Univ. The D is suspect, I think the O will be fine. Historically the Hornets have been a joke, so it will take some years and W's to get that stink off.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

Let’s be 100% real here.

The Sac State football program hasn’t done near enough historically to warrant much respect.

2019 was a great start toward earning respect. But only a first step. The program needs to demonstrate some consistency.

If 2021 is a good or great season and it is followed by another good or great season in 2022 then another in 2023 — the narrative will change. National respect will come.

Agree, we got man-handled by Austin Urine Univ. The D is suspect, I think the O will be fine. Historically the Hornets have been a joke, so it will take some years and W's to get that stink off.

It will definitely take a few years.

Re: your comment on the urine school, I got mocked by some for dismissing AP immediately after the playoff loss — but that team just wasn’t that damned good. The Hornet team from mid-season wouldn’t have encountered the same problem with AP as the one that dragged itself to the regular season finish line.

That blowout loss was a major disappointment.

I also agree that the defense has the most to prove. The offense should be fine.

 

[Sac_hornets]

Let’s be 100% real here.

The Sac State football program hasn’t done near enough historically to warrant much respect.

2019 was a great start toward earning respect. But only a first step. The program needs to demonstrate some consistency.

If 2021 is a good or great season and it is followed by another good or great season in 2022 then another in 2023 — the narrative will change. National respect will come.

Agree, we got man-handled by Austin Urine Univ. The D is suspect, I think the O will be fine. Historically the Hornets have been a joke, so it will take some years and W's to get that stink off.

It will definitely take a few years.

Re: your comment on the urine school, I got mocked by some for dismissing AP immediately after the playoff loss — but that team just wasn’t that damned good. The Hornet team from mid-season wouldn’t have encountered the same problem with AP as the one that dragged itself to the regular season finish line.

That blowout loss was a major disappointment.

I also agree that the defense has the most to prove. The offense should be fine.

I agree with your comments, but I’m not sure why the Hornet defense dragged to the end? Was there defense just tired or were there some injuries that may caused this? The first part of the season our defense was stellar.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

Let’s be 100% real here.

The Sac State football program hasn’t done near enough historically to warrant much respect.

2019 was a great start toward earning respect. But only a first step. The program needs to demonstrate some consistency.

If 2021 is a good or great season and it is followed by another good or great season in 2022 then another in 2023 — the narrative will change. National respect will come.

Agree, we got man-handled by Austin Urine Univ. The D is suspect, I think the O will be fine. Historically the Hornets have been a joke, so it will take some years and W's to get that stink off.

It will definitely take a few years.

Re: your comment on the urine school, I got mocked by some for dismissing AP immediately after the playoff loss — but that team just wasn’t that damned good. The Hornet team from mid-season wouldn’t have encountered the same problem with AP as the one that dragged itself to the regular season finish line.

That blowout loss was a major disappointment.

I also agree that the defense has the most to prove. The offense should be fine.

I agree with your comments, but I’m not sure why the Hornet defense dragged to the end? Was there defense just tired or were there some injuries that may caused this? The first part of the season our defense was stellar.

It wasn’t just the defense that barely made the finish of the regular season. The offense was not good either. Thomson wasn’t the same QB coming off injury that he was up until mid-season.

Also, the injuries to Elijah Dotson and Pierre Williams helped to limit the offenses effectiveness.

 

[BSCfan1]

HERO just came out with the 2021 pre season rankings, we're listed as tied for 23rd. Ok, that's fine...in a little less than 2 months we can start working on climbing upwards! Sept 4 can't get here soon enough!
https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2021-preseason-top-25-bzbz/

 

[josephpoint]

Very well deserved #23 ranking.

Looking forward to the hornets taking on Dixie State in St. George , utah to open the season and back at hornet Stadium to take on the University of Northern Iowa .

And then to Berkley to take on the golden Bears. See the articles about Sac State going 0-9 all time against Pac 12 opponents in football.

Seem to remember that we beat Oregon State and Colorado in football so that would make us 2-7
against the Pac 12.

No respect and incorrect information about the Sacramento State football program.

 

[superhornet]

Very well deserved #23 ranking.

Looking forward to the hornets taking on Dixie State in St. George , utah to open the season and back at hornet Stadium to take on the University of Northern Iowa .

And then to Berkley to take on the golden Bears. See the articles about Sac State going 0-9 all time against Pac 12 opponents in football.

Seem to remember that we beat Oregon State and Colorado in football so that would make us 2-7
against the Pac 12.

No respect and incorrect information about the Sacramento State football program.

Oregon State has a history of "playing down" to the level of their opponent. Case in point: their road loss in Stockton in 1995 against a UOP team that would finish 3-8, largely because of a bodybag schedule featuring Fresno State, Arizona, Nebraska, Oregon, and Oregon State. There have been many games like that for Oregon State, which one would not expect from Oregon or any of the California-based Pac-12 teams (though Cal DID once lose an exhibition game in Lodi one spring to a COP team led by NFL HOFer Eddie LeBaron)....

 

[SDHornet]

I like that the Hornets are being overlooked, same thing happened in 2019 and it worked out quite well. If anything it will serve as a good motivator. Here’s my take based on what the roster currently shows.

Offensively we will be fine. All eyes will be on the QB battle and Taylor has brought in some stellar talent to compete with what returns. Given the track record this coaching staff has with QB development, this position shouldn’t be a concern for anyone.

We’re stacked at RB with Dotson and Perkinson as well as Fulcher and some young talent that was added. Anderson and Martin both return at TE. WR will be interesting to watch as Williams, Clayton, and Cotton are back. No doubt there will be a lot of the younger WRs battling it out for reps.

The OL lost 2 starters, but Steufel, Parker, and Weldon returned. The other Richardson brother came over as a grad transfer from the dungpile and he has starting experience. Lots of size and youth on the roster, including almost all backups that were listed on the 2-deep in 2019.


Defense will be the concern. DL lost both starting tackles but DE starters Hjelm and Erickson returned. Hardeman and Knott were listed on the 2019 2-deep at the interior and both are on the roster.

At LB Hawkins is back and that is huge. The other starting LB Harris is back as well as backup LB Bailey.

The secondary lost a lot and is the biggest concern imo. Bland leaving to Fresno State is a killer. He was one of the best DBs in the BSC and will be hard to replace. The only starters returning are Jeter and Mapu at SS and Ross and Washington at CB, all of whom had 13 starts between them in 2019.

If the defense has a respectable year I expect DC Andy Thompson to land a HC gig somewhere. Kind of surprised he wasn’t poached after the 2019 season.

Special teams returns Sentkowski at K and Clark at P. LS Cognetti is a returning redshirt.

 

[superhornet]

Nice analysis, as always, SD. You should publish this. It's better than what I've seen in national magazines (which admittedly see schools like Sac State as an afterthought, preferring to focus on those bogus P5 programs). This is awesome stuff!

 

[Sac_hornets]

Found this comment online about Sac State, this is exactly what I’m talking about when it comes to no respect or not having a clue on what is going with Sac State!

Sacramento State does not belong in the Top 25. The Hornets will depend all too heavily on star running back Elijah Dotson now that they have no clear starting quarterback. The once fierce defense has also seen only practice reps since 2019 and that spells even more trouble for a potentially one dimensional offense.

 

[superhornet]

Found this comment online about Sac State, this is exactly what I’m talking about when it comes to no respect or not having a clue on what is going with Sac State!

Sacramento State does not belong in the Top 25. The Hornets will depend all too heavily on star running back Elijah Dotson now that they have no clear starting quarterback. The once fierce defense has also seen only practice reps since 2019 and that spells even more trouble for a potentially one dimensional offense.

Can someone PLEASE explain why this is a problem for the Hornets, but not for anyone else? That doesn't make any sense....