Oregon is at it again.

[FreeBird]

The thing that sucks is that the NCAA rules always hurt schools like Eastern while benefitting teams like Oregon.

As for Mr Adams, you really saw the VA "dilemma" in bright lights tonight. When he's playing and healthy, he's poetry in motion. Oregon would have scored 60+ and run away with the game had he gone the whole sixty minutes. However, he gets hurt often and that means you better have alternatives. I can't imagine any NFL team is going to stick their nose out too far for a guy that has had three injuries in the last two years that have caused missed time. If his body can't handle college ball, it's going to be a nightmare in the NFL. With that said, I'm not sure this season at Oregon will benefit his draft stock because the talent was never a question, but the durability always has been and may be even more so now.

I suspect he'll be a late rounder to be projected as a backup "spark" type of bench QB; the kind you can script a few plays for a bring in situationally. It would be awfully hard for an NFL GM to commit multiple millions for a guy who almost certainly couldn't last a season.

I have no idea where he'll go in the draft. It is a weak year for QBs but he is short for an NFL QB. It would need to be a team trying to emulate Seattles offense.

I like VA's ability to evade pressure and make plays out of the pocket. He throws a very nice deep ball too. He will need to learn when and how to slide, to make it in the NFL. If he does make it to the late rounds, he might make a good backup for Wilson.

 

[marceagfan5]

If after playing three years for a team a player leaves to enhance his chances of playing after college, you see that as disloyal?

Are players that leave a year early for the NFL disloyal too?

The motivation for both moves is to improve their chances to play at the next level.

There is no question that VA improved has opportunities for playing at the next level, by transferring. I think the same can be said for Prukop.

I fully support them in maximizing their opportunity to play at the next level.

Go Eags!

The interesting thing at play here, is did VA improve his chance at playing at the next level?

He was great at EWU and Oregon, I'm glad he did well, he was/is a good dude. But...his knock going to Oregon and looking at the NFL was his size/durability, and his time at Oregon didn't help him in that regards.

He was ranked in several lists as the 10th best QB if he would have declared last year, it will be interesting to see if his draft status improved any by going the way of the Duck. If he left for the NFL early last year, he was probably a 4-6 rounder, not sure anything changed...

I think the biggest issue with VA leaving last year was the fact he went to a team we played in week 1. So not only did he leave us hurting at QB, he went to a team that was trying to beat us in Week 1. It made it a tricky situation. Glad it worked out well for everyone, although we would not have been 6-5 had he stayed.

 

[MLEagle]

If after playing three years for a team a player leaves to enhance his chances of playing after college, you see that as disloyal?

Are players that leave a year early for the NFL disloyal too?

The motivation for both moves is to improve their chances to play at the next level.

There is no question that VA improved has opportunities for playing at the next level, by transferring. I think the same can be said for Prukop.

I fully support them in maximizing their opportunity to play at the next level.

Go Eags!

The interesting thing at play here, is did VA improve his chance at playing at the next level?

He was great at EWU and Oregon, I'm glad he did well, he was/is a good dude. But...his knock going to Oregon and looking at the NFL was his size/durability, and his time at Oregon didn't help him in that regards.

He was ranked in several lists as the 10th best QB if he would have declared last year, it will be interesting to see if his draft status improved any by going the way of the Duck. If he left for the NFL early last year, he was probably a 4-6 rounder, not sure anything changed...

I think the biggest issue with VA leaving last year was the fact he went to a team we played in week 1. So not only did he leave us hurting at QB, he went to a team that was trying to beat us in Week 1. It made it a tricky situation. Glad it worked out well for everyone, although we would not have been 6-5 had he stayed.

He wasn't a 4-6 rounder last year and I doubt he gets drafted this year. He doesn't have the physical attributes the NFL is looking for and team's will try him out as a free agent but won't risk a draft choice on him. Case in point is Kellen Moore who won more games the any other in FBS history with BSU but it takes him 4 years to make it off of a practice squad and injuries along with horrible QB play for him to get playing time with Dallas.

I'm not saying VA can't play, but I would be very surprised if he gets drafted.

 

[eaglesfootball]

If after playing three years for a team a player leaves to enhance his chances of playing after college, you see that as disloyal?

Are players that leave a year early for the NFL disloyal too?

The motivation for both moves is to improve their chances to play at the next level.

There is no question that VA improved has opportunities for playing at the next level, by transferring. I think the same can be said for Prukop.

I fully support them in maximizing their opportunity to play at the next level.

Go Eags!

The interesting thing at play here, is did VA improve his chance at playing at the next level?

He was great at EWU and Oregon, I'm glad he did well, he was/is a good dude. But...his knock going to Oregon and looking at the NFL was his size/durability, and his time at Oregon didn't help him in that regards.

He was ranked in several lists as the 10th best QB if he would have declared last year, it will be interesting to see if his draft status improved any by going the way of the Duck. If he left for the NFL early last year, he was probably a 4-6 rounder, not sure anything changed...

I think the biggest issue with VA leaving last year was the fact he went to a team we played in week 1. So not only did he leave us hurting at QB, he went to a team that was trying to beat us in Week 1. It made it a tricky situation. Glad it worked out well for everyone, although we would not have been 6-5 had he stayed.

totally agree, Marc. This was never about whether or not he could play with elite college athletes, he already showed that he could. it also wasn't about loyalty or any of the other themes that have been discussed on this forum. "Increasing opportunities to play at the next level" wasn't a valid reason to transfer because at the end of the day Vernon is still 5'11 and prone to injury. that would have been true had he stayed at eastern or gone to Oregon. There are plenty of examples of NFL QB's who played their entire careers at the FCS level. That whole argument was just smoke and mirrors.
VA was/is a sensational college QB and I hope he does get a chance at the NFL, but I don't think he will get drafted. His best possible shot I think might be free agency, or maybe a shot in the CFL. I'm not hating, I like the kid, just being real here.

 

[Pleasechoose]

very good
royal1688

 

[luckyintheorder]

Hope VA is a lifetime backup making a million a year and rarely taking a hit at Green Bay, Minnesota and eventually Dallas. He'll have a breakout game year 4-6 to help a team make the playoff's and lock himself in for another 4 year contract. To us, he will always be BigPlayVA. A natty would have looked good though.

 

[CouvEagle]

If after playing three years for a team a player leaves to enhance his chances of playing after college, you see that as disloyal?

Are players that leave a year early for the NFL disloyal too?

The motivation for both moves is to improve their chances to play at the next level.

There is no question that VA improved has opportunities for playing at the next level, by transferring. I think the same can be said for Prukop.

I fully support them in maximizing their opportunity to play at the next level.

Go Eags!

The interesting thing at play here, is did VA improve his chance at playing at the next level?

He was great at EWU and Oregon, I'm glad he did well, he was/is a good dude. But...his knock going to Oregon and looking at the NFL was his size/durability, and his time at Oregon didn't help him in that regards.

He was ranked in several lists as the 10th best QB if he would have declared last year, it will be interesting to see if his draft status improved any by going the way of the Duck. If he left for the NFL early last year, he was probably a 4-6 rounder, not sure anything changed...

I think the biggest issue with VA leaving last year was the fact he went to a team we played in week 1. So not only did he leave us hurting at QB, he went to a team that was trying to beat us in Week 1. It made it a tricky situation. Glad it worked out well for everyone, although we would not have been 6-5 had he stayed.

totally agree, Marc. This was never about whether or not he could play with elite college athletes, he already showed that he could. it also wasn't about loyalty or any of the other themes that have been discussed on this forum. "Increasing opportunities to play at the next level" wasn't a valid reason to transfer because at the end of the day Vernon is still 5'11 and prone to injury. that would have been true had he stayed at eastern or gone to Oregon. There are plenty of examples of NFL QB's who played their entire careers at the FCS level. That whole argument was just smoke and mirrors.
VA was/is a sensational college QB and I hope he does get a chance at the NFL, but I don't think he will get drafted. His best possible shot I think might be free agency, or maybe a shot in the CFL. I'm not hating, I like the kid, just being real here.

This argument still frustrates me. This isn't just any opportunity on any team. This was a starting opportunity for one of the top college programs today (sorry Huskies). You would do that too (so did Prukop). Yes, his decision was strictly for his pro prospects. None of us are NFL scouts so we should stop that noise now.

Fact is, he's in the East/West shrine game, a national name, and getting looks at QB from the NFL. The young man only succeeded at Oregon. What FCS level QB ever made the switch to FBS and played like VA? No one. Ever.

Please realize what Vernon did as an FCS transfer to FBS and his success is unheard of (until Prukop). Otherwise this hate talk about him is so petty. Petty.

 

[marceagfan5]

If after playing three years for a team a player leaves to enhance his chances of playing after college, you see that as disloyal?

Are players that leave a year early for the NFL disloyal too?

The motivation for both moves is to improve their chances to play at the next level.

There is no question that VA improved has opportunities for playing at the next level, by transferring. I think the same can be said for Prukop.

I fully support them in maximizing their opportunity to play at the next level.

Go Eags!

The interesting thing at play here, is did VA improve his chance at playing at the next level?

He was great at EWU and Oregon, I'm glad he did well, he was/is a good dude. But...his knock going to Oregon and looking at the NFL was his size/durability, and his time at Oregon didn't help him in that regards.

He was ranked in several lists as the 10th best QB if he would have declared last year, it will be interesting to see if his draft status improved any by going the way of the Duck. If he left for the NFL early last year, he was probably a 4-6 rounder, not sure anything changed...

I think the biggest issue with VA leaving last year was the fact he went to a team we played in week 1. So not only did he leave us hurting at QB, he went to a team that was trying to beat us in Week 1. It made it a tricky situation. Glad it worked out well for everyone, although we would not have been 6-5 had he stayed.

totally agree, Marc. This was never about whether or not he could play with elite college athletes, he already showed that he could. it also wasn't about loyalty or any of the other themes that have been discussed on this forum. "Increasing opportunities to play at the next level" wasn't a valid reason to transfer because at the end of the day Vernon is still 5'11 and prone to injury. that would have been true had he stayed at eastern or gone to Oregon. There are plenty of examples of NFL QB's who played their entire careers at the FCS level. That whole argument was just smoke and mirrors.
VA was/is a sensational college QB and I hope he does get a chance at the NFL, but I don't think he will get drafted. His best possible shot I think might be free agency, or maybe a shot in the CFL. I'm not hating, I like the kid, just being real here.

This argument still frustrates me. This isn't just any opportunity on any team. This was a starting opportunity for one of the top college programs today (sorry Huskies). You would do that too (so did Prukop). Yes, his decision was strictly for his pro prospects. None of us are NFL scouts so we should stop that noise now.

Fact is, he's in the East/West shrine game, a national name, and getting looks at QB from the NFL. The young man only succeeded at Oregon. What FCS level QB ever made the switch to FBS and played like VA? No one. Ever.

Please realize what Vernon did as an FCS transfer to FBS and his success is unheard of (until Prukop). Otherwise this hate talk about him is so petty. Petty.

Hate talk? I think everyone likes VA, we were just questioning if this was a good decision or not. Did he really improve his draft stock? Who knows...

As far as what FCS player made the transition to FBS like Adams, none that I know of, but I can give you a laundry list of FCS players that are dominating in the NFL, heck a FCS QB will most likely be taken in round 1 of this years draft, Garoppalo was taken in round 2, 2 years ago. You don't have to go to the FBS to make it to the nfl...thats the point being made.

 

[eaglesfootball]

If after playing three years for a team a player leaves to enhance his chances of playing after college, you see that as disloyal?

Are players that leave a year early for the NFL disloyal too?

The motivation for both moves is to improve their chances to play at the next level.

There is no question that VA improved has opportunities for playing at the next level, by transferring. I think the same can be said for Prukop.

I fully support them in maximizing their opportunity to play at the next level.

Go Eags!

The interesting thing at play here, is did VA improve his chance at playing at the next level?

He was great at EWU and Oregon, I'm glad he did well, he was/is a good dude. But...his knock going to Oregon and looking at the NFL was his size/durability, and his time at Oregon didn't help him in that regards.

He was ranked in several lists as the 10th best QB if he would have declared last year, it will be interesting to see if his draft status improved any by going the way of the Duck. If he left for the NFL early last year, he was probably a 4-6 rounder, not sure anything changed...

I think the biggest issue with VA leaving last year was the fact he went to a team we played in week 1. So not only did he leave us hurting at QB, he went to a team that was trying to beat us in Week 1. It made it a tricky situation. Glad it worked out well for everyone, although we would not have been 6-5 had he stayed.

totally agree, Marc. This was never about whether or not he could play with elite college athletes, he already showed that he could. it also wasn't about loyalty or any of the other themes that have been discussed on this forum. "Increasing opportunities to play at the next level" wasn't a valid reason to transfer because at the end of the day Vernon is still 5'11 and prone to injury. that would have been true had he stayed at eastern or gone to Oregon. There are plenty of examples of NFL QB's who played their entire careers at the FCS level. That whole argument was just smoke and mirrors.
VA was/is a sensational college QB and I hope he does get a chance at the NFL, but I don't think he will get drafted. His best possible shot I think might be free agency, or maybe a shot in the CFL. I'm not hating, I like the kid, just being real here.

This argument still frustrates me. This isn't just any opportunity on any team. This was a starting opportunity for one of the top college programs today (sorry Huskies). You would do that too (so did Prukop). Yes, his decision was strictly for his pro prospects. None of us are NFL scouts so we should stop that noise now.

Fact is, he's in the East/West shrine game, a national name, and getting looks at QB from the NFL. The young man only succeeded at Oregon. What FCS level QB ever made the switch to FBS and played like VA? No one. Ever.

Please realize what Vernon did as an FCS transfer to FBS and his success is unheard of (until Prukop). Otherwise this hate talk about him is so petty. Petty.

I'm not hating on him at all. I am a fan, and I hope he does get his shot. But the odds are simply stacked against him in terms of the draft because of his height and that would have been true whatever he decided to do his senior year. He had some greats games at Oregon but he was doing that stuff against the pac at Eastern too, and i would even make the argument that doing it here was more impressive because he did not have the same quality of athletes around him as he did at Oregon.

Whats more, I have a problem with the notion that a kid has to play at the power 5 level to have a shot at the nfl. It is simply not true. VA may have gotten more exposure by playing at oregon but its not like scouts didn't know who he was before that. He doesn't have NFL measurables and that's the reason why I don't think he gets drafted, not because of talent. Transferring to Oregon didn't make him three inches taller.

 

[clawman1]

Transferring to Oregon didn't make him three inches taller.

3" shorter in the eyes of some of his team mates.

 

[CouvEagle]

Not bashing FCS players overall. Maybe that's why what VA did isn't in the media. But honestly, VA did a lot for the FCS and EWU's respect. I liked his stay at UO for us red turf fans. Just my opinion

 

[EWURanger]

He did what he thought was best for him. Happy for him. The only thing I would say is that I would be careful with the broad-brush statements such as "anyone would do what he did." Everyone's situation is different and if VA didn't have a young son, maybe he doesn't transfer. After all, that was part of the justification. I am sure Cooper Kupp, who is arguably a better overall football player than VA, would have had similar opportunities this year had he opted to utilize the graduate transfer rule. He would be a starter right now on a number of P5 schools. Yes, including Oregon. His situation, however, is different, and I don't believe you can take VA's dynamics and just apply it to anyone and say they'd do the same thing. Just my opinion.

 

[Hambone]

Yes, different situations for VA and Coop but I am not sure any comparisons there are very valid. Although Kupp maybe doesn't have really great straight line speed he doesn't have a lot of the doubts associated with stature that VA does. Either way I am always for what's best for the players. If Coop had decided to transfer or come out a year early for the draft I would have supported that decision too and I will still have been a fan. As for Vern someone will take a shot at him in the later rounds and if not he will get a shot as a free agent. Yes he is still short for the NFL but playing great at Oregon only improved his chances.

 

[EWUSigep447]

Cool little shout out to EWU at the end of this post Shrine game interview by VA.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j_erMLf1PI&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Seems like he is shaking off the small minority of haters in Cheney and giving credit to those who still root for him in EWU's fan base. Good luck to Big Play VA!

 

[Seattle Eagle]

Cool little shout out to EWU at the end of this post Shrine game interview by VA- https://youtu.be/3j_erMLf1PI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Seems like he is shaking off the small minority of haters in Cheney and giving credit to those who still root for him in EWU's fan base. Good luck to Big Play VA!

:clap:

They are definitely in the minority.

 

[Eagle Talon]

Cool little shout out to EWU at the end of this post Shrine game interview by VA- https://youtu.be/3j_erMLf1PI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Seems like he is shaking off the small minority of haters in Cheney and giving credit to those who still root for him in EWU's fan base. Good luck to Big Play VA!

He ball'd out in the Shrine game. VA will go no lower than the 4th round.

 

[Rjones61]

Maybe his motivations weren't to play in the NFL. Maybe he wanted, just for one year, to play the massive fanbase experience. What Vernon did at Oregon was a great success. He accomplished everything he wanted to accomplish. So I think I can chalk V.A.'s move as a good decision on his part.

I also don't think the fantastic recruiting class we are getting out of Oregon this year is any coincidence.

 

[luckyintheorder]

Maybe his motivations weren't to play in the NFL. Maybe he wanted, just for one year, to play the massive fanbase experience. What Vernon did at Oregon was a great success. He accomplished everything he wanted to accomplish. So I think I can chalk V.A.'s move as a good decision on his part.

I also don't think the fantastic recruiting class we are getting out of Oregon this year is any coincidence.

Between VA's notoriety and all the Eag helmet stickers in the other NFLPA game, it can't hurt.

 

[CouvEagle]

He did what he thought was best for him. Happy for him. The only thing I would say is that I would be careful with the broad-brush statements such as "anyone would do what he did." Everyone's situation is different and if VA didn't have a young son, maybe he doesn't transfer. After all, that was part of the justification. I am sure Cooper Kupp, who is arguably a better overall football player than VA, would have had similar opportunities this year had he opted to utilize the graduate transfer rule. He would be a starter right now on a number of P5 schools. Yes, including Oregon. His situation, however, is different, and I don't believe you can take VA's dynamics and just apply it to anyone and say they'd do the same thing. Just my opinion.

Agreed. Statement was pretty broad. What I really meant was if you were offered a scholarship to a power 5 school as a senior, essentially guaranteeing the starting spot, you would take it. He took a gamble, that's for sure, but I think he knew what he was doing by leaving. I'm sure he reached out to schools before hand to get a feel. QB is a different position to evaluate by pros than WR, for your Kupp analogy. QB's are under the microscope whereas WR's can test out the world and get drafted regardless of school. As a QB, VA made the right decision in my opinion.

 

[Rontheoldwiseeagle]

Not bashing FCS players overall. Maybe that's why what VA did isn't in the media. But honestly, VA did a lot for the FCS and EWU's respect. I liked his stay at UO for us red turf fans. Just my opinion

yes,yes. Mine as while.