Ouch...Sac loses in OT

[Phantom Hornet]

Well, that's a crappy way to end what was a pretty good season. Hornets lose in OT to the previously winless Bungles of Idaho State...

This loss is on Smith...he had one of the worst games of his career.

Still, I know that most of us would have taken 6-6 before the season started....The future looks bright

 

[StungAlum]

Heartbreaker, just an absolute heartbreaker. Still, I'm happy with the overall record and think that this season was pretty good, it was a vast improvement over last year.

Congratulations to the Hornets for a good season, I'm looking foward to next season with hopes of making the playoffs.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Sac Rat summed it up best.......

http://sacstatehornets.wordpress.com/

 

[SDHornet]

This one hurt, but in reality 6-6 is a huge step up from last year and in my opinion still an over achievement. Plus the Causeway victory guaranteed a successful year. Next years success will hinge on whether or not Sperbeck can fill the linebacking void with solid recruits in the off-season. I'd also like to see a good kicker added, some added depth on the both sides on the line as well as some highly athletic wide receivers. Fortunately the solid year will help bring in some of the recruits that will be needed to continue the winning ways. Go Sac!

 

[superhornet]

Regardless of Smith's culpability, this represents a far-reaching problem that unfortunately goes back to the days of the Big Cat. Sac just does not know how to win a game in OT with the NCAA's bogus OT rules. Give us a modified NFL-style overtime such that each team gets a possession before it goes to sudden death, or just allow the freaking tie. I've never liked the NCAA OT, which is too much like softball's international tiebreaker and unjustifiably pads stats, and that would be the case even if Sac could win one of those. Back in the Big Cat era, we lost one or two OT games because the fans couldn't shut up at the right time, and then the disease just spread from there.

Change the bloody rule.

 

[SactoHornetAlum]

We didn't stop them in OT. Period. There is nothing wrong with the rule. We didn't stop them on the kickoff return just before the end of regulation either. We gave the game away.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Yeah, If I was Hilliard I'd be pissed. He was a stud and scored on the last regulation drive only to have special teams choke on the kickoff and the D give up a cakewalk TD score in OT.

Having Washington drop the ball at the ISU 40 with 5 secs didn't help. The missed PAT by Gamboa really haunted them in the end.

We didn't stop them in OT. Period. There is nothing wrong with the rule. We didn't stop them on the kickoff return just before the end of regulation either. We gave the game away.

 

[aggiefan97]

nice job in the finale fellas. I thought that nothing could cheer me up after losing the Causeway, getting the beat down from SLO and then ending the season by losing to USD. It was definitely sad times in Aggie Nation. And then I see that the degenerates from across the Causeway, with an opportunity to have their first winning season in generations, goes out and loses to freakin' 0-10 IDAHO STATE!!! Awesome. I am bummed about our plight, but I can always count on your fine institution to cheer me up and realize that things could be much much worse. Even a gift year when we hand you the Causeway with our worst team in over 30 years, you still close the season out with a bang. Just when you thought you turned a corner with Sperbeck you go and pull a Sac State. Our 5-7 season was historically bad, but congrats on your awesome success this year.

 

[StungAlum]

nice job in the finale fellas. I thought that nothing could cheer me up after losing the Causeway, getting the beat down from SLO and then ending the season by losing to USD. It was definitely sad times in Aggie Nation. And then I see that the degenerates from across the Causeway, with an opportunity to have their first winning season in generations, goes out and loses to freakin' 0-10 IDAHO STATE!!! Awesome. I am bummed about our plight, but I can always count on your fine institution to cheer me up and realize that things could be much much worse. Even a gift year when we hand you the Causeway with our worst team in over 30 years, you still close the season out with a bang. Just when you thought you turned a corner with Sperbeck you go and pull a Sac State. Our 5-7 season was historically bad, but congrats on your awesome success this year.

Have fun with your coaching downward spiral, next year you guys wont finish any better than 4-8. Maybe Biggs should come get some coaching lessons from Sperbeck, you know, a real DI coach.

If youre going to smack talk you should have correct stats, that was not ISU's record going into the game. Let me break it down for the Berkely rejects, there were 12 games this season, the game against ISU was the last game for both teams, that means that both teams had played 11 games before that game.

Oh, and 6-6 is a lot better than 5-7especially since we were projected to win fewer games. The Hornets met or exceeded expectations under a second year coach where the aggs continue to create a new tradition, that is one of being a losing football program in a VERY weak GWC. Have fun recruiting our leftovers in the off season, no one wants to play for a DII program in DI clothing.

 

[SDHornet]

Well said StungAlum, well said. ucd sure can talk a lot of smack after dropping a game to a team that doesn't even offer its players scholarships. I also like that fact that someone finally pointed out the weakness of the joke of a conference that is the Great West. Aside from Cal Poly, there really is no point in acknowledging its existence.

 

[aggiefan97]

Great point....sorry I had the wrong #'s....you're really going to argue that I am an idiot because you guys lost to 0-11 ISU and not 0-10 ISU, now that's funny. Speaking of math, someone should tell you fine Stanislaus rejects that for the fourth year in a row the Great West has a higher conference RPI than the Big Sky.

NCAA Men's Football - Conference Rankings (2008-2009)

Only games against Division I opponents are counted.
Rankings update every 5 mins.
Last updated - Tue Nov 25 07:20:08 EST 2008

Rank Conference (Teams) All Non-Conf Index Sos Sos Rk
1 Big 12 12 81-53 (60%) 38-10 (79%) 53.42 53.81 3
2 Southeastern 12 80-52 (61%) 36-8 (82%) 52.44 53.96 2
3 Atlantic Coast 12 78-54 (59%) 34-10 (77%) 50.38 54.07 1
4 Big Ten 11 76-56 (58%) 32-12 (73%) 50.34 52.76 4
5 Big East 8 51-35 (59%) 28-12 (70%) 49.73 52.15 5
6 Mountain West 9 61-47 (56%) 25-11 (69%) 48.05 50.23 6
7 Pacific-10 10 53-56 (49%) 13-16 (45%) 44.72 49.40 7
8 Western Athletic 9 50-51 (50%) 17-18 (49%) 41.94 47.38 8
9 Mid-American 13 68-75 (48%) 22-29 (43%) 40.14 45.20 11
10 Conference USA 12 60-72 (45%) 18-30 (38%) 38.19 45.91 10

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11 Independents 4 17-26 (40%) 16-25 (39%) 36.78 46.99 9
12 Sun Belt 8 36-51 (41%) 12-27 (31%) 34.92 42.13 12
13 fcs Colonial 12 74-65 (53%) 26-17 (60%) 30.38 31.26 13
14 fcs Southern 9 50-51 (50%) 22-23 (49%) 27.43 29.30 15
15 fcs Patriot League 7 40-36 (53%) 20-16 (56%) 25.76 28.33 16
16 fcs Great West 5 20-25 (44%) 13-19 (41%) 25.69 29.65 14
17 fcs Missouri Valley 9 48-54 (47%) 26-32 (45%) 25.31 26.50 18
18 fcs Southland 8 44-42 (51%) 16-14 (53%) 25.12 26.06 21
19 fcs Big Sky 9 50-53 (49%) 14-16 (47%) 24.64 25.59 24
20 fcs Ohio Valley 9 47-54 (47%) 19-26 (42%) 24.33 26.28 19


For those of you not good with #'s (and I assume that is all of you) that is the GW in 16th and the Big Sky in 19th. In this case, 16th is better than 19th, so there goes that argument.


I'm still laughing over the "ISU was 0-11, not 0-10" argument that you made.....priceless.

 

[StungAlum]

I'm still laughing over the "ISU was 0-11, not 0-10" argument that you made.....priceless.

If laughing at your idiocy makes you feel better, go ahead.

Are you still upset about your mommy driving to Nebraska and dropping you off?

 

[SDHornet]

The point is that Cal Poly carries that entire conference on its back. Without their wins, the GWC wouldn't even have a ranking. Also if the GWC is so great, why do they struggle to even be considered for a playoff spot while the BSC consistently gets multiple playoff spots year in and year out? And finally, the schools in the GWC don't even play a complete conference schedule. I guess they don't have enough funds to travel to North and South Dakota every year. What a joke.

 

[Green Laser]

The GWC only has 3 full FCS teams, Poly, Davis and Southern Utah. North Dakota and South Dakota are transitional teams and don't count in totaling division 1 wins so the 3 full teams only play one Dakota each what a joke. This is a league that wants automatic bid to the playoffs when they play 4 league games and the Big Sky plays 8. The Hornets had their growing pains this year and took some lumps, the Big Sky is a physical, battle a week league where anything can happen any Saturday. Comparing the GWC to the Big Sky top to bottom is nuts. Keep in mind that Montana beat Cal Poly, Davis and Southern Utah so they are the real GWC champion! Next year Davis plays Bosie State, Fresno State, Montana, Cal Poly and Sac State so they have lost 5 before they even start! I know that Davis looks down on JC transfers but they better go that route or they will have a very long season next year.

 

[AggieFinn]

I know that Davis looks down on JC transfers but they better go that route or they will have a very long season next year.

Now, that's a load of bull in my opinion. While Biggs and his recruiting staff obviously don't look hard enough at the JC level (that better change this off-season), we've had some great transfers come through Davis and make an impact. It's also difficult when the transfer academic standards are as high as they are at UCD. IMO, when young California student athletes go to JC's, they want to play immediately and transfer on to I-A football...meaning focus on football and meet the minimum requirements...if the FBS dream fades, they look at Cal Poly, Sac State, UC Davis and the Big Sky...I'd wager less than 30% fall into the UC Davis requirement bracket.

Some recent, notable transfers include:

RB Alex Garfio - Ventura College
RB Marcus Nolan - Citrus College/SJSU
DE Steven Wulff - Fullerton JC/Boise State
QB Matt Engle - El Camino College
FS Brady McClendon - Diablo Valley College
OT Steve Gatena - Air Force (how does an OT fit into a jet?)

 

[SDHornet]

aggiefan97 on Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:12 am

Speaking of math, someone should tell you fine Stanislaus rejects that for the fourth year in a row the Great West has a higher conference RPI than the Big Sky.

Good call on the conference numbers aggiefan97. I have another set of numbers for you: 49-35. That's the score of the Great West's posterboy Cal Poly losing AT HOME to the Big Sky's Weber State. One and done for Cal Poly. Still claiming that the Great West is a better football conference than the Big Sky?

Since you are a numbers guy, here are a few more to keep you entertained:
2008 Playoff record:
Great West: 0-1
Big Sky: 2-0 (3-1 after this Saturday) and counting...