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Padron made the difference

clawman1

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The move to replace Adams with Padron was the difference is the game Saturday. The Eagles needed his throwing ability more than they needed Adams scrambling. If not for some of the throws he made there would not have been the circus catches (and drops) we saw.
Good move Beau, Good job Kyle
 
Well said.

It's so great (and fortunate) that Baldwin has two great QB's he can deploy when the situation or environment calls for a certain sill set. He's done a great job managing this situation this year.
 
+1

I am so glad we have Kyle, I think that was the best game of the season for him. A couple off-target throws here and there, but he did have some guys drop some balls that were right on the money, including Edwards and Kaufman. Luckily both those guys came on strong late in the game.

Honestly, I think we will need strong play from both QB's in the playoffs. I really feel like if we are playing a team that is weak against the pass, Kyle needs to be in there and we need to pass to set up the run as oppossed to trying to run on every first down. Get Kyle in, go 4 wide and throw the ball around. That is where he is best. Once we abandoned the run yesterday the offense moved the ball. And I'm not saying abandon the run in every game, but if you're playing an opponent that was clearly selling out to stop the run, you gotta go with the strength of the team which is our passing game.

Also, I do like the fact that both Qb's played quite a bit this season. It was good for Adams to get some opportunites. And while I feel like Adams in the QB of the future, I really think starting as a Freshman was rough for him in a few games where he got a little overwhelmed. I thought Kyle should have come in during the MSU game.

I think both QB's will progress a lot during the off-season and we could see some of the same next year unless one of them is just head and shoulders above the rest. And I wouldn't be upset seeing Kyle as "the man" since Adams will have 2 additional years after that to be the lone starter.
 
Spot on Clawman !!! Now WHAT ????? At home on the Red, Adams has been dynamic however I have noticed over the past few weeks his mechanics have gotten much worse and his mindset to run first throw second could be problematic ! The lack of a running game may force Baldwin to go with Padron and use Adams in a wildcat situation. No time for experiments now ! GOEAGS!!!
 
flyingnail said:
Spot on Clawman !!! Now WHAT ????? At home on the Red, Adams has been dynamic however I have noticed over the past few weeks his mechanics have gotten much worse and his mindset to run first throw second could be problematic ! The lack of a running game may force Baldwin to go with Padron and use Adams in a wildcat situation. No time for experiments now ! GOEAGS!!!
Michigan did that yesterday. They used their star QB Robinson as a decoy. He had an injured throwing arm so could not pass effectively but the competition did not know that.
Gotta love a little trickery :thumb:
 
EWURanger said:
+1

I am so glad we have Kyle, I think that was the best game of the season for him. A couple off-target throws here and there, but he did have some guys drop some balls that were right on the money, including Edwards and Kaufman. Luckily both those guys came on strong late in the game.

Honestly, I think we will need strong play from both QB's in the playoffs. I really feel like if we are playing a team that is weak against the pass, Kyle needs to be in there and we need to pass to set up the run as oppossed to trying to run on every first down. Get Kyle in, go 4 wide and throw the ball around. That is where he is best. Once we abandoned the run yesterday the offense moved the ball. And I'm not saying abandon the run in every game, but if you're playing an opponent that was clearly selling out to stop the run, you gotta go with the strength of the team which is our passing game.

Also, I do like the fact that both Qb's played quite a bit this season. It was good for Adams to get some opportunites. And while I feel like Adams in the QB of the future, I really think starting as a Freshman was rough for him in a few games where he got a little overwhelmed. I thought Kyle should have come in during the MSU game.

I think both QB's will progress a lot during the off-season and we could see some of the same next year unless one of them is just head and shoulders above the rest. And I wouldn't be upset seeing Kyle as "the man" since Adams will have 2 additional years after that to be the lone starter.

This is a great post except for the fact the every year new QB's are brought in and no one knows who the next superstar might be. Everyone was sweating in training camp about Adams and lauded the move to get Padron here. No one thought Adams would have played so much, given his Spring practices.
 
Not to toot my own horn, but if you go back to that pre-season buy/sell thread that was really popular, I put in there that I thought we'd see a lot of Vernon Adams at QB this season. This notion that he wasn't very good during the Spring is nonsense that keeps getting thrown out during SWX broadcasts. He did very well in the Spring and would have been our solo starter had it not been for the transfer of Padron.

I think Baldwin has handled this situation perfectly. He told the players that he would play them both and see how the opposing defense reacts. He'd select who'd play further based on that. There is no deflation of either guy's psyche, because they can both say they are the "starting QB." Neither has ever been demoted.

Padron was a better fit against Washington State, Sac State, and Portland State. Adams looked to be the better option against Weber State, Montana, and Cal Poly. The only game that left me totally confused was Montana State when Adams was clearly struggling but we never switched to Padron. But I'm sure therewas good reasoning behind the decision.
 
LDopaPDX said:
Not to toot my own horn, but if you go back to that pre-season buy/sell thread that was really popular, I put in there that I thought we'd see a lot of Vernon Adams at QB this season. This notion that he wasn't very good during the Spring is nonsense that keeps getting thrown out during SWX broadcasts. He did very well in the Spring and would have been our solo starter had it not been for the transfer of Padron.

I think Baldwin has handled this situation perfectly. He told the players that he would play them both and see how the opposing defense reacts. He'd select who'd play further based on that. There is no deflation of either guy's psyche, because they can both say they are the "starting QB." Neither has ever been demoted.

Padron was a better fit against Washington State, Sac State, and Portland State. Adams looked to be the better option against Weber State, Montana, and Cal Poly. The only game that left me totally confused was Montana State when Adams was clearly struggling but we never switched to Padron. But I'm sure therewas good reasoning behind the decision.

Great insight. I wrote on another post about "using two QB's in situational places." I believe I was booed with venomous undertones. What makes your post legit, is watching Padron and Adams get so excited at the success of each other. I have never witnessed 2 QB's on ANY team, be so much for the other, when they make a great play.
 

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