Poll: Would you want Boise St in the Big Sky?

[SWeberCat02]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7186814/idaho-state-board-education-gives-boise-st-ok-join-big-east" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Idaho clears Boise State to join Big East

"Negotiations are also taking place to secure conference membership for other Boise State teams. Kustra said he hopes to solidify membership plans with at least one western conference in the next several days. He declined to identify the conference, but said geography is a key ingredient in finding a home for basketball, volleyball, tennis and other sports."

 

[WSUFootballer]

Where is the hell no option? No more partial membership. All or nothing!

 

[weberwildcat]

no,

idaho, yes, because they would bring football with them if they are to ever come back if the wac is done. if travel $$ is a conference issue, i would rather be going to moscow than grand forks. overall i see no reason for the big sky to add boise state.

can anyone think of reasons to change my mind? i am open to all ideas.

basketball alone it would be good to have a school just 4 hrs away as one pro. it would be good for idaho state. how many ncaa appearances did boise have in the wac (1997-2011)? i think it was just the 1 which was 2-3 yrs ago. i remember they were a 14 seed.

 

[PurpleBlood]

I think the conference should stick with no partial membership. I also think Boise State being in the Big East in football might give them an unfair recruiting advantage in basketball. Big East, Big Sky, same thing right? I do think it might raise the profile of our conference a little and give us a big game.

 

[WILDCAT]

Where is the hell no option? No more partial membership. All or nothing!

What this yahoo said :+1:

 

[bigskychamps07]

They're not very good at anything else anyway. Let them be in the WAC or MWC.

 

[oldrunner]

I like the idea. They are a natural rival and our league is already a mix of participation. Boise is a fun town to visit. They used to bring a lot of fans with them to Ogden. If they bring Idaho with them, all the better.

 

[n.ogdencat]

This is turning into quite the conundrum for Boise. They can't go back to the WAC (it's going to be gone, Boise and air force are leaving that means the MW will add two WAC schools; USU and SJSU in all likelihood Thompson has already reached out to them.), the WCC and Big West aren't going to take them, that only leaves The Sky. Say no!! Take Idaho and watch all of boises oly sports go independent.

 

[weberwildcat]

This is turning into quite the conundrum for Boise. They can't go back to the WAC (it's going to be gone, Boise and air force are leaving that means the MW will add two WAC schools; USU and SJSU in all likelihood Thompson has already reached out to them.), the WCC and Big West aren't going to take them, that only leaves The Sky. Say no!! Take Idaho and watch all of boises oly sports go independent.

those are some good points.

WCC - not a good fit other than you could add a 6 hr bus ride from provo. wcc appears to be the only conf remaining that still uses the old school rules - like universities, prestige, academics, location, ... etc. those rules now mean nothing anywhere else but wcc doesnt have football. boise would be the only public institution as well the wcc are all religious schools.

big west - they are called a bus league because you can take a buss to any of the schools. they just added hawaii but why did they do this? are there some financial reasons i am unaware of? adding boise still doesnt seem like a good addition for them. but i guess it is possible.

wac - if mwc takes usu and sjsu then boise will avoid that mess

mwc - stay there if they are allowed to. are they? is this an issue?

big sky - they are in the middle of old big sky country and would have 1 (possibley 2) instate opponents. buss distance to msu, um, isu, wsu.

best options assuming these are options:

1. stay in mwc
2. big sky
3. big west

it would appear wac and wcc probably wouldn't be options.

 

[weberwildcat]

i dont like partial members in the big sky. i think it is unnecessary for our conf. but the more i think about it and just thinking about basketball, i like the idea of boise in the big sky. if i could have it my way though i would not have ucd, cp or und. full members only and should span 2 times zones only.

 

[Waldo2]

I say absolutely no - All or nothing.

The only way I would say yes is if they share some of the football $ with the Big Sky teams.

 

[weberwildcat]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=336&f=2248&t=8197332" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
boise forum thread: big west vs wac

Posted: Yesterday 7:14 PM
RE: Big West Vs WAC

BroncoMojo wrote: WCC may be even better - Gonzaga, St. Mary and BYU in BB.

WCC isn't in consideration. They've politely told us thanks.. but no thanks, unofficially of course.

We're looking at the WAC, Big West, and Big Sky.

Of those 3.. given the likely defections from the WAC.. the Big West is probably going to be the highest rated Basketball conference. As for the other sports.. no offense to them.. but.. meh.

 

[sasquatch]

those are some good points.

WCC - not a good fit other than you could add a 6 hr bus ride from provo. wcc appears to be the only conf remaining that still uses the old school rules - like universities, prestige, academics, location, ... etc. those rules now mean nothing anywhere else but wcc doesnt have football. boise would be the only public institution as well the wcc are all religious schools.

big west - they are called a bus league because you can take a buss to any of the schools. they just added hawaii but why did they do this? are there some financial reasons i am unaware of? adding boise still doesnt seem like a good addition for them. but i guess it is possible.

wac - if mwc takes usu and sjsu then boise will avoid that mess

mwc - stay there if they are allowed to. are they? is this an issue?

big sky - they are in the middle of old big sky country and would have 1 (possibley 2) instate opponents. buss distance to msu, um, isu, wsu.

best options assuming these are options:

1. stay in mwc
2. big sky
3. big west

it would appear wac and wcc probably wouldn't be options.

Hawaii is paying a travel allowance to other Big West schools. In addition, Hawaii will fly in and out of San Francisco and LAX, which will save them tons of money (as opposed to flying to places like Moscow, Boise, Ruston and so on).

The MWC has already said they won't allow a school to keep its oly sports only in the conference. That's why BYU had to pack up and go.

The Big West is rumored to want even number of teams in the conference. BSU would make it 11, so they would have to add another. Air Force is a possibility, and they have come out and said they can't be competitive with schools in the MWC when it comes to basketball. I'm not big on partial membership either, unless it's football only. Still, if I'm Fullerton, I'd be looking long and hard at Air Force. Throw in the fact that there are some Air Force bases near Big Sky schools (Hill, Mountain Home, Malmstrom, Fairchild...), and you could market on both sides.

As for Boise, no. They burn so many bridges, I'm surprised conferences like the WAC are even listening to them.

 

[weberwildcat]

those are some good points.

WCC - not a good fit other than you could add a 6 hr bus ride from provo. wcc appears to be the only conf remaining that still uses the old school rules - like universities, prestige, academics, location, ... etc. those rules now mean nothing anywhere else but wcc doesnt have football. boise would be the only public institution as well the wcc are all religious schools.

big west - they are called a bus league because you can take a buss to any of the schools. they just added hawaii but why did they do this? are there some financial reasons i am unaware of? adding boise still doesnt seem like a good addition for them. but i guess it is possible.

wac - if mwc takes usu and sjsu then boise will avoid that mess

mwc - stay there if they are allowed to. are they? is this an issue?

big sky - they are in the middle of old big sky country and would have 1 (possibley 2) instate opponents. buss distance to msu, um, isu, wsu.

best options assuming these are options:

1. stay in mwc
2. big sky
3. big west

it would appear wac and wcc probably wouldn't be options.

Hawaii is paying a travel allowance to other Big West schools. In addition, Hawaii will fly in and out of San Francisco and LAX, which will save them tons of money (as opposed to flying to places like Moscow, Boise, Ruston and so on).

The MWC has already said they won't allow a school to keep its oly sports only in the conference. That's why BYU had to pack up and go.

The Big West is rumored to want even number of teams in the conference. BSU would make it 11, so they would have to add another. Air Force is a possibility, and they have come out and said they can't be competitive with schools in the MWC when it comes to basketball. I'm not big on partial membership either, unless it's football only. Still, if I'm Fullerton, I'd be looking long and hard at Air Force. Throw in the fact that there are some Air Force bases near Big Sky schools (Hill, Mountain Home, Malmstrom, Fairchild...), and you could market on both sides.

As for Boise, no. They burn so many bridges, I'm surprised conferences like the WAC are even listening to them.

interesting...

so it should be like this then for them:
1. big west
2. big sky

mwc says no, wcc says no, wac likely isnt an option if usu/san jose leave

 

[WILDCAT]

I have a feeling, that we will be welcoming Boise back as basketball members....


ONLY IF SOME OF THAT FOOTBALL MONEY COMES TO THE BIG SKY

 

[SWeberCat02]

I voted yes. The best option would be to add another full member school to get to 12 and 14. But there aren't any full member schools to add right now. If there was it would have already happened. San Diego is the only real FCS option and they aren't a good option. So until Idaho wakes up and decides to drop down, I don't see that adding another full member is an option right now. But by adding Boise St the conference still gets to 12 teams in hoops and other sports. And an even number gives you the ability to use the travel partners system. And I really think Boise St would help the quality of the conference.

 

[SWeberCat02]

http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2011/11/02/bmurphy/if_boise_states_football_team_goes_big_east_where_should_broncos" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If Boise State's football team goes to the Big East, where should the Broncos' other programs go?

Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson has said Boise State will not be allowed to house its programs in the conference if the football team departs.

Here are Boise State's Western options (in alphabetical order): Big Sky, Big West, West Coast Conference, Western Athletic Conference.

Big Sky Commissioner Doug Fullerton said Wednesday night that Boise State and Air Force have not contacted the conference about housing its non-football teams.

"We have not heard from them. We'd be happy to talk to them," Fullerton said. "Things are happening so quickly, we're going to wait and see what happens."

 

[weberwildcat]

Remember when Foolerton invited Utah State and Idaho to the Big Sky over the summer? :stir:

 

[SDHornet]

BSU’s options for their Oly sports will be the Big West or Big Sky. I don’t see the WCC taking them, the MWC will kick them out, and the WAC…well it really won’t be there when USU & SJSU are invited to the MWC and LA Tech possibly even gets a CUSA invite.

I don’t see the Big West taking them unless they offer to subsidize travel. Plus the BWC is at an even number, which means they would probably want to find another member to maintain a scheduling balance.

I think it would be a great add for the BSC. It would create divisions for the Oly sports thereby reducing the travel costs that the retarded UND add created. Plus it’s another decent market to add that could only help the Roots Sports contract the BSC is soon to announce. Also it’s easy for fans and teams to travel to Boise as its located smack in the middle of the BSC footprint. Since Fullerton already shat on the all sports only tag line, there isn’t really a leg to stand on as far as complaining that BSU won’t be a full all sports member. I’d much rather see BSU in the BSC instead of Idalol. I don’t see Idalol or any FBS program left out of the conference alignments ever taking their football program to FCS. :twocents:

 

[EWURanger]

I'd rather see Idaho as the 12th all-sports member.....but since that probably won't happen, then I'd take a loot at adding BSU for the olympic sports. They are in the geographical footprint of the old Big Sky Conference and we could renew some rivalries there.

That said, it was BSU (and Idaho) that screwed over the Big Sky in the first place with their FBS ambitions.

BSU will find a home for their Olympic sports either way, whether that's in the Big Sky or the California Bus League. I don't know what Idaho is going to do if the WAC folds. And if Air Force and Boise State leave the MWC, that means that any and all WAC schools will be jumping to take their place. Most likely MWC candidates are Utah State, and San Jose.

That leaves the WAC with Idaho, NMSU, and La Tech as football members.....plus Texas State in 2012 and UT-SA. If Utah State and San Jose go to the MWC, it makes more sense geographically for NMSU, La Tech, and those Texas schools to go to the Sun Belt. Seattle and Denver could go to either the Big Sky or Big West as they aren't football playing members.

That leaves Idaho isolated in terms of FBS football Conferences. If this scenario plays out, I wonder what their football options are going to be.........Big West or Big Sky for olympic sports and football somewhere else? Where? Big Sky for all sports? Drop football?

The next year or so if going to be really interesting.