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Portland State @ Oregon - GTS

Good points all around. The freshman gpa has been raised to 3.00 for HS graduates for quite some time now, but many still get in through the back door community college "transfer associates degree." They are considered co-enrolled lower-division students.

I think PSU is going first for greatness in numbers---a large student body size and greatly expanded university district---while simultaeously looking for comparative advantages of academic strength. We have a lot of Harvard and Berkeley grads on staff as faculty (perhaps PSU should specialize in hiring Reed grads---it would make sense and be a natural kind of thing to do).

President Wiewell talks about expected enrollment climbing up to 35,000 soon and then possibly realizing another leap in magnitude after that. This will drive the physical growth of the university district east and southeast relative to the present core area. He wants also to simultaneously raise academic standards while continuing to expand metro area relationships.

I agree that PSU's mission needs to be about graduating high-powered earners and donors, eventually leaving the "access issues" to the community colleges, WOU, SOU, EOU, COU, and the Boise States of the world. It needs not to be the "we'll take anybody" type institution.

Perhaps when the optimal student body size is realized and retention challenges are met, say, a decade hence, the university will be free to focus attention and energy much more weightily on the qualitative academic aspects---the good stuff. PSU should then first emulate Houston and then maybe even Pittsburgh. Rough economic mission ahead first, more elegant academic mission then to then fill in the space.
 
What makes you think Houston is a role model? Outside of their law school, that is. Count the Phd programs? They look a lot like PSU to me, Admittedly, they started back in the 1920s - but that doesn't seem to have given them an academic edge.

Nor does a higher GPA entrance mean better academics. Just means we faculty have to work harder ( I admit a Reedie student is easier to teach). It does affect how people see us - people who don't look at the academic realities ("Just a commuter school". "Just a working class school". "Just a community college".) Sort of, how U of O faculty see us. :-)
 
Let them. No one would argue that PSU is moving in the right direction, and that's the only thing that matters. Public perception changes slowly in Oregon, but people and media are beginning to realize that there is good education with an increasing number of nationally recognized programs right in downtown Portland. I don't mind reading more about PSU in the O's business section than in Sports.

Good points all around. The freshman gpa has been raised to 3.00 for HS graduates for quite some time now, but many still get in through the back door community college "transfer associates degree." They are considered co-enrolled lower-division students.
The University of California system has the same policy, and so do the University of Florida and probably many other top-caliber public universities. Community college grads may not identify with their university as much as traditional students, but they have proven that they can college-level work, and I'd suspect they have pretty decent graduation rates.
 

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