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Predictions JSU vs. EWU EWU 35 JSU 24 On to Semi's

On that same note, you can almost tell when Vernon is in his happy place, because he just looks super natural in making the decision to run or throw. You could tell against Montana State and Oregon State, for example, that he knew he was unstoppable. Every decision just seemed spot on, and when that quick run read is part of his game, our offense has an entirely different dimension. When the opportunity presented, he'd bolt from the pocket and even make cuts in the open field.

In a couple of other games, like against Toledo and South Dakota State, he just didn't seem to have that same instinct. I think Toledo was just a rougher matchup because of their team speed. I don't see Jacksonville State having that same speed, although they certainly aren't slow on D.

That said, damn, I wouldn't want to play against Eastern's offense.
 
LDopaPDX said:
I think sacks with an over/under of 4 is a decent bet if Jacksonville State tries to bring the pressure like they did against McNeese. While Adams is more elusive than most running backs, he is a bit more prone to sacks than you might realize at first glance. He sort has that same big play mentality that Taiwan Jones did; every know and then, it would result in a monumental failure and big lost yardage... but when it works, holy shit, it is a thing of beauty.

The difference, IMO, is that Vernon has a much more natural "football sense" about him and generally knows when it is OK to take a big risk and when it is a bad idea. Therefore, when the sacks happen, it usually isn't a major problem.

If I had one complaint about Vernon (and you pretty much have to look for something to criticize, because he has been darn near flawless), it's that he sometimes looks to throw when he can just take easy yardage with his feet. I always prefer to make the first down yardage before trying to do more. Sometimes Vernon looks like Moses when our OL parts the opposing DL like the Red Sea, and he has nothing but daylight in front of him, yet he still chooses to throw. That's the only thing that makes me unhappy.

This must be something that is ingrained in QB's DNA. Bo Levi did that a lot too. Matt Nichols was the only QB I can remember that really understood when to run and when to throw.
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Yes, I have noticed this too. I think it is just really difficult to keep track of your receivers, coverage, the defensive line and have your peripheral open for a running lane. On the list of priorities, I would have the searching for a running lane very low, if not lowest. So, it doesn't upset me as much when he doesn't run. Boy he can tear up defenses when he sees the opportunity, though!
 
Haven't we heard Vern tell us specifically that part of his approach this season was to dial down how often he pulls down the ball and runs? I think that change has been affected intentionally, however, I would agree that lately I might ask for a bit more from his feet when the opportunities present themselves.
 
Rjones61 said:
LDopaPDX said:
I think sacks with an over/under of 4 is a decent bet if Jacksonville State tries to bring the pressure like they did against McNeese. While Adams is more elusive than most running backs, he is a bit more prone to sacks than you might realize at first glance. He sort has that same big play mentality that Taiwan Jones did; every know and then, it would result in a monumental failure and big lost yardage... but when it works, holy shit, it is a thing of beauty.

The difference, IMO, is that Vernon has a much more natural "football sense" about him and generally knows when it is OK to take a big risk and when it is a bad idea. Therefore, when the sacks happen, it usually isn't a major problem.

If I had one complaint about Vernon (and you pretty much have to look for something to criticize, because he has been darn near flawless), it's that he sometimes looks to throw when he can just take easy yardage with his feet. I always prefer to make the first down yardage before trying to do more. Sometimes Vernon looks like Moses when our OL parts the opposing DL like the Red Sea, and he has nothing but daylight in front of him, yet he still chooses to throw. That's the only thing that makes me unhappy.

This must be something that is ingrained in QB's DNA. Bo Levi did that a lot too. Matt Nichols was the only QB I can remember that really understood when to run and when to throw.
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Yes, I have noticed this too. I think it is just really difficult to keep track of your receivers, coverage, the defensive line and have your peripheral open for a running lane. On the list of priorities, I would have the searching for a running lane very low, if not lowest. So, it doesn't upset me as much when he doesn't run. Boy he can tear up defenses when he sees the opportunity, though!
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I agree that it should be a lower priority, and it's hard for me to judge since I wasn't a QB. It just seems like when you look downfield and see no one in front of you for 20 yards, you'd want to take off. Then again, if you're totally focused on the routes, you might not even notice that you have a lot of open space in front of you.
 
LDopaPDX said:
Rjones61 said:
LDopaPDX said:
I think sacks with an over/under of 4 is a decent bet if Jacksonville State tries to bring the pressure like they did against McNeese. While Adams is more elusive than most running backs, he is a bit more prone to sacks than you might realize at first glance. He sort has that same big play mentality that Taiwan Jones did; every know and then, it would result in a monumental failure and big lost yardage... but when it works, holy shit, it is a thing of beauty.

The difference, IMO, is that Vernon has a much more natural "football sense" about him and generally knows when it is OK to take a big risk and when it is a bad idea. Therefore, when the sacks happen, it usually isn't a major problem.

If I had one complaint about Vernon (and you pretty much have to look for something to criticize, because he has been darn near flawless), it's that he sometimes looks to throw when he can just take easy yardage with his feet. I always prefer to make the first down yardage before trying to do more. Sometimes Vernon looks like Moses when our OL parts the opposing DL like the Red Sea, and he has nothing but daylight in front of him, yet he still chooses to throw. That's the only thing that makes me unhappy.

This must be something that is ingrained in QB's DNA. Bo Levi did that a lot too. Matt Nichols was the only QB I can remember that really understood when to run and when to throw.
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Yes, I have noticed this too. I think it is just really difficult to keep track of your receivers, coverage, the defensive line and have your peripheral open for a running lane. On the list of priorities, I would have the searching for a running lane very low, if not lowest. So, it doesn't upset me as much when he doesn't run. Boy he can tear up defenses when he sees the opportunity, though!
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I agree that it should be a lower priority, and it's hard for me to judge since I wasn't a QB. It just seems like when you look downfield and see no one in front of you for 20 yards, you'd want to take off. Then again, if you're totally focused on the routes, you might not even notice that you have a lot of open space in front of you.
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Yeah, that is what I was thinking. Vernon is a very good decision maker, and I can't even fathom how he keeps track of so many things at once. Then again, what do I know. I was a lineman! :lol:
 
LDopaPDX said:
On that same note, you can almost tell when Vernon is in his happy place, because he just looks super natural in making the decision to run or throw. You could tell against Montana State and Oregon State, for example, that he knew he was unstoppable. Every decision just seemed spot on, and when that quick run read is part of his game, our offense has an entirely different dimension. When the opportunity presented, he'd bolt from the pocket and even make cuts in the open field.

In a couple of other games, like against Toledo and South Dakota State, he just didn't seem to have that same instinct. I think Toledo was just a rougher matchup because of their team speed. I don't see Jacksonville State having that same speed, although they certainly aren't slow on D.

That said, damn, I wouldn't want to play against Eastern's offense.
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He's a sophomore
 
clawman said:
LDopaPDX said:
On that same note, you can almost tell when Vernon is in his happy place, because he just looks super natural in making the decision to run or throw. You could tell against Montana State and Oregon State, for example, that he knew he was unstoppable. Every decision just seemed spot on, and when that quick run read is part of his game, our offense has an entirely different dimension. When the opportunity presented, he'd bolt from the pocket and even make cuts in the open field.

In a couple of other games, like against Toledo and South Dakota State, he just didn't seem to have that same instinct. I think Toledo was just a rougher matchup because of their team speed. I don't see Jacksonville State having that same speed, although they certainly aren't slow on D.

That said, damn, I wouldn't want to play against Eastern's offense.
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He's a sophomore
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VA has a great demeanor. Off the field he is fun and affable, on the field focused, deadly and forgets a bad play as well as any DB. Add another year of seasoning with all the returning talent at WR, RB and OL and sky's the limit. Think like Dopa, VA's legs can be the difference in this game early. Don't want to see VA getting "over-coached" and start thinking too much about other things than making plays but will need to run some on drops to neutralize JSU rush IMO. Of course, we could just hand it off to our multi headed RB monster and turn it loose. :nod:
 
Predators: 44
Prey: 28



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Its too much to play 3 playoff games & two back to back on the road.... and in very cold weather. Travel takes its toll. Not to mention EWU is the better team.

EWU is on fire right now.
42-17 EWU :coffee:
 
You run a 4-3 look with a linebacker that slides out of normal routes into deep cover when you have 2 or more receivers. When the flats have two rbs that could be in transition, you stay in a 4-3. One of your ends will drop back on passing downs when on the wide side of the field giving the appearance of a 3-4 look. When you have a line backer with primary coverage of the 5 or 6 route pattern he is considered a safety while lined up at linebacker depth. Therefore it is called a 4-2-5.

I like your multiple looks. It is basically a shell game to keep QB's guessing while not changing a lot of personnel. It will also help you with our up tempo style. It comes down to this. If you can contain our multi headed running monster, you will win. If we can get the option working with James running in the 3-5-7 holes with the ability of Eli to pull and hit the 7-9 hole. it will be a long day for you. You haven't really had a problem doing that this year, but I feel we will have the best rushing attack you have seen this year. It will be a fun chess match to watch.


Interesting statement at the end here. It seemed fishy to me so I took a peek and Cal Poly, PSU and SHSU are ranked 1, 3 and 6 as rushing offenses. Does he legitimately think JSU runs the ball better than these three teams or has he just not done his homework? I want to ask him but I continue to be locked out of their boards.

And on a side note, I am comforted by the knowledge that two of these teams had to bail to the pass to try to beat us. Less comforted by the fact that the other one succeeded in beating us.
 
JPhillips71 said:
You run a 4-3 look with a linebacker that slides out of normal routes into deep cover when you have 2 or more receivers. When the flats have two rbs that could be in transition, you stay in a 4-3. One of your ends will drop back on passing downs when on the wide side of the field giving the appearance of a 3-4 look. When you have a line backer with primary coverage of the 5 or 6 route pattern he is considered a safety while lined up at linebacker depth. Therefore it is called a 4-2-5.

I like your multiple looks. It is basically a shell game to keep QB's guessing while not changing a lot of personnel. It will also help you with our up tempo style. It comes down to this. If you can contain our multi headed running monster, you will win. If we can get the option working with James running in the 3-5-7 holes with the ability of Eli to pull and hit the 7-9 hole. it will be a long day for you. You haven't really had a problem doing that this year, but I feel we will have the best rushing attack you have seen this year. It will be a fun chess match to watch.


Interesting statement at the end here. It seemed fishy to me so I took a peek and Cal Poly, PSU and SHSU are ranked 1, 3 and 6 as rushing offenses. Does he legitimately think JSU runs the ball better than these three teams or has he just not done his homework? I want to ask him but I continue to be locked out of their boards.

And on a side note, I am comforted by the knowledge that two of these teams had to bail to the pass to try to beat us. Less comforted by the fact that the other one succeeded in beating us.
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but I feel we will have the best rushing attack you have seen this year.
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Yeah, this is a dubious statement. As you mentioned, CP, SHSU, and PSU all having higher rated rushing attacks. SDSU also had a really good back. I'm not hugely concerned with one-dimensional running teams...we've had good success against those this season. If Eastern is able to effectively slow down the running game, JSU is in big trouble in this game.
 
EWURanger said:
JPhillips71 said:
You run a 4-3 look with a linebacker that slides out of normal routes into deep cover when you have 2 or more receivers. When the flats have two rbs that could be in transition, you stay in a 4-3. One of your ends will drop back on passing downs when on the wide side of the field giving the appearance of a 3-4 look. When you have a line backer with primary coverage of the 5 or 6 route pattern he is considered a safety while lined up at linebacker depth. Therefore it is called a 4-2-5.

I like your multiple looks. It is basically a shell game to keep QB's guessing while not changing a lot of personnel. It will also help you with our up tempo style. It comes down to this. If you can contain our multi headed running monster, you will win. If we can get the option working with James running in the 3-5-7 holes with the ability of Eli to pull and hit the 7-9 hole. it will be a long day for you. You haven't really had a problem doing that this year, but I feel we will have the best rushing attack you have seen this year. It will be a fun chess match to watch.


Interesting statement at the end here. It seemed fishy to me so I took a peek and Cal Poly, PSU and SHSU are ranked 1, 3 and 6 as rushing offenses. Does he legitimately think JSU runs the ball better than these three teams or has he just not done his homework? I want to ask him but I continue to be locked out of their boards.

And on a side note, I am comforted by the knowledge that two of these teams had to bail to the pass to try to beat us. Less comforted by the fact that the other one succeeded in beating us.
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but I feel we will have the best rushing attack you have seen this year.
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Yeah, this is a dubious statement. As you mentioned, CP, SHSU, and PSU all having higher rated rushing attacks. SDSU also had a really good back. I'm not hugely concerned with one-dimensional running teams...we've had good success against those this season. If Eastern is able to effectively slow down the running game, JSU is in big trouble in this game.
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Their QB throws it well and can burn us. He's not like Bell or a Poly QB.
 
luckyintheorder,
I must be honest with you, and all. I was kind of worried when I saw JSU on the field, they seemed so calm doing their thing. Once I saw the first possession of the game, I became happy, told one of my friend sitting with us in the game, my worries became a victory at the end of the game. That was a great game. One of my friend who attended EWU, he and his brother both played football for us years ago, his dad a retired WSP, became an avid EAGLE FAN. We kept talking about the 3rd qtr. We didn't do as well points wise. Big Freshman Albert Havili did his job, and that dude is faster than I taught. Our defense played kind of sporatic, but came through when they had to. I figured Cooper Cupp would have gotten about 3 TD. him and Ashton, made the catches when they had to. In case you haven't heard, our game against Towson, will be on Saturday 11 A.M., will be on ESPN2 #209 DTV. I love the way each showed their appreciation of an Outstanding Game, even one of JSU Player ##55, kept attempting to become a trouble maker with each one of our Player he came in contact with. I guest that is part of the game. Go eagles!!! Vic Wallace p.s. let get tis one and go on to Frisco.
 
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