#RoadtoReno - Funny Stuff

[SWWeatherCat]

In the next round of considerations, my vote would be to scrap it all together.

Right, because in addition to the exciting home schedule let's remove every opportunity for any remaining fans to get some entertaining basketball at their home court.

I realize it's already progressed to this point (for three years anyway) but why play any games at all? Just have single elimination coin flip tournament. That would save a lot of money and could be held anywhere-- say DF's home-- to not incur difficult and costly travel. It's the 21st Century for hell sake! It doesn't take a genius to figure out team travel to places traveled to during the season and that have been traveled to for decades! It's beyond stupid. You're all telling me the BSC is unable to solve a few problems or potential problems with regards to tournament travel? :willybs: Ultimately, it's about money and giving a sh1t less about the fans or players. My head hurts. :wall:

 

[Wildcat_Fan]

SO random thought. Why send all the teams to the tourney? I tried asking the commish and he said if we dont send all the teams it is no better than the old format of trying to get flights and hotels, as some schools wont know if they are going til the week before.
SO??? The problem was not being able to get into Hotels and Flights into more rural areas not Reno... Now that we have a predetermined site, our hotels should be holding enough rooms for the teams and you now have THREE air ports that you can travel to (Reno, SLC, Vegas). I know you can find a flight to one of those three places on short notice.
Correct me if Im wrong but I feel that would work. This at least keep the regular season relevant..

Also speaking of not traveling, are the games on national tv? Im assuming big sky tv wont be showing the games but what TV station wants to cover Big Sky games in Reno?

 

[sacstateman]

If you have traveled very much by air, you know that tickets bought on short notice are much more expensive than tix bought 6 months in advance....when you multiply that by 2 teams, times approximately 20 people per team, the difference in expense becomes quite a pile of money....I know that last time you hosted the tourney (2014) our team had to fly to Los Angeles, to Las Vegas and then to Salt Lake City and that was from a reasonably sized airport (Sac International)....so it's not just the hotel room availability that has to be considered....

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

If you have traveled very much by air, you know that tickets bought on short notice are much more expensive than tix bought 6 months in advance....when you multiply that by 2 teams, times approximately 20 people per team, the difference in expense becomes quite a pile of money....I know that last time you hosted the tourney (2014) our team had to fly to Los Angeles, to Las Vegas and then to Salt Lake City and that was from a reasonably sized airport (Sac International)....so it's not just the hotel room availability that has to be considered....

It isn't our fault that Sac went with Southwest. You can fly direct on Delta, United, Frontier, and Alaskan from four different airports in your area. And if you would have driven to Oakland, you can fly direct on Southwest.

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

We all know what the problem is.

1. Keep Idaho happy. Why I don't know?
2. UND has really messed things up for travel.

 

[Wildcat_Fan]

If you have traveled very much by air, you know that tickets bought on short notice are much more expensive than tix bought 6 months in advance....when you multiply that by 2 teams, times approximately 20 people per team, the difference in expense becomes quite a pile of money....I know that last time you hosted the tourney (2014) our team had to fly to Los Angeles, to Las Vegas and then to Salt Lake City and that was from a reasonably sized airport (Sac International)....so it's not just the hotel room availability that has to be considered....

It isn't our fault that Sac went with Southwest. You can fly direct on Delta, United, Frontier, and Alaskan from four different airports in your area. And if you would have driven to Oakland, you can fly direct on Southwest.

Yes I have flown a great deal and I understand it is more expensive to buy tickets at the last moment. But you can also make projections based on how your teams are playing and buy tickets in advance for those who are playing well. For the teams who are still fighting on the last day of the regular season, tickets to SLC and Vegas are much cheaper last minute than some of the alternative options, like getting to Mizzoula or Fairbanks.

Were stuck in Reno for 3 years. I just think we need to keep the regular season relevant..

Also, dont you think teams would have more fight in them after they worked their a$$ off to get to the tourney than just everyone showing up regardless of their records. Going into the season everyone knows were going to Reno so save your enegy cuz the season starts there.

 

[n.ogdencat]

If you have traveled very much by air, you know that tickets bought on short notice are much more expensive than tix bought 6 months in advance....when you multiply that by 2 teams, times approximately 20 people per team, the difference in expense becomes quite a pile of money....I know that last time you hosted the tourney (2014) our team had to fly to Los Angeles, to Las Vegas and then to Salt Lake City and that was from a reasonably sized airport (Sac International)....so it's not just the hotel room availability that has to be considered....

It isn't our fault that Sac went with Southwest. You can fly direct on Delta, United, Frontier, and Alaskan from four different airports in your area. And if you would have driven to Oakland, you can fly direct on Southwest.

Yes I have flown a great deal and I understand it is more expensive to buy tickets at the last moment. But you can also make projections based on how your teams are playing and buy tickets in advance for those who are playing well. For the teams who are still fighting on the last day of the regular season, tickets to SLC and Vegas are much cheaper last minute than some of the alternative options, like getting to Mizzoula or Fairbanks.

Were stuck in Reno for 3 years. I just think we need to keep the regular season relevant..

Also, dont you think teams would have more fight in them after they worked their a$$ off to get to the tourney than just everyone showing up regardless of their records. Going into the season everyone knows were going to Reno so save your enegy cuz the season starts there.

100% Agreed!

The season is no longer relevant. This is a terrible format. Yes, I'm glad that the top teams get byes, but that to me isn't enough. The best team should have ALL of the advantages, that means home court. If that can't be the case and your are making up reason to have a tournament, save the money, and just cancel it. No need for a tournament if it isn't set up in a way to ensure the best teams advancement. I know that they are hoping to become a 2 bid league. THAT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN by suddenly having a post-season tourny in Reno. You have to improve overall SOS, RPI, and conference RPI. The conference needs more and better DI games at home. If Doug couldn't do that while he was on the NCAA Basketball Committee why would he suddenly be able to get that done now? P5 conferences buy their way into the Dance with 20 home games per year. The NCAA needs to get serious and take that option away. Road wins (or close losses) should count far more than an OOC win over a sub-300 team (I'm pointing at you Utah).

 

[sacstateman]

If you have traveled very much by air, you know that tickets bought on short notice are much more expensive than tix bought 6 months in advance....when you multiply that by 2 teams, times approximately 20 people per team, the difference in expense becomes quite a pile of money....I know that last time you hosted the tourney (2014) our team had to fly to Los Angeles, to Las Vegas and then to Salt Lake City and that was from a reasonably sized airport (Sac International)....so it's not just the hotel room availability that has to be considered....

It isn't our fault that Sac went with Southwest. You can fly direct on Delta, United, Frontier, and Alaskan from four different airports in your area. And if you would have driven to Oakland, you can fly direct on Southwest.

I'm positive that you have made travel arrangements for a party of 20, on 2 days notice so I won't bother to try to enlighten you.....BTW, I didn't say it was your fault.....I don't know this for sure but I would venture a guess that the person booking flights for Sac St has booked 1000's more flights than you have and probably has forgotten more about booking flights than you will ever know......BTW, it will be real nice in Reno without seeing a bunch of purple walking around town.....

 

[wsucatfan]

BTW, it will be real nice in Reno without seeing a bunch of purple walking around town.....

You are right, but the same will go for just about every other BSC school, the major color in the basketball arena will be whatever the empty seat color is.

 

[sacstateman]

I shouldn't have said that but my frustration is starting to show...as has been said here many times "The BSC tourney is in Reno for the next three years"....it becomes frustrating when a fact like this is worked over every way it possibly could be worked but then it is worked over every way it can be worked then it is worked over every way it can be worked.....get the picture?? When you guys were poking fun at the slogan it was ok, then it digresses to reinventing the wheel for the umpteenth time...The BSC tourney IS in Reno the next 3 years and obviously you are going to vote with your feet which is the way it should be....if enough people vote like you then I would expect a change in 3 years...until then it is what it is................ :wall:

 

[oldrunner]

I am going to Reno.

If I believe in the tournament format or not, I still believe in my team, my school, and my community. Reno is a nice town to visit. It is not a horrible drive. Some of my family from California can also get there easily.

I may not always support what the BSC does, but I do support my team.

In the long run, it may be better to scrap the thing all together, but in the mean time, I will not punish myself because of what the BSC is doing.

Purple will be the dominant color in Reno. :thumb: :thumb:

 

[n.ogdencat]

I shouldn't have said that but my frustration is starting to show...as has been said here many times "The BSC tourney is in Reno for the next three years"....it becomes frustrating when a fact like this is worked over every way it possibly could be worked but then it is worked over every way it can be worked then it is worked over every way it can be worked.....get the picture?? When you guys were poking fun at the slogan it was ok, then it digresses to reinventing the wheel for the umpteenth time...The BSC tourney IS in Reno the next 3 years and obviously you are going to vote with your feet which is the way it should be....if enough people vote like you then I would expect a change in 3 years...until then it is what it is................ :wall:

Ugh...I can't believe I'm going to admit this, but Sac is right. Reno is the tournament destination for the next three years. However, I still reserve my right to constantly beotch about this terrible decision. :lol:

Regardless...if this is how the conference is planning on promoting the tournament, then we can all expect three years of the national media mocking and belittling the Big Sky Conference. There is an entire team working on this and the best they could come up with is someone else's slogan? This is already lacking originality.

 

[Skippy]

I shouldn't have said that but my frustration is starting to show...as has been said here many times "The BSC tourney is in Reno for the next three years"....it becomes frustrating when a fact like this is worked over every way it possibly could be worked but then it is worked over every way it can be worked then it is worked over every way it can be worked.....get the picture?? When you guys were poking fun at the slogan it was ok, then it digresses to reinventing the wheel for the umpteenth time...The BSC tourney IS in Reno the next 3 years and obviously you are going to vote with your feet which is the way it should be....if enough people vote like you then I would expect a change in 3 years...until then it is what it is................ :wall:

Ugh...I can't believe I'm going to admit this, but Sac is right. Reno is the tournament destination for the next three years. However, I still reserve my right to constantly beotch about this terrible decision. :lol:

Regardless...if this is how the conference is planning on promoting the tournament, then we can all expect three years of the national media mocking and belittling the Big Sky Conference. There is an entire team working on this and the best they could come up with is someone else's slogan? This is already lacking originality.

If the national media mocked the Big Sky's efforts, I'd consider it a huge success! But the national media doesn't give two wits about the Big Sky Conference, its post-season tournament or its marketing efforts. The Big Sky is what it is -- a nice home for nice, little college basketball programs who play very mediocre basketball and who, every 10 or 15 years or so, puts together a team good enough to steal a first-round NCAA tournament game.


First, let me say I enjoy Big Sky basketball because, hey, here in Pocatello it's all we got. I enjoy going to the games, I enjoy those times when we throw Weber fans into a tizzy with an upset win, and I REALLY enjoy those increasingly rare seasons when Idaho State has a competitive team. But let's be real here:

The Big Sky is a league of bad to mediocre players, coaches, officials, administrators, media, fan bases -- you name it. I'd call it a stepping stone league, but really, when is the last time a Big Sky basketball coach went on to success in the "big leagues?"

I mean really, who cares what the marketing slogan is for the post-season tournament? Do you think it's going to influence anybody in Spokane or Fargo to go out and buy a ticket to Reno, no matter how brilliantly original it is? But if you insist on something original how about, "The Big Sky Tournament: where fans with low self-esteem come to feel better about themselves."

 

[SWeberCat02]

I shouldn't have said that but my frustration is starting to show...as has been said here many times "The BSC tourney is in Reno for the next three years"....it becomes frustrating when a fact like this is worked over every way it possibly could be worked but then it is worked over every way it can be worked then it is worked over every way it can be worked.....get the picture?? When you guys were poking fun at the slogan it was ok, then it digresses to reinventing the wheel for the umpteenth time...The BSC tourney IS in Reno the next 3 years and obviously you are going to vote with your feet which is the way it should be....if enough people vote like you then I would expect a change in 3 years...until then it is what it is................ :wall:

Ugh...I can't believe I'm going to admit this, but Sac is right. Reno is the tournament destination for the next three years. However, I still reserve my right to constantly beotch about this terrible decision. :lol:

Regardless...if this is how the conference is planning on promoting the tournament, then we can all expect three years of the national media mocking and belittling the Big Sky Conference. There is an entire team working on this and the best they could come up with is someone else's slogan? This is already lacking originality.

If the national media mocked the Big Sky's efforts, I'd consider it a huge success! But the national media doesn't give two wits about the Big Sky Conference, its post-season tournament or its marketing efforts. The Big Sky is what it is -- a nice home for nice, little college basketball programs who play very mediocre basketball and who, every 10 or 15 years or so, puts together a team good enough to steal a first-round NCAA tournament game.


First, let me say I enjoy Big Sky basketball because, hey, here in Pocatello it's all we got. I enjoy going to the games, I enjoy those times when we throw Weber fans into a tizzy with an upset win, and I REALLY enjoy those increasingly rare seasons when Idaho State has a competitive team. But let's be real here:

The Big Sky is a league of bad to mediocre players, coaches, officials, administrators, media, fan bases -- you name it. I'd call it a stepping stone league, but really, when is the last time a Big Sky basketball coach went on to success in the "big leagues?"

I mean really, who cares what the marketing slogan is for the post-season tournament? Do you think it's going to influence anybody in Spokane or Fargo to go out and buy a ticket to Reno, no matter how brilliantly original it is? But if you insist on something original how about, "The Big Sky Tournament: where fans with low self-esteem come to feel better about themselves."

Bengal, that's a perfect summary of Big Sky basketball. I find it comical what some of the coaches said at the media day. Things like "we're working to be a two bid league" and "this new tournament format will improve the conference's national brand." :rofl: The conference is what it is and will never be much more. Just enjoy it (or don't) for what it is and give up the pipe dream that it will ever be anything else.

http://www.standard.net/Sports/2015/10/07/big-sky-basketball-conference-tournament-reno.html

 

[oldrunner]

Wow! What a load of crap!

Sure, it might be hard to grow the BSC. That does not mean that everyone should just give up. :wall:

I don't believe in giving up. I'm for continuing the fight, no matter what anyone thinks about it.

Sure, marketing is suspect and resources may be limited, but accepting the status quo is not preferable to me. I may not like everything the BSC does, but I respect that they are doing something other than throwing in the towel. :thumb: :thumb:

 

[n.ogdencat]

I know it is a moot point and I'm well aware that nothing is going to change what has been decided. Yes, the tournament is in Reno for the next 3 years...but to be honest, this whole Reno thing is killing my excitement for Weber State Basketball. I can't remember a time in my life that I wasn't going nuts this time of year waiting for basketball to start. Forget rewarding the team, that in and of itself is an absolute crime that they aren't receiving it, there isn't a reward for the fans, community, and university of the team who will win the regular season championship. To me, it just means a long car ride to Reno, which is something I definitely don't want to do. Reno is not a destination city. It is not a place I want to spend money visiting.

I was watching the second half of the 2003 Championship Game, and just fuming over the idiocy of the Sky. You will never have an atmosphere like that in Reno. I went to the 2013 Championship in Missoula and that was an amazing atmosphere. Montana never would have won that game on a neutral court, but got it done at home. They won the regular season crown, and earned that right to host and it was amazing, I hated it, but it was a great basketball experience. Even though our marketing guy blew it, like normal, even the 2014 Championship was amazing at the Dee. You just won't have that experience in Reno. It will not happen, even if the place, shockingly, gets sold out. There won't be that type of fan connectiveness like a home arena can promote and provides.

Let me make this clear...IT WILL NEVER be like that in Reno. My in-laws, major BYU fans, loved going to the old MW tournament in Las Vegas, but hated the fact that it was always a home court advantage for UNLV. BYU may have been the best team, but were usually homered in Vegas, but the MWC could get multiple bids. If the NCAA would assure the Sky that the regular season champ got a bid, if another team won the tournament, that would be great, but THEY ARE NOT. This isn't the way to manufacture a second bid. Terrible decision by the conference. It is killing my love for Weber State Basketball. I'm just not excited and the Purple and White game is next week. I must not be alone because nobody has said anything about that quickly approaching game.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

I'm right there with ya, tal. You can throw in the gem of a home schedule and the combination really has me down. I'm very excited to see what this "new" team can do and the wait to see Braxton play has been brutal. Still, I'm being notified to renew my tix or they'll open the seats up for someone else and I keep waiting for a compelling reason to do so and haven't been able to get there. WSU season basketball tix may as well of been part of my identity over the years but I'm just completely soured on where the BSC & WSU has gone.

 

[Webergrad02]

And just like that, Montana State women's basketball has given the Big Sky a better slogan then road to Reno.

Big Sky Conference Tournament - John Stockton will be there, will you?

 

[Webergrad02]

It looks like Weber will get a taste of what the Big Sky tournament will look like in Reno this year. Both Germain Arena and the Reno events center have capacities of 7,000 fans for basketball. Looks like there is maybe a few hundred in the seats. This is what the road to reno looks like.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

That's great! It will be good for our team to experience an empty arena. We wouldn't want to be the least experienced team going into Reno, because we know what that leads to.