Seattle U vs Portland State thread

[forestgreen]

Vikings Return Home At 5-1, Host Seattle U. On Saturday

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[ManOfVision]

Wish we didn't have three games in a row that won't count toward our RPI.

 

[VikThunder1]

What's the all-time series record between Seattle U and PSU?

Now that Seattle U has moved up to DI, I think this could develop into a rivalry since Bone is from Seattle and we recruit up there a lot.

 

[WiViking]

As long as the Big Sky is a bad conference, RPI doesn't matter. The only way a team might be able to get into the dance and not win the conference tourney is by going undefeated during the regular season.

 

[GustaViking]

Sounds like an admirable goal !!
Let's do that. Go Viks !!

 

[Grant H]

As long as the Big Sky is a bad conference, RPI doesn't matter. The only way a team might be able to get into the dance and not win the conference tourney is by going undefeated during the regular season.

I disagree, obviously we're not going to get an at-large bid to the tournament, but our RPI will effect that seed that we get should we get an automatic bid. Moving up from a 15 or 16 seed to a 13 or 14 could mean having a lot better chance to win a first round game in the NCAAs

 

[GustaViking]

I meant having an undefeated regular season !!!

 

[WiViking]

If you're concerned about RPI, just hope the Pilots can continue to do what they're doing.

 

[ManOfVision]

As long as the Big Sky is a bad conference, RPI doesn't matter. The only way a team might be able to get into the dance and not win the conference tourney is by going undefeated during the regular season.

I disagree, obviously we're not going to get an at-large bid to the tournament, but our RPI will effect that seed that we get should we get an automatic bid. Moving up from a 15 or 16 seed to a 13 or 14 could mean having a lot better chance to win a first round game in the NCAAs

Thanks, Grant H. I seem to have to make this same argument every single year. RPI is huge for PSU as it and conference RPI are the two main things that will determine what seed PSU will receive if it wins the conference tourny. If PSU plays transitional schools like Seattle and lower division schools like L&C, they are robbing themselves of potential RPI building wins while not really collecting any benefit from the games.

 

[VikThunder1]

As long as the Big Sky is a bad conference, RPI doesn't matter. The only way a team might be able to get into the dance and not win the conference tourney is by going undefeated during the regular season.

I disagree, obviously we're not going to get an at-large bid to the tournament, but our RPI will effect that seed that we get should we get an automatic bid. Moving up from a 15 or 16 seed to a 13 or 14 could mean having a lot better chance to win a first round game in the NCAAs

Thanks, Grant H. I seem to have to make this same argument every single year. RPI is huge for PSU as it and conference RPI are the two main things that will determine what seed PSU will receive if it wins the conference tourny. If PSU plays transitional schools like Seattle and lower division schools like L&C, they are robbing themselves of potential RPI building wins while not really collecting any benefit from the games.

This is an age old topic of debate. I don't think the Vikings can schedule top RPI teams frequently unless we want to be constantly on the road. We need some home games and Seattle U and L&C are the few teams we will be able to get unless it is a return game from a Fullerton situation or a rivalry like UP. We have some big schools on our schedule like Washington and Gonzaga. They'll help RPI but it will be tough to beat them.

 

[martymoose]

As long as the Big Sky is a bad conference, RPI doesn't matter. The only way a team might be able to get into the dance and not win the conference tourney is by going undefeated during the regular season.

I disagree, obviously we're not going to get an at-large bid to the tournament, but our RPI will effect that seed that we get should we get an automatic bid. Moving up from a 15 or 16 seed to a 13 or 14 could mean having a lot better chance to win a first round game in the NCAAs

Thanks, Grant H. I seem to have to make this same argument every single year. RPI is huge for PSU as it and conference RPI are the two main things that will determine what seed PSU will receive if it wins the conference tourny. If PSU plays transitional schools like Seattle and lower division schools like L&C, they are robbing themselves of potential RPI building wins while not really collecting any benefit from the games.

This is an age old topic of debate. I don't think the Vikings can schedule top RPI teams frequently unless we want to be constantly on the road. We need some home games and Seattle U and L&C are the few teams we will be able to get unless it is a return game from a Fullerton situation or a rivalry like UP. We have some big schools on our schedule like Washington and Gonzaga. They'll help RPI but it will be tough to beat them.

Why can't we play OSU and UO every year? Not that OSU would do anything good for RPI. ;-)

They play Big Sky teams (UO played UNC earlier, OSU played MSU earlier). Next to nothing to travel down I5 to play them, plus it'll give us a chance to break out our PSU flags on our cars. I recall us playing UO in the Rose Garden years back and that was basically a home game for UO. However, we are a much different program this year. Another thought is this. With our improved performance on the court, I would think that we'll be in line for better tournaments in the pre / non-conference. That's another chance to play better teams on a neutral floor to possibly increase our RPI. That all comes down to winning, getting to the tourney, and getting our name out there as a quality program.

 

[ManOfVision]

As long as the Big Sky is a bad conference, RPI doesn't matter. The only way a team might be able to get into the dance and not win the conference tourney is by going undefeated during the regular season.

I disagree, obviously we're not going to get an at-large bid to the tournament, but our RPI will effect that seed that we get should we get an automatic bid. Moving up from a 15 or 16 seed to a 13 or 14 could mean having a lot better chance to win a first round game in the NCAAs

Thanks, Grant H. I seem to have to make this same argument every single year. RPI is huge for PSU as it and conference RPI are the two main things that will determine what seed PSU will receive if it wins the conference tourny. If PSU plays transitional schools like Seattle and lower division schools like L&C, they are robbing themselves of potential RPI building wins while not really collecting any benefit from the games.

This is an age old topic of debate. I don't think the Vikings can schedule top RPI teams frequently unless we want to be constantly on the road. We need some home games and Seattle U and L&C are the few teams we will be able to get unless it is a return game from a Fullerton situation or a rivalry like UP. We have some big schools on our schedule like Washington and Gonzaga. They'll help RPI but it will be tough to beat them.

You do raise a good point about how the Stott impacts this discussion. One of the reasons we need a new arena is to allow for better competition to play us at home.

 

[forestgreen]

Vikings Put 12-Game Home Court Win Streak On The Line This Saturday

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[WiViking]

That was an ugly game. Phil Nelson doesn't do anything, Jamie Jones wasn't assertive, and the Viks still win. On the plus side, Kyle Coston got in a fight with just about every big man Seattle had, and didn't get ejected.

 

[martymoose]

I had to miss the Seattle game.

Sounds like we were lucky to get a win.

Coston? Fighting?

 

[WiViking]

I guess PSU was lucky to win. They just couldn't rebound at all, and really didn't play Powers physically at all. Andre Murray threw down one of the best alley-oops you'll ever see over an SU defender. Murray and Waters just put the team on their backs and did what they needed to do.

Yes. Twice. First time 4 SU players were harassing him under the hoop and he swung his elbows, hitting Boxley in the face. Austen Powers got in a shoving match with Coston. In the second half, Kyle was talking smack and Leigh Swanson got really pissed and shoved him to the floor repeatedly, and got called for the technical.

 

[forestgreen]

Vikings lucky to win? I'm not sure what game you two were watching. In my opinion, the Vikings thought they were the better team (which they are), but didn't put the effort on the defensive side of the ball. That's why the game was close and with a couple of breaks Seattle could have won the game. Coston did some acting on the deliberate foul call, which wasn't ruled a technical. I don't think Coston should become our enforcer, as at 6-8 and 210 lbs he doesn't fit the bill. I agree that we rode Murray and Waters' backs, Nelson was completely useless, Mara's only offensive game is the 3-pointer. Possibly the Viking's worst performance this season. The alley-oop dunk by Murray was the dunk of the year so far at the Stott, Just outstanding.

Murray, Waters Lead Vikings To 13th Straight Win At Home

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COLLEGE BASKETBALL: PSU downs Seattle, 73-68
Waters, Murray combine for 35 points

http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story.php?story_id=122864283086469500

 

[martymoose]

What was up with Nelson? 0-6 and 3 turnovers? Did a double take on that one in the box score.

Also, nobody mentioned Thomas' play. Only 15 minutes, but the stats looked like those were solid bench minutes.

 

[DJViking]

The problem with this team is the lack of dribble penetration. The guards make zero effort to get into the lane, which lets the defenders play them close (since they are not going to get blown by), which means no passing lanes into the post, and fewer fouls/free throws, as well as a lack of kick-outs when the defense collapses. If our 3-point shooting is off, then we struggle even against inferior teams (Hampton, Seattle). I'm hoping once JD gets back, he'll start driving to the hoop, which will open things up for our motion offense a bit.

We are really going to miss the athleticism of Deonte Huff, and the size of Scott Morrison this year. Our starting "big man" should be playing the 4, not the 5, and our backup "big" is only 6'6". Once we start playing some teams with legit bigs, we're going to be in trouble.

 

[pdxfan]

I emphatically agree. Baylor's coming up, and they're all big. Let's see what happens. Not to mention Brockman and Washington.