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Short List for new HC
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oldrunner
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This is what I mean. Fans start naming off guys who have no track record as a head coach, whom they think will take us to a national championship. That is so 'out there' that it is hard to know how to respond to something like that.
All I know is that Randy is one of the winningest coaches ever to coach at WSU, or in the BSC for that matter, and that we went through some really down years before we found him. Maybe some of the guys you mention would be good, but we thought that about some other coaches we hired as well. It's not like you just go out to the local coaches store and pick the level of coaching you want, for the money you have to offer.
If other/bigger programs are interested in what we have, there is a reason for that. It's because we have a darn good thing going and they are recognizing that fact. We may not keep Randy for ever, but it will take a very good offer to get him out of Ogden. In the mean time, I love the guy and hope he sticks around until he retires.
All I know is that Randy is one of the winningest coaches ever to coach at WSU, or in the BSC for that matter, and that we went through some really down years before we found him. Maybe some of the guys you mention would be good, but we thought that about some other coaches we hired as well. It's not like you just go out to the local coaches store and pick the level of coaching you want, for the money you have to offer.
If other/bigger programs are interested in what we have, there is a reason for that. It's because we have a darn good thing going and they are recognizing that fact. We may not keep Randy for ever, but it will take a very good offer to get him out of Ogden. In the mean time, I love the guy and hope he sticks around until he retires.
oldrunner said:This is what I mean. Fans start naming off guys who have no track record as a head coach, whom they think will take us to a national championship. That is so 'out there' that it is hard to know how to respond to something like that.
All I know is that Randy is one of the winningest coaches ever to coach at WSU, or in the BSC for that matter, and that we went through some really down years before we found him. Maybe some of the guys you mention would be good, but we thought that about some other coaches we hired as well. It's not like you just go out to the local coaches store and pick the level of coaching you want, for the money you have to offer.
If other/bigger programs are interested in what we have, there is a reason for that. It's because we have a darn good thing going and they are recognizing that fact. We may not keep Randy for ever, but it will take a very good offer to get him out of Ogden. In the mean time, I love the guy and hope he sticks around until he retires.
And it sounds like you are okay with mediocracy, and not doing much other than what we have seen so far. All the more power to you olds. :notworthy:
oldrunner
Active member
No. Mediocrity is what you are seeing at ISU, NAU, Sac., SUU, PSU, UND, MSU, among others outside of the BSC.
What you are seeing is, year in and year out, WSU and UM near the top of the league.
You want several years of mediocrity, bring in an unproven coach, fire him in three years, bring in another one, fire him in a few years, bring in another one, fire him in a few years, and then just change the name of the school to NAU or SUU. :wall:
What you are seeing is, year in and year out, WSU and UM near the top of the league.
You want several years of mediocrity, bring in an unproven coach, fire him in three years, bring in another one, fire him in a few years, bring in another one, fire him in a few years, and then just change the name of the school to NAU or SUU. :wall:
Wildcat_Fan
Active member
WSUfan said:
Thats why I want to take the risk! we have a long line of successful coaches who have come through weber. I have no doubt we can find another
sacstateman
Active member
If that is what you want, you better hope UTEP or CSU takes him off your hands because his contract is not going to be bought out....after this game today, I don't see either school wanting him but it may be that he has already accepted an offer...I say this after watching Cal last year playing their last game for Cuonzo Martin...got totally destroyed by CSU Bakersfield...the next day Martin announces he is going to Missouri...everyone thinks his team knew he was leaving and gave up on him....maybe this is what is happening today...
SWWeatherCat
Active member
oldrunner said:This is what I mean. Fans start naming off guys who have no track record as a head coach, whom they think will take us to a national championship. That is so 'out there' that it is hard to know how to respond to something like that.
All I know is that Randy is one of the winningest coaches ever to coach at WSU, or in the BSC for that matter, and that we went through some really down years before we found him. Maybe some of the guys you mention would be good, but we thought that about some other coaches we hired as well. It's not like you just go out to the local coaches store and pick the level of coaching you want, for the money you have to offer.
If other/bigger programs are interested in what we have, there is a reason for that. It's because we have a darn good thing going and they are recognizing that fact. We may not keep Randy for ever, but it will take a very good offer to get him out of Ogden. In the mean time, I love the guy and hope he sticks around until he retires.
Don't be ridiculous, absolutely no one expects Weber to win a national championship-- ever, no matter the coach. Nor, has anyone on this board even hinted at that.
So, because Randy has a lot of wins against a schedule that has sucked the excitement out of some of the most devoted, longtime fans, that's reason to not expect a better return on a pricey investment of the highest paid coach in the conference? Interesting take. Just good enough, isn't! I've never supported the lack of merit-based employment and sure as hell wish Weber State didn't.
Your sometimes sanctimonious, almost narcissistic comments don't make you any more an expert on the subjects as the next fan. Teams change coaches-- sometimes for the better, sometimes not-- and the world keeps spinning. We don't have to have an experienced HC to find success. Furthermore, you can't say with certainty that Beckner, Pope, or possibly others on that list don't have the capability and qualities to be a successful HC, so save the attempt to belittle those with thoughts that seem to offend your loyalties to Rahe and Co.
oldrunner said:
I'm sorry but we are the very definition of mediocrity. Idaho State and NAU just suck, that's not mediocre, or middling, that's bad. There's just a lot of fans done with not being good or bad, we want more and know we can. Rahe hasn't changed in 12 years and was exposed by AJ 9 years ago, unless somehow he becomes less stubborn we're stuck not being bad but not really being good either
pccatfan said:
Exactly. Many of us have said this for a while now. With Rahe, we cant get better, but with someone else, we could definitely do worse, but also could do much, much better. Rahe's coaching style is basically set up to win by a few more possessions is all. His schemes are predictable, and he limits his players in their capabilities.
Born2BleedPurpleGuy
Active member
Take moment & read through some of these quotes from accomplished people. I may not agree with all but they do allow me to consider other viewpoints and give me an opportunity to use my grey matter. Are we actually SWS or have we really fallen into the mediocrity..."just enough" whirlpool? Maybe I'm stuck in the 80s when the DEC was near capacity all season. What an era that was. All I am saying is that when we are staying the same every season, we are not improving. Maybe we're just another great tandem player away from playing next to Harding....or a legit rebounder to push us into the next level. I dont know. Worth reading and pondering though.
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Wildcat_Fan
Active member
If we keep Rahe the heat has to be put on to get a better schedule and win quality games. I heard rumors that sponsors were grumbling from the lack of attendance early in the year. I would argue that it was down all year minus the last two weeks.
If they think this year was bad, wait until next year if another garbage schedule comes out, followed by mediocre coaching & basketball. Jerry wont put the heat on, the boosters & sponsors will.
If they think this year was bad, wait until next year if another garbage schedule comes out, followed by mediocre coaching & basketball. Jerry wont put the heat on, the boosters & sponsors will.
WSUfan said:
The basketball schedule sure hasn't helped, but Cup Cake Man sure hasn't helped either. Athletic marketing is a sham and embarrassing. Cup Cake didn't get the sponsors, but he sure is doing a great job of driving them away.
