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SiouxFan Realignment Nonesense

Siouxfan said:
Green Cookie Monster said:
As SDH pointed out, the classifications as we know them will cease to exist.
I dont see how Poly could pull it off attendance wise, not just the reporting, but the $$$ the patrons actually bring in through gate receipts. The program would be on welfare from day one. Losing breeds apathy, after a decade of 3-8 seasons the program is dropped for soccer. The new national sport of the University of Mexico-SLO campus.

Slim chance Sac and davis could pull it off given the apathetic populace, but are in a large metro area, so that is understandable. But look at UOP and SJSU for the future.....history repeats itself. And Sac/davis dont have the interest and Poly does not have the people.

Once clear heads prevail, they will cobble this together:
Sac State, UCFE, POLY, SJSU, Hawaii, NAU, PSU

Time to take another hit.......
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The Green Cookie Monster crumbles when presented with facts.

Cal Poly announced last year a stadium expansion which will take it above 15k, the magic number for FBS.

http://mustangnews.net/uu-expansion-off-campus-housing-among-changes-announced-in-2035-campus-master-plan/

The slim chances is remiscent of the UC Davis board when they said Sac St is broke, no wa that they could go FBS.

You guys deserve each other!
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2035?! Kalifornia will be a ward of Mexico by then.

4,000 seats, that is what Idaho has and look at their position.

This was written by student newspaper, so check source.

So what, Sac State Master Plan calls for a 40,000 seat stadium in the next 10-15 years.

Will that happen? Hahahaha

Maybe in 50yrs. when we are dirt they may be what is considered FBS.

What facts? This is all speculation, nothing more.

UNC is about to drastically cut athletics, this may result in elimination of sports, conference and division level. That ought to keep you busy for awhile.
Fact: https://collegead.com/university-of-northern-colorado-10/
 
Ok I am tired of Sioux Fan aka the Fighting Chicken Hawks (hat tip Foghorn Leghorn) getting all the good conspiracy hyperbole so I want to get one of my own. There are exactly 22 D 2 teams throughout the country that have a stadium with 10k or more seats.

Simultaneously all 22 schools expand their stadium to at least 15k to meet the required minimum. Since some of the schools are in the East they force a name change to Western Eastern Athletic Conference (WEAC). Not to be outdone and to have the only part of NCAA football in Canada, They grandfather Simon Fraser University into the new conference but Canada demands a name change so the conference one again pivots and becomes WEAC CAN.

Well, what do you think, far fetched enough?
 
HornetHope said:
Ok I am tired of Sioux Fan aka the Fighting Chicken Hawks (hat tip Foghorn Leghorn) getting all the good conspiracy hyperbole so I want to get one of my own. There are exactly 22 D 2 teams throughout the country that have a stadium with 10k or more seats.

Simultaneously all 22 schools expand their stadium to at least 15k to meet the required minimum. Since some of the schools are in the East they force a name change to Western Eastern Athletic Conference (WEAC). Not to be outdone and to have the only part of NCAA football in Canada, They grandfather Simon Fraser University into the new conference but Canada demands a name change so the conference one again pivots and becomes WEAC CAN.

Well, what do you think, far fetched enough?
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:rimshot: :lol:
 
SDHornet said:
Meanwhile UConn posts a $40M deficit while trying to keep up with the P4.

https://www.apnews.com/6d704448c5814814bb325338427ea71b

Good job SF, you're advocating to join an FBS with a broken economic model. Until that gets addressed, there just isn't much appeal to being FBS.
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That’s so hilarious. UConn spends like a drunken sailor as it thinks it is a P5 but doesn’t get near the revenue. They were runner up after Louisville for the ACC spot but never trimmed down afterward when they lost the beauty pageant. They added hockey but now can’t build an arena in Storrs so they have to be in the old Hartford Civic Center where the Whalers used to play. The stadium was supposed to hold the Patriots too, but they lost on that too.

Talking SJSU or even Fresno St at the best but you posters don’t even want to try.

The MLS might have resumed interest in SAC, and maybe Sac St could play in that new stadium. It would be ideal for Slack St.

https://ussoccerplayers.com/2019/01/sacramento-upgrades-its-mls-expansion-bid.html
 
SDHornet said:
I thought we already established that SJSU isn't a beacon of FBS excellence.
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Sac St has already established itself as the slackeriest program in DI. SJSU would be a massive upgrade to shoot for.
 
Slackeriest? We’ve got 82 conference championships since going D1 in 1991. Feel free to educate yourself on the matter.


BTW, how is life in the slummit going for you guys? Hey maybe the slummit will go FBS, go troll their board with this nonsense.
 
Two sniveling Montana coaches think so.
https://www.frontiersman.com/national/sports/number-of-teams-leaves-big-sky-with-uncertain-future/article_5e40d053-e69f-5ec4-b020-2d86e2db5f63.html
 
To some degree, I agree.

Any league is too big if it's bigger than 8 or 9 teams. That allows for two or three OOC games, and everyone plays everyone, so there's no goofiness in the standings. Heck, as crazy as it sounds, I'd like to split the NFL into four leagues and play an 11- or 12-game season followed by joint playoffs....
 
A Big Sky split is imminent, that is why it was brought up.

Sac St, Davis, and Poly to the WAC, as well as four Southland teams.

Idaho, EWU, Weber and the Montana's to the Summit.

Dixie St to the rump BSC and they will invite CWU.
 
I actually agree with the coaches and players that were quoted later in the article. I think the league is pretty good as it is.

Creating two divisions would have serious drawbacks. They can’t have a conference championship game because of when the playoffs start. They can’t squeeze that game in. So that’d essentially make it two separate conferences, so what’s the point?

Plus they mentioned the possibility of going 9 years without playing a particular team. Nobody wants that.

The way they have it setup now makes scheduling more fresh and interesting. Sure, your team doesn’t get to play every conference team each season, but they still have to win the games laid out in front of them. And the Big Sky is a very good conference to the point that there’s a lot of parity.

There’s probably no perfect solution. With that in mind, I think the current setup is pretty good.

I’d like the division split better if they could manage to play a conference championship game. But if that’s not a possibility, then I prefer how it is better.
 
Siouxfan said:
A Big Sky split is imminent, that is why it was brought up.

Sac St, Davis, and Poly to the WAC, as well as four Southland teams.

Idaho, EWU, Weber and the Montana's to the Summit.

Dixie St to the rump BSC and they will invite CWU.
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I don’t see why you believe it’s imminent. The commissioner was even quoted saying that he likes things as they are.

I think it’s more likely to see the number of teams fluctuate between 12 -14, but I don’t see any factors right now to lead anyone to believe the set up is going to change any time soon.
 
From what I recall, the Big Sky expanded in 2012 with four schools: North Dakota, Southern Utah plus UCD and Cal Poly as football members only-- out of fear of losing teams during the conference expansion/realignment craze. With the threats subsided, schools like Montana, MSU and the other original 1963ers (Weber, Idaho, Idaho State) would have no qualms seeing a purge of schools rather than addition of another school like Dixie State. There are no major tv contracts to be had or at risk, nor revenue lost, but everything to gain from a more geographic centric conference that simplifies scheduling, allows schools to play each other every year, and reduces travel.

I like the current set-up and wouldn't want to be in any other FCS conference, but I can see continue whining by the Montana schools to shed members.
 
The schools leaving will all be FBS by 2025. That year is when the new CFP payout contract begins and it will probably much larger then.

The Bozeman paper also had an article on who is spending big amounts on facilities, and those schools are moving to FBS. The small spenders will stay FCS, except Sac St. The schools that are going FBS tend to want coaches now that are winning. Hence, Sac St fired its last couple of coaches instead of being patient.

Sac St is probably very fortunate that it already has an FBS compliant stadium, as the mbb side doesn’t get improvement. But it has to stay with UC Davis in classification. California schools need to go FBS just to get on the map athletically.

UC Davis if it is FBS could bet an invite from the MWC because it is AAU academically. That would be several years down the road but they are planning a stadium expansion as is Cal Poly. When the WAC FBS collapsed, the economy was dreadful, so Cali schools couldn’t more up then, which made the WAC miss the CFP because of lack of numbers.

Going FBS as a conference is so much easier because one doesn’t have to buy home games costing millions Liberty went FBS as an independent but they have major bucks backing them, but Liberty showed that they could successfully challenge FBS movement rules.
 
See a WAC of two divisions:

Pacific.
UC Davis - Sac St
Cal Poly - Cal Baptist (non fb)
NMSU - GCU (non fb)

Plains
UTRGV - UIW
McNeese St - Lamar - Sam Houston St
ORU - UMKC (both non fb)
Mo St - Wichita St (both fb associates)

Some current WAC schools will get invites from the rump BSC IMHO: UVU, Seattle and Dixie St, and the BSC will no longer require football. CWU and Metro St of Denver will also get invites from the BSC, helping with travel.
 
Siouxfan said:
See a WAC of two divisions:

Pacific.
UC Davis - Sac St
Cal Poly - Cal Baptist (non fb)
NMSU - GCU (non fb)

Plains
UTRGV - UIW
McNeese St - Lamar - Sam Houston St
ORU - UMKC (both non fb)
Mo St - Wichita St (both fb associates)

Some current WAC schools will get invites from the rump BSC IMHO: UVU, Seattle and Dixie St, and the BSC will no longer require football. CWU and Metro St of Denver will also get invites from the BSC, helping with travel.
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Nate, just cause your angry bout not starting on this team does not mean you come on here and try to spoil our fun.
 
HornetHope said:
Siouxfan said:
See a WAC of two divisions:

Pacific.
UC Davis - Sac St
Cal Poly - Cal Baptist (non fb)
NMSU - GCU (non fb)

Plains
UTRGV - UIW
McNeese St - Lamar - Sam Houston St
ORU - UMKC (both non fb)
Mo St - Wichita St (both fb associates)

Some current WAC schools will get invites from the rump BSC IMHO: UVU, Seattle and Dixie St, and the BSC will no longer require football. CWU and Metro St of Denver will also get invites from the BSC, helping with travel.
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Nate, just cause your angry bout not starting on this team does not mean you come on here and try to spoil our fun.
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Who says I am angry?

The Cali FCS teams were all meant to be FBS. That's why the Big West got replacements early for Poly and Davis, as the BW was told they would leave.

Dixie St will step into the BSC so it doesn't lose its autobid.

Every move was planned out years ago.
 
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