Stadium News

[Pounder]

Need Viking Logo up in place as the Timbers' logo is featured here on the right:

Got money? That's what it will take to accomplish it.

Of course, the way Portland works, even the Timbers signage exposed to the outside might get a bit more muted than what you see in the renderings. Besides, as someone I follow on Twitter knows about Portland's Design Review commission, they'll eventually weigh in with something costly. Probably something about roof consistency, mind you.

 

[BroadwayVik]

I wouldn't doubt there being corruption in the midst of this dealing. Unfortunately, they say a little corruption is good for business. My guess is that it takes place in all construction deals as alluded to in the movie Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield.

And a little monkey-business too, right, Dean Martin?

But business ethics is not a complete oxymoron. We don't applaud it, but it seems we're not able to affect the outcome much. All we can do is be aware of it and keep an eye on things to see if conditions remain within or go beyond certain "reasonable limits."

 

[Alan1]

Canzano states on Oregon Live: "Portland State has won three straight games and is home this weekend against Idaho State. Home... meaning at Hillsboro Stadium at 7 p.m. I talked with coach Bruce Barnum this week, who said, 'I probably shouldn't say this, but I need a home stadium.'

PSU is working on trying to get him one. The most likely two options are: A) turning the practice field into a small, on-campus stadium; or B) partnering with Lincoln High on an 8,000-seat stadium."

Anyone heard anything on this? Could be just dreaming on Canzano's part.

 

[GreenGiant]

I have mentioned Lincoln High before. Would be a perfect fit and PPS would also benefit.

 

[bigskyconf]

Canzano states on Oregon Live: "Portland State has won three straight games and is home this weekend against Idaho State. Home... meaning at Hillsboro Stadium at 7 p.m. I talked with coach Bruce Barnum this week, who said, 'I probably shouldn't say this, but I need a home stadium.'

PSU is working on trying to get him one. The most likely two options are: A) turning the practice field into a small, on-campus stadium; or B) partnering with Lincoln High on an 8,000-seat stadium."

Anyone heard anything on this? Could be just dreaming on Canzano's part.

Here's the link for the full interview with Barnum on Canzano's show.

https://soundcloud.com/kxtg-the-bald-faced-truth/bft-interview-bruce-barnum-12

Canzano has been on this PSU stadium kick all season, which if the Portland media is talking about it, that has to be a good thing. The Pavilion started out as people talking about it. He kept pressuring Barnum about it and Barnum kept saying he "can't say anything yet", which makes me think something is in the works behind the scenes. Barnum says the other conference schools keeps bringing up our stadium "issue" to our recruits and that, best case, he would like to see an 8000-10000 seat complex on campus, but he "can't say anything yet".

Who know, the seeds could be sowed for the new on-campus, Pokey Allen Memorial Stadium. :thumb:

 

[ManOfVision]

I think we all agree that unfortunately, PP is not going to be a permanent long-term solution. At some point, it isn't worth fighting the city and the Timbers over it.

Partnering with Lincoln seems like a decent plan in terms of location and sharing of costs, although I honestly feel like 8k is too small. Isn't 15k a pretty reasonable capacity for a competitive FCS program?

A facility on campus would be ideal, but there's no way a decent sized stadium could be constructed at the practice field site! How big could you go there? 3k?!

Hillsboro is just too far away, in my opinion. For that to be worth it, we'd have to be able to expand it and add lots of PSU-specific elements in terms of branding so that it truly felt like home, and I'm just not sure that's going to happen.

By the way, I'm a huge Timbers fan with season tickets, and while I do want them to play on grass, the concern about sharing a grass field with PSU is way overstated. Most seasons as a FCS program, PSU plays five home games, maybe six if things work right or they host a playoff game. Some seasons, depending on whether the Timbers make the playoffs, they aren't even overlapping for the last half of PSU's season. So, most years, you're only concerned about maybe three days when PSU would eat up the grass, and even then the Timbers would likely have a full week before they played another game. Also, keep in mind that neither the Timbers nor PSU practice at PP, so that's not an issue, either. Basically, I think PSU is getting scapegoated a bit here. I love the Timbers and PSU, and think it is pretty crazy that they can't both be happy when they impact each other so little.

 

[VikNut]

Hillsboro will be a temporary interim facility, Lincoln HS in partnership with PPS is a non-starter and practice field is physically not possible. But an on-campus facility will be really exciting but a few years off. I think we will hear of this project long before Portland Diamond project makes any substantial announcement.

 

[martymoose]

A facility on campus would be ideal, but there's no way a decent sized stadium could be constructed at the practice field site! How big could you go there? 3k?!

Hey ManOfVision.

You should change your signature.

It says that we need a new basketball arena, which we got. Change that to a new football stadium and we should have one in ten years or so.

 

[Alan1]

What about Duniway Park? The city owes us something after turning Portland Civic stadium over Merritt Paulson.

 

[ManOfVision]

A facility on campus would be ideal, but there's no way a decent sized stadium could be constructed at the practice field site! How big could you go there? 3k?!

Hey ManOfVision.

You should change your signature.

It says that we need a new basketball arena, which we got. Change that to a new football stadium and we should have one in ten years or so.

True!

 

[Pounder]

What about Duniway Park? The city owes us something after turning Portland Civic stadium over Merritt Paulson.

Duniway just got renovated with help from Under Armour, who just moved into the old YMCA building next door. Nike raised a stink about that at the time; imagine what happens to that relationship if Duniway was a topic. Just the politics alone make that idea impossible, never mind either the parking or the parks constituency who rather radically fight those kinds of proposals (for instance, the Beavers at Lents Park proposal).

The old Stott Center side of the project is supposed to House other stuff, correct? Just trying to eliminate the notion of turning the Community Field 90 degrees and incorporating that project into this one.

All the out-of-box thinking (though done elsewhere) about a hybrid stadium/dorm facility or a stadium on top of a new or renovated parking structure... just assume that I repeated that all here. There are those elements (class space) in the Pavilion project, after all. But none of that sounds realistic. And I’m not completely sure that Barnum’s assertion of something in the works isn’t along the lines of, say, the Charlestown Chiefs having a Florida buyer. (Apologies for insertion of fiction)

 

[BSCfan]

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And I’m not completely sure that Barnum’s assertion of something in the works isn’t along the lines of, say, the Charlestown Chiefs having a Florida buyer. (Apologies for insertion of fiction)
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Good job capturing "the spirit of the thing"! :thumb:

 

[Alan1]

Per Ken Goe on OregonLive:

Cleary says the Vikings are working on both a short-term plan and a long-term plan for a suitable home venue.

The short-term plan almost certainly means going to Hillsboro. Long term, the Vikings would love to something nearer the center of the city - say, at Lincoln High School - where, they would have more of a say in the way the stadium is used.

Cleary says the ideal arrangement would be some sort of partnership between PSU, the city and the Portland Public Schools for something at Lincoln.

"We need to work out the logistics," she says.

Winning would make everything easier. While Cleary says she saw the football team progress in 2018, she needs to see the progression continue 2019.

"We're going to do whatever it takes to make it work," she says.

https://www.oregonlive.com/vikings/index.ssf/2018/11/portland_state_coach_bruce_bar.html

 

[DavidKeys]

REGARDING SIMON FRASER'S STADIUM:

"Swangard Stadium is a great venue for our student athletes to compete in and for our fans to enjoy great football in," says Milton Richards, senior director of Athletics and Recreation.

"It's another example of how we at Simon Fraser University are serious about engaging our community. We hope we can spend the next several years at Swangard while the Build SFU project is completed."

Build SFU is developing SFU’s new student union building and stadium project.

Swangard, located in the northwest corner of Burnaby's Central Park, is easily accessible by car or SkyTrain.

The stadium has a capacity of 4,200 spectators and in addition to many years of hosting Clan football, it has also hosted Clan soccer, the Vancouver Whitecaps and many regional, provincial, national and international soccer, rugby and track and field events.

SOUNDS A LOT LIKE HILLSBORO TO ME.

 

[Alan1]

REGARDING SIMON FRASER'S STADIUM:

"Swangard Stadium is a great venue for our student athletes to compete in and for our fans to enjoy great football in," says Milton Richards, senior director of Athletics and Recreation.

"It's another example of how we at Simon Fraser University are serious about engaging our community. We hope we can spend the next several years at Swangard while the Build SFU project is completed."

Build SFU is developing SFU’s new student union building and stadium project.

Swangard, located in the northwest corner of Burnaby's Central Park, is easily accessible by car or SkyTrain.

The stadium has a capacity of 4,200 spectators and in addition to many years of hosting Clan football, it has also hosted Clan soccer, the Vancouver Whitecaps and many regional, provincial, national and international soccer, rugby and track and field events.

SOUNDS A LOT LIKE HILLSBORO TO ME.

"Swangard Stadium is a multi-purpose stadium in Central Park in Burnaby, British Columbia. Primarily used for soccer, rugby, football, and athletics, the stadium also used to be home to the Simon Fraser Clan football team...."

http://americanfootball.wikia.com/wiki/Swangard_Stadium

 

[Pounder]

First off... "several years" at Swangard? Mind you, Swangard is simply the other side of Burnaby from the campus, really right on the border with Vancouver. My issue is Terry Fox practically has no stands to replace... is there really any money behind this? You could do that thing in stages and have something playable freaking next year, so why aren't they doing that? Something smells fishy there, or there's just no real commitment. I don't get them.

The problem at Lincoln is that there's so many of their teams that need practice time (and so many non-school teams that use the current Lincoln field) that Portland State may have to offer time (time they probably don't have) at the community field. Or get another field somehow. Or given the scope of the project at Lincoln... a separate practice space there? A proposed seven-story campus suggests a smaller building footprint and therefore the possibility of doing that, but is there really that much space? I don't think there's a final design plan yet (certainly not one posted online), which just adds to the frustration.

 

[bigskyconf]

The problem at Lincoln is that there's so many of their teams that need practice time (and so many non-school teams that use the current Lincoln field) that Portland State may have to offer time (time they probably don't have) at the community field. Or get another field somehow. Or given the scope of the project at Lincoln... a separate practice space there? A proposed seven-story campus suggests a smaller building footprint and therefore the possibility of doing that, but is there really that much space? I don't think there's a final design plan yet (certainly not one posted online), which just adds to the frustration.

You know, given the situation forced on PSU by both the Timbers and the city, any talk on how to resolve the stadium issue should be a good thing for any PSU fan. The fact that there seems to be a bunch of the proper people talking about it is also good. It should give the Vik fans optimism (even guarded optimism) that somehow, this situation will be resolved properly. But you come in and shoot everything down without offering even a counter proposal to the situation facing Portland State (and freely flying your Timbers flag in my face). I wouldn't think you gain joy from coming in to a fan board just to incite vile and hatred, so I just wonder what your stance is? Do you have any type of proposal to help PSU through this, or are you just hell-bent on throwing it all in the garbage (so you can freely enjoy your "futbol" without any guilt)?

 

[Alan1]

It appears that Portland State will be playing their home games in Hillboro for the foreseeable future. Attendance which is now somewhere South of miserable will suffer even more. The University could do some things to mitigate our banishment to the 'burbs. They could take a page out of the Hops book and provide a free shuttle service from the Max station to the Stadium. They could flood Metro Area with free tickets to build an audience for Viking football. At least they could let anyone with a student ID in for free. What about bringing in high school bands to improve the experience? How about improving the food available. Food carts anyone? I am sure there are more ideas out there. Do you have any?

 

[bigskyconf]

It appears that Portland State will be playing their home games in Hillboro for the foreseeable future. Attendance which is now somewhere South of miserable will suffer even more. The University could do some things to mitigate our banishment to the 'burbs. They could take a page out of the Hops book and provide a free shuttle service from the Max station to the Stadium. They could flood Metro Area with free tickets to build an audience for Viking football. At least they could let anyone with a student ID in for free. What about bringing in high school bands to improve the experience? How about improving the food available. Food carts anyone? I am sure there are more ideas out there. Do you have any?

They did have the Beaverton High School band at the Montana State game. Played most of the game and had a nice halftime show. They had Tualatin at the Northern Colorado game. I was surprised that they had over 100 kids out on the field for halftime.

I'm thinking that, being that they have this much time, they will set a bunch of stuff up to make it easier. If you remember, even at spring game we thought we were playing all the games at Providence Park.

 

[Pounder]

So as this was released and confirmed all games will be in Hillsboro this year...

https://goviks.com/news/2019/2/15/portland-state-announces-2019-football-schedule-will-play-home-games-at-hillsboro.aspx?path=football

...there is a quote of interest.

In addition, Portland State is partnering with the Portland Interscholastic League and Oregon Sports Authority on a feasibility study of building a football venue in downtown Portland.

Safe to say that there is a Lincoln HS discussion going on.