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SUU is looking to join the WAC

oldrunner

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They must be thinking that they can win the conference if they are the only one playing football. Maybe they can get a few of the lesser programs in the BSC to go with them. Dixie is a pssibility as well. Maybe the BSC can get back to a normal size and scheduling can be a little better.

What do you think of this?
 
oldrunner said:
They must be thinking that they can win the conference if they are the only one playing football. Maybe they can get a few of the lesser programs in the BSC to go with them. Dixie is a pssibility as well. Maybe the BSC can get back to a normal size and scheduling can be a little better.

What do you think of this?

Dixie is already in the WAC
 
WSUWildcat said:
oldrunner said:
They must be thinking that they can win the conference if they are the only one playing football. Maybe they can get a few of the lesser programs in the BSC to go with them. Dixie is a pssibility as well. Maybe the BSC can get back to a normal size and scheduling can be a little better.

What do you think of this?

Dixie is already in the WAC
Oh yeah, I was just thinking football. NMSU is also in the WAC and plays FBS football. I wonder if they will be dropping to FCS? I also wonder if any other WAC schools are planning for FCS football, or if the WAC will try to go after other schools to get to the magic number to gain an automatic qualifier for the playoffs? If NMSU drops to FCS the WAC will need at least 3 more football teams to do that. The WAC will end up even more spread out than the BSC. Other than a good rivalry with Dixie, I wonder what has been promised to SUU to make this move? Are SD, Davis, and Polly the next additions?
 
From a football stand point, it's a big risk to take as SUU would only be the WAC's third FCS football playing member. Unless the WAC has something else up their sleeves to add several more football members these teams will have to play as independents. Maybe SUU is hoping they can stay as a football playing member only, like Poly and Davis, but I really don't think the conference would go for that. And I certainly hope they wouldn't go for that. But if this all starts the process of shrinking the Big Sky and adding another western FCS conference i think those are good things. I'd love to see UNC join them. Both schools add very little to the conference.
 
oldrunner said:
WSUWildcat said:
oldrunner said:
They must be thinking that they can win the conference if they are the only one playing football. Maybe they can get a few of the lesser programs in the BSC to go with them. Dixie is a pssibility as well. Maybe the BSC can get back to a normal size and scheduling can be a little better.

What do you think of this?

Dixie is already in the WAC
Oh yeah, I was just thinking football. NMSU is also in the WAC and plays FBS football. I wonder if they will be dropping to FCS? I also wonder if any other WAC schools are planning for FCS football, or if the WAC will try to go after other schools to get to the magic number to gain an automatic qualifier for the playoffs? If NMSU drops to FCS the WAC will need at least 3 more football teams to do that. The WAC will end up even more spread out than the BSC. Other than a good rivalry with Dixie, I wonder what has been promised to SUU to make this move? Are SD, Davis, and Polly the next additions?

NMSU has been pretty adament that they won't drop to FCS.
 
SWeberCat02 said:
oldrunner said:
WSUWildcat said:
oldrunner said:
They must be thinking that they can win the conference if they are the only one playing football. Maybe they can get a few of the lesser programs in the BSC to go with them. Dixie is a pssibility as well. Maybe the BSC can get back to a normal size and scheduling can be a little better.

What do you think of this?

Dixie is already in the WAC
Oh yeah, I was just thinking football. NMSU is also in the WAC and plays FBS football. I wonder if they will be dropping to FCS? I also wonder if any other WAC schools are planning for FCS football, or if the WAC will try to go after other schools to get to the magic number to gain an automatic qualifier for the playoffs? If NMSU drops to FCS the WAC will need at least 3 more football teams to do that. The WAC will end up even more spread out than the BSC. Other than a good rivalry with Dixie, I wonder what has been promised to SUU to make this move? Are SD, Davis, and Polly the next additions?

NMSU has been pretty adament that they won't drop to FCS.
NMSU's problems are a lot like UI's were. Nobody wants to travel there and it's not a big market. I'm sure that they are hemoraging money, just like UI was. I don't know what they might do, but they don't have a lot of options. The WAC is trying hard to stay relevant and provide something for it's football playing schools.
 
https://www.thespectrum.com/story/sports/college/2020/10/02/suu-has-not-received-official-offer-join-wac/3595209001/

If the WAC were to create a new football league, however, it would meet at least one of the criteria cited by SUU leadership as a requisite for changing conferences.

"Any new conference would also need to sponsor all sports we currently field in the Big Sky Conference, including Division I football," Wyatt said in a statement.

SUU doesn't deny being in talks with the WAC. And this would suggest the WAC is trying to get enough football playing schools to join to form a football conference. They currently have 2 FCS and I believe the minimum needed is 6.
 
SWeberCat02 said:
https://www.thespectrum.com/story/sports/college/2020/10/02/suu-has-not-received-official-offer-join-wac/3595209001/

If the WAC were to create a new football league, however, it would meet at least one of the criteria cited by SUU leadership as a requisite for changing conferences.

"Any new conference would also need to sponsor all sports we currently field in the Big Sky Conference, including Division I football," Wyatt said in a statement.

SUU doesn't deny being in talks with the WAC. And this would suggest the WAC is trying to get enough football playing schools to join to form a football conference. They currently have 2 FCS and I believe the minimum needed is 6.
The only advantages I see for SUU are to have a close rivalry with Dixie and to join up with smaller schools with budgets similar to their own. It also looks like the WAC will be targetting additional schools from the Southland Conf. I don't see how SUU would be saving anything on travel. Like the BSC, over half of the WAC will require a plane, a train, a bus, and a mule ride to get to their place. Once there SUU will be cooking over a camp fire. :coffee:
 
SWeberCat02 said:
Chex said:
I don’t get the move making sense for SUU. I am sure they will regret it later

This is all about saving money.

That will be a bummer for their fans. I think they had good rivals with Weber State and NAU. They have shown they have competed in the Big Sky, too. Oh well.
 
I don't see how the WAC is an improvement for SUU. Does it really save money? I think they know they can't compete in the Sky and want something easier. Oh well. I wish them luck. It helps get the Sky back to a normal size, but a total bummer losing a rival. We'd get stuck with NAU. I do not and will never see them as a rival. I love playing them and we have had some nice battles over the years but rivals??? No. Maybe instead of SUU, WAC please take Northern Colorado?

Regardless, I think we are about to see a lot of school movements between conferences in the next few months. Most in an effort to save money, especially Mid-major and Low-major DI schools. A lot of conferences are trying to change to stay stable. The WAC is one of the most unstable conferences and I don't see them as a safe bet. It might be the conference that could change the most in the next year.

Lets say that Matt Brown is right, and that SUU, SFA, Sam Houston, Lamar and Abilene Christian plan on joining the WAC with Dixie and Tarleton State. That is a pretty decent conference. However, suddenly BYU and Gonzaga leave the WCC and go to the MW (Gonzaga is the only way BYU is getting back in). Now the WCC needs to add two schools. Seattle and Grand Canyon (both religious schools) would fit the WCC demographic perfectly and help keep the WCC as strong as possible. My money is on both going to the WCC. Losing Gonzaga and BYU will be a hard pill to swallow though. No way the WCC will be able to continue pulling the crap they have been the last few years. Their poop will not smell better than other conferences. So the garbage of 2 for 1s that they have been pulling will end.

Next, we all know that the Summit league is looking for one more team to pad a potential loss. UVU would be a great addition and has been in contact. They play soccer, have strong basketball, and are close to a major airport.

Big West could add Bakersfield and Chicago State is barely DI; really they should drop down to DII. That leaves the last school who wants out now, NMSU (we all know that they want to leave and are whoring themselves out to whomever is interested). This would leave the WAC with UT Rio Grand, Dixie, and California Baptist (could they also go to the WCC??) and Tarleton State. The WAC is not a stable conference.

Finally, why would two of the top programs in the Southland (Lamar and Abilene are not necessarily at the top like SFA and Sam Houston, but what do I know) want to leave? Personally, this might be nothing more than a ploy to get more of the financial cut, or maybe get a couple of schools to leave. A feint by SFA and Sam Houston to convince a couple of schools to leave the conference, and get it back to a normal size. Who knows....

BUT on the flip side, it would be nice actually having another FCS conference in the Western United States, and if any of the eventualities occurred as mentioned above, the WAC still has a healthy number of schools and 6 FCS paying schools. Maybe just maybe UNCO is going to leave too!!
 
https://www.ksl.com/article/50063697/southern-utah-seriously-considering-invitation-to-join-the-wac-but-other-schools-also-targeted-for-football-revival

According to several sources with knowledge of the situation, conference members both current and future have engaged with the Wildcats about joining SUU in the Western Athletic Conference and leaving the Big Sky behind. Nothing has been formalized, and a decision on such a move is not imminent, according to a source.
 

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