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The future of the WAC

weberwildcat

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The future of the WAC: Analysis of Karl Benson's comments on expansion and BSU


The future of the WAC: Analysis of Karl Benson's comments on expansion and BSU
by Kevan Lee on Feb 26, 2010 8:10 AM PST in Boise State football 22 comments


WAC commissioner Karl Benson shared with Graham Watson his thoughts on his beloved conference in an interview that was at times revealing, abrupt, and guarded. He's like the Gary Bettman of NCAA conference commissioners.

Where is the WAC headed? Is expansion an option? How does Boise State fit into the conference's future plans? Join me after the jump for a spin around Karl Benson's comments share your thoughts about the WAC's future.


An interview with Karl Benson

Many thanks to ESPN's Graham Watson for her interview with Benson and to reader givemesomemoore for posting the piece to the FanShots. Let's break down Benson's comments. Shall we?

The question: Have you guys looked at expanding your conference at all?

The answer: "... if I had my druthers, I would rather work with a 10-team league than a nine-team league."

The analysis: Someone give Karl Benson his druthers!

The WAC is a 9-team league as it stands today - or an 8.5-team league depending on how you classify San Jose State. If Benson were to get his wish, we would be talking about WAC expansion. So let's humor him.

Where might the WAC look? In the past, rumors have swirled about the possible additions of Big Sky schools from Division I-AA, rumors that Benson did not dispel when he referenced the Big Sky-to-WAC pipeline in his Graham Watson interview. If you look to the Big Sky, you need look no further than Montana. And if Montana is not your cup of tea, then maybe Montana State, Idaho State, Portland State, or Central Washington. Anyone I'm forgetting?

However, as simple as adding a Big Sky/FCS team might be, there is that pesky problem with the NCAA placing a moratorium on teams changing classifications through August 2011. So what current Division I-A schools might Karl Benson have eyes for? Here's a list:

North Texas (Sun Belt)
Louisiana-Lafayette (Sun Belt)
Louisiana Monroe (Sun Belt)
Pretty much any Mountain West school he can get
One of the C-USA teams that left the WAC (Tulsa, UTEP, Rice, SMU)
Assuming the Broncos stay in the WAC and the conference expands by one, which school would you like to see join the WAC?


The question: How do you prepare for (the possibility of Boise State leaving the WAC) and do you have to have pieces in place that can move if Boise State decides to leave?

The answer: "... history has always shown that there’s upward mobility in the West. Whether it was the Big West schools joining the WAC or the Big Sky schools joining the Big West that ultimately joined the WAC. All you have to do is look at the current WAC membership and see where they’ve been. History shows that there’s movement in the West."

The analysis: Benson seems to really like the idea of a Big Sky school joining the WAC. If college football conferences still exist in 2 years in any way similar to how they exist now, I would not be surprised at all if the WAC goes after Montana.

The question: Do you think if the Mountain West loses teams that your teams then become the natural next choices for the Mountain West?

The answer: "Or do the Mountain West teams become the next choices for the WAC?"

The analysis: Graham Watson got served.



The question: How much have you been in contact with Boise State in terms of (their future plans)?

The answer: "... I would hope that if and when an invitation (to Boise State) comes that there would be an evaluation made that’s in the best interest of the university, and there would be recognition that the WAC has provided Boise State very well."

The analysis: Benson obviously feels like he has treated the Broncos very well during their WAC tenure. And in a lot of ways, he's right. The WAC has one of the best non-BCS television contracts, it has gone to bat for the Broncos to set up desirable bowl scenarios, and hires PR firms to help make the conference look better. What more could Benson do?

Boise State is certain to consider all of these factors in any decision to relocate. But in many ways, going from the WAC to another conference is not so much a matter of picking favorites as it is simply growing up. The Broncos have outgrown the WAC. And no amount of Friday night ESPN primetime games can change that.

The question: What is the next step for this conference to make it more attractive and give it that leg up?

The answer: "... I think the bottom line is that we need more top 50 teams from top to bottom and we need to eliminate the teams that are in the 90 to 120 range ..."

The analysis: Without a doubt, this is the biggest problem plaguing the WAC as a football conference. Benson makes a good point later on in his answer that the MWC has risen to prominence because it has fielded three Top 25 teams in the past two seasons. The WAC has Boise State and then nobody.

When Benson says "more top 50 teams," he might as well be saying "the Broncos and really anyone else at all, I'm not picky." The WAC is as top-heavy as top-heavy can be. For example:

Sagarin ratings

5. Boise State
59. Fresno State
70. Nevada
85. Idaho
89. Louisiana Tech
100. Utah State
105. Hawaii
138. San Jose State
153. New Mexico State

Oddly enough, Montana comes in at No. 57.

Sadly enough, the WAC has more teams at 120-and-up than it does in the top 50.

Your turn

Should the WAC expand to 10 teams? What school would you like to see join the conference? Is competitiveness the WAC's biggest need? Share your thoughts in the comments.
 
SAGARIN RATINGS 2009 FOOTBALL


14 BIG SKY (AA)= 54.64 54.56 ( 14) TEAMS= 9 54.48 ( 14)


57 Montana AA = 71.73 14 1 55.78( 143) 0 0 | 0 1 | 74.01 51 | 69.23 69
110 Eastern Washington AA = 61.32 8 4 56.84( 135) 0 0 | 0 0 | 62.43 103 | 59.76 114
111 Weber State AA = 60.89 7 5 57.35( 134) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.96 105 | 59.36 117
120 Montana State AA = 57.88 7 4 55.46( 144) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.03 112 | 55.25 133
124 Northern Arizona AA = 57.34 5 6 58.40( 129) 0 0 | 0 1 | 57.51 122 | 56.68 125
159 Sacramento State AA = 51.23 5 6 55.89( 142) 0 0 | 0 0 | 55.88 133 | 45.47 180
177 Northern Colorado AA = 45.94 3 8 54.35( 152) 0 0 | 0 0 | 46.83 173 | 44.50 185
191 Portland State AA = 43.16 2 9 56.76( 137) 0 0 | 0 0 | 44.89 181 | 40.74 198
198 Idaho State AA = 41.55 1 10 60.83( 120) 0 0 | 0 1 | 44.85 182 | 36.88 21
 
SAGARIN RATINGS 2008 FOOTBALL

10 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 63.91 64.18 ( 9) TEAMS= 9

12 Boise State A = 85.13 12 1 64.86( 94) 0 1 | 1 1 | 83.76 15 | 86.13 13
71 Nevada A = 69.74 7 6 66.60( 86) 0 1 | 0 3 | 69.53 69 | 69.49 70
86 Fresno State A = 65.70 7 6 65.93( 90) 0 0 | 0 1 | 68.01 80 | 63.10 94
87 Louisiana Tech A = 65.44 8 5 63.13( 112) 0 0 | 0 1 | 68.84 71 | 61.91 100
91 Hawaii A = 65.04 7 7 68.86( 76) 0 1 | 0 3 | 68.19 79 | 61.69 101
105 San Jose State A = 62.51 6 6 64.49( 98) 0 0 | 0 2 | 65.90 92 | 58.86 119
115 Utah State A = 60.40 3 9 69.80( 68) 0 1 | 0 3 | 61.78 110 | 58.59 121
146 New Mexico State A = 54.13 3 9 63.14( 111) 0 0 | 0 2 | 58.02 127 | 49.56 163
162 Idaho A = 49.50 2 10 64.32( 99) 0 0 | 0 2 | 54.23 142 | 43.52 19



15 BIG SKY (AA)= 53.64 54.12 ( 15) TEAMS= 9

62 Montana AA = 71.52 14 2 55.94( 146) 0 0 | 0 0 | 72.90 56 | 69.80 69
85 Weber State AA = 66.28 10 4 60.25( 127) 0 1 | 0 1 | 67.08 84 | 65.06 87
121 Eastern Washington AA = 58.46 6 5 59.00( 132) 0 1 | 0 1 | 58.43 123 | 58.04 123
143 Montana State AA = 54.34 7 5 56.29( 144) 0 0 | 0 0 | 57.82 129 | 50.24 159
145 Northern Arizona AA = 54.14 6 5 55.69( 149) 0 0 | 0 0 | 54.99 141 | 52.82 148
158 Sacramento State AA = 51.00 6 6 55.87( 147) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.89 153 | 49.61 162
172 Portland State AA = 47.15 4 7 54.87( 153) 0 0 | 0 0 | 48.40 164 | 45.36 186
194 Northern Colorado AA = 43.87 1 10 55.85( 148) 0 0 | 0 0 | 41.01 199 | 46.03 181
206 Idaho State AA = 40.35 1 11 57.93( 138) 0 0 | 0 1 | 40.77 201 | 39.45 210
 
No reason for UM or MSU to leave the Big Sky. Why would you? Worse travel, and telling your recruits that they can go the the Humanitarian Bowl instead of playing for a national championship. And your fans aren't connected with San Jose State.....they want Idaho State, Weber, and all the BSC charter members.
 

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