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Grading the Season

oldrunner

oldrunner

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Plus Side - The product on the floor was improved from the previous year. Maybe only slightly, but better.

Minus Side - Players seemed to have more potential than the outcomes would indicate. The team is still way too predictable on both sides of the ball. Still seem to lack defensive stoppers in the front court.

Grade - C Disappointing Season, even with lowered expectations from the previous season.
 
oldrunner said:
Plus Side - The product on the floor was improved from the previous year. Maybe only slightly, but better.

Minus Side - Players seemed to have more potential than the outcomes would indicate. The team is still way too predictable on both sides of the ball. Still seem to lack defensive stoppers in the front court.

Grade - C Disappointing Season, even with lowered expectations from the previous season.
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Agree with your post. Since we finished 6 out of 10 teams, I would put that at 60% and give it a D or D-. It’s better than last year, but wasn’t a big improvement that was promised after the money injection and making Lillard the GM.
 
D+/C-. This program is not getting better. Going from a D- to a D+ is improvement, but not what was expected with more funding. Lets be honest, in the Big Sky conference, we have some of the best facilities, history, fans, support and funding. So, who or what is the issue?!? Randy was always as good as his assistants. When he had really good assistants, that program was incredible. BUT, when he didn't, the program was workmanlike at best. Don't get me wrong Coach Rahe was an excellent coach. BUT, he wasn't Superman. He needed good help.

On the flip side, I feel there are a couple of pretty good assistant coaches on the bench. Because of them, the team is better than expected. I could be wrong. Please tell me if I am. Nevertheless, is four years enough time to get an idea of how good a coach is or will be?
 
I was glad to see they fought hard in the second half of the season and made some strides, but still underperforming for the talent we have, and I think that is the best way to sum up Rahe's last few years and all of Duft's head coaching career. This experiment has failed, I know we could get a better coach for the advantages and salary WSU offers. It's past time to move on.
 
I can certainly see the argument for D+ or C-.

I try to be as analytical as possible. It's not always easy. I ask myself if I feel that our failures are on the player's side or in coaching. I think it is a little of both. We have had excellent team members on both sides of that in the past. We are a bit spoiled in that regard. Making changes to the player side or the coaching side, may or may not give us the results we are after. So, when is it time to make a change? I really don't know. That is above my pay grade. Of course, everything is above my pay grade. ;-)
 
I actually agree with Olds assessment for the most part. Kudos to you for finally giving a just opinion of this program. I’ve been saying it years now, Duft is not a good coach. Players are recruited by this staff which means it is on the coaches for recruiting “bad” players. The players are the scapegoat every season and I think this team and more than enough good players to make up for bad coaching to an extent. Please let’s get a competent coach who can take us to the promised land
 
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I suppose that Weber admin is OK with a little below average. Duft brought in better players than his below average record shows. But coaching makes a difference. There is no way that Eastern Washington had better players than Weber State, but their coach was far superior to our coach. And that gave the impetus to beat a more talented team.
First, no coach can win big with average players for the level he is coaching. Any coach needs better players if he is to win big. But then, no team with better players can win if their coach is a putz! In brief, to win big there must be superior coaching and players. That's not rocket science, it's solid truth. Montana's basketball this year is suffering from a lack of talented players but their superior coach has got them winning games that they are not talented enough to win. So coaches do make a big difference.

But in Weber's case these facts are relevant because they are not willing to do what it takes to win big. They have allowed themselves to compromise and accept barely mediocre. Call it what you will, but these facts lay bare the source of the mediocrity that Weber is experiencing in their major sports.

I sincerely believe that things will not get better until a more qualified and motivated administration steps up to hire coaches who can coach and recruit. Duft was a Rahe hire. The wrong hire! Unfortunately, Rahe rewarded him for his years of commitment to the basketball program. Now we are living with it and it does not set well. But don't expect a mediocre administration to do things any differently than they have in the past. History is the best indicator of the future! So settle in and endure mediocrity. And some day someone will wake up and decide that they want more than mediocrity. Hopefully I will still be alive when that happens. lol. And if they move to fire him now maybe I will have to eat all of my words. That would be tasty!
 
Greatx3 said:
I hear former USU and Utes HC Craig Smith is available as well; hell his kid is on the damn team
baller said:
I suppose that Weber admin is OK with a little below average. Duft brought in better players than his below average record shows. But coaching makes a difference. There is no way that Eastern Washington had better players than Weber State, but their coach was far superior to our coach. And that gave the impetus to beat a more talented team.
First, no coach can win big with average players for the level he is coaching. Any coach needs better players if he is to win big. But then, no team with better players can win if their coach is a putz! In brief, to win big there must be superior coaching and players. That's not rocket science, it's solid truth. Montana's basketball this year is suffering from a lack of talented players but their superior coach has got them winning games that they are not talented enough to win. So coaches do make a big difference.

But in Weber's case these facts are relevant because they are not willing to do what it takes to win big. They have allowed themselves to compromise and accept barely mediocre. Call it what you will, but these facts lay bare the source of the mediocrity that Weber is experiencing in their major sports.

I sincerely believe that things will not get better until a more qualified and motivated administration steps up to hire coaches who can coach and recruit. Duft was a Rahe hire. The wrong hire! Unfortunately, Rahe rewarded him for his years of commitment to the basketball program. Now we are living with it and it does not set well. But don't expect a mediocre administration to do things any differently than they have in the past. History is the best indicator of the future! So settle in and endure mediocrity. And some day someone will wake up and decide that they want more than mediocrity. Hopefully I will still be alive when that happens. lol. And if they move to fire him now maybe I will have to eat all of my words. That would be tasty!
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Well stated Baller!!!
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