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The Major turning point

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WILDCAT

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Though we played like crap and didnt deserve to win this game, there was a time in the game where we actually had momentum only to have it taken away.


Weber had cut the lead to 5, Scotty B stole a ball and was driving to the hoop and got hammered on his way up (even the tv announcers said he got hammered) you guessed it no call, the Griz get the rebound and throw it ahead to Cherry who go's up and barely gets touched and gets the and one.

A 5 point lead that could have been a 3 point lead or less turns into an 8 point lead taking our momentum what little we had away.


Of course if your gonna shoot as poorly as we did and go scoreless for 7 minutes while allowing Montana to go on a 14-0 run you dont deserve to win. :thumbdown:



The good side, we get another chance to meet them again, and there is no way IN HELL that we shoot as poorly as we did last night again.


Bring on the Vikings
 
No way I'm blaming the Refs in this one. We had 4 total pts. From our bench.

Eerily similar game to the nightmare Semi-Final loss to Montana State in '09 @ home. I hate the saying live by the 3, die by the 3, but these #'s are crazy.
3pt. Shooting
4-26 MSU Semi's 08-09
5-17 UM Finals 09-10
4-20 UM Semi's 10-11
3-26 UM Reg Season Title game 11-12
 
Bluefin said:
No way I'm blaming the Refs in this one. We had 4 total pts. From our bench.

Eerily similar game to the nightmare Semi-Final loss to Montana State in '09 @ home. I hate the saying live by the 3, die by the 3, but these #'s are crazy.
3pt. Shooting
4-26 MSU Semi's 08-09
5-17 UM Finals 09-10
4-20 UM Semi's 10-11
3-26 UM Reg Season Title game 11-12
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Add this game (Weber's only bad loss of the year):
6-21 @ ISU 12

Weber is a great 3 point shooting team, but I think at times they rely to heavily on it. And when they aren't hitting them their inside game is not strong enough to carry them.
 
SWeberCat02 said:
Bluefin said:
No way I'm blaming the Refs in this one. We had 4 total pts. From our bench.

Eerily similar game to the nightmare Semi-Final loss to Montana State in '09 @ home. I hate the saying live by the 3, die by the 3, but these #'s are crazy.
3pt. Shooting
4-26 MSU Semi's 08-09
5-17 UM Finals 09-10
4-20 UM Semi's 10-11
3-26 UM Reg Season Title game 11-12
Click to expand...

Add this game (Weber's only bad loss of the year):
6-21 @ ISU 12

Weber is a great 3 point shooting team, but I think at times they rely to heavily on it. And when they aren't hitting them their inside game is not strong enough to carry them.
Click to expand...

I wouldn't say that the inside game isn't good enough, I think its more of a issue of the inside guys get ignored on offense. Hard to score if you don't get the ball to shoot.
 
Wildcat,

i think it was a 10 minute drought with no FG, not 7 min when griz went on that 16-1 run.



post game thoughts. im not sure what to say. i am still in shock and its not that i didnt think griz were good, just the way the game went. griz are played a great game, played good D but :doh:
 
There were a couple of no calls on Weber's side of the court that were followed with calls on the Montana's side. The really bad one was already referenced by Wildcat. Bam gets levelled and then Cherry gets an and 1, which wasn't a foul. How about the times where Bam and Lillard were tackled while shooting 3's? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I couldn't believe that the refs missed one, but both. LOOOOOOOOOOL...Anyway, what doomed the Cats was poor offensive execution. Oh well, to next week!!
 
talhadfoursteals said:
There were a couple of no calls on Weber's side of the court that were followed with calls on the Montana's side. The really bad one was already referenced by Wildcat. Bam gets levelled and then Cherry gets an and 1, which wasn't a foul. How about the times where Bam and Lillard were tackled while shooting 3's? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I couldn't believe that the refs missed one, but both. LOOOOOOOOOOL...Anyway, what doomed the Cats was poor offensive execution. Oh well, to next week!!
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It's the BSC. There were shitty calls both ways. The absolute worst call in the game was Otis taking the most ridiculous dive I've ever seen -- one he probably should have been T-d up for -- and getting the call. The 2nd worst call in the game was (I believe) Bamforth grabbing Steward around the neck and litterally dragging him 3/4 of the width of the floor to stop the clock and not being called for an intentional foul.

All of the other poor calls -- and there were plenty both ways -- were in the flow of the game. NONE of them were the turning point.
 
I must have missed the Otis dive. Bamforth's foul was fine, & a very headsy move to foul a bad free throw shooter away from the ball. He pulled him a few feet, if intentional he would have sent him to the floor. He held on to his neck to make sure he didn't fall, & just long until the official called it. Otis did get the benefit of 1 bs call at around the foul line, Ward or Hutch didn't touch him. The 2 against Lillard & Bamforth shooting 3's were painfully obvious.
 
The 2 against Lillard & Bamforth shooting 3's were painfully obvious.
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I didn't think either was a foul, so not painfully obvious to me. One of the problems is, both of those guys hit the floor everytime someone runs at them as they're shooting 3s. So, they're going to get some calls they don't deserve and vice versa. FWIW, I don't know how you missed the dive. Even the announcers were laughing about how he got away with that. B's foul was clearly intentional.

But hell, if we want to disect every play, I could easily point to 50 non-calls against the GRIZ. I'll say it again: No foul nor no non-call was a turning point -- or even a FACTOR -- in the game. The Griz were simply better, just like Weber was better in Ogden.
 
LarrytheFarmer said:
SWeberCat02 said:
Bluefin said:
No way I'm blaming the Refs in this one. We had 4 total pts. From our bench.

Eerily similar game to the nightmare Semi-Final loss to Montana State in '09 @ home. I hate the saying live by the 3, die by the 3, but these #'s are crazy.
3pt. Shooting
4-26 MSU Semi's 08-09
5-17 UM Finals 09-10
4-20 UM Semi's 10-11
3-26 UM Reg Season Title game 11-12
Click to expand...

Add this game (Weber's only bad loss of the year):
6-21 @ ISU 12

Weber is a great 3 point shooting team, but I think at times they rely to heavily on it. And when they aren't hitting them their inside game is not strong enough to carry them.
Click to expand...

I wouldn't say that the inside game isn't good enough, I think its more of a issue of the inside guys get ignored on offense. Hard to score if you don't get the ball to shoot.
Click to expand...

Even worse when the ball is passed to you and you fumble it out of bounds or into the hands of the opposition. Sheesh, how many times did that happen? More than I care to count for sure!
 
When Tres got foul #2 and went to the bench, Weber's offense went cold. Fulton could not buy a basket and the Montana defense clamped down on the long range shots.
 
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