stingthemgood
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Ya’ll are on some drugs
This is an awful take that lets weak/poor admin off the hook for not having the balls to keep football. Sac State, and all the other CA publics that still have football, faced the same issues from the CalNow fallout. It all boils down to having admin with the balls to do what it takes to keep football. Any CA public that had/has a field with 5k+ capacity was/is capable of sponsoring a football program. CalNow was just used as an out by weak/pathetic admin to cut football, I'll never believe otherwise on this topic.CalNow agreement made any chance for CSU’s to keep top level football very difficult. Applaud those that did, but LB never could get a stadium, and Fullerton cut FB as their stadium opened, which isn’t really FBS ready, but is a good starting point. UCSB also had an acceptable stadium at the time, but again cut football in early 70’s, and then played in lower divisions during a brief revival as non scholarship.
In new NIL and revenue world, all Big West schools are effectively lower divisions. Most can’t afford the new scholarship limits.
CalNow affected CSU’s, not the UC’s, so not all public’s were affected the same. UC’s could still use on of the three prong approaches for Title IX compliance. Most used the progress model to gradually get in compliance (or still are showing progress each year and really aren’t truly in compliance on roster or spending amount) . CSU’s had to up the roster spots or cut sports in 6 years.This is an awful take that lets weak/poor admin off the hook for not having the balls to keep football. Sac State, and all the other CA publics that still have football, faced the same issues from the CalNow fallout. It all boils down to having admin with the balls to do what it takes to keep football. Any CA public that had/has a field with 5k+ capacity was/is capable of sponsoring a football program. CalNow was just used as an out by weak/pathetic admin to cut football, I'll never believe otherwise on this topic.
I'm not buying the scholarship limit comment either. With the House Agreement, there are no longer scholarship limits but roster limits. Programs that "opt-in" can maintain a roster size of 105 players; how many of those are put on scholarship are limited by 2 factors:
- How many their respective conference will allow. My speculation is that this was part of our decision to leave the BSC as it doesn't sound like the BSC is budging from its FCS scholarship limit of 63. You can't maximize the advantage of opting in if you are still limited by the conference you are in.
- How many scholarships leadership is willing to fund. There are Title IX implications here, but as with CalNow, this circles back to the wherewithal of the leadership and the effort they are willing to take to be on the leading edge of the changes related to the House Agreement. Note that all NCAA sponsored sports roster limits were also adjusted, so the Title IX balance will still need to be maintained in conjunction with football scholarships.
Interesting tidbit for the "opt outs" moving forward:
They should submit that unofficially / humorously to NCAA Charlie baker update as a way to let them know. If Charlie loves CFB then he should whisker some loop holes that he be aware of that could get us FBs. This is not over. We expect fairnessYes. Last we checked the Las Vegas Bowl and Humanitarian Bowl (now Famous Idaho Potato) were both FBS bowl games originally sponsored by the Big West.
"But the Big West was only 1A at the time. It wasn't FBS." FBS wasn't a thing then, but fine. In the early 90s it briefly had eight full members with football and three women's team sports. Meaning, it met the future qualifications of FBS standards.
So Sac State should be allowed to join FBS because technically speaking, the Big West meets the requirement of previously being an FBS conference.
They should submit that unofficially / humorously to NCAA Charlie baker update as a way to let them know. If Charlie loves CFB then he should whisker some loop holes that he be aware of that could get us FBs. This is not over. We expect fairness
Now that the clock is official, we'll see what Dr. Wood can conjure up. Expiring/renewal of TV contracts with the A4 conferences will drive realignment, as they have been for over the past decade. Here are the current TV durations for the FBS conferences:
Five years is the window to get into FBS.
We'll see, we're about to be in the most unique situation in all of college football.So glad we thumbed the Big Sky. FCS Indy will be a lonely road.
Rank | School | FBS Wins | Power 5 Wins | Market Size | Attendance | Best Fit |
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1 | North Dakota State | 9 | 2 | Small (state-dominant) | ~18,000 | MWC, MAC |
2 | Sacramento State | 4 | 3 | Top 20 (Sacramento DMA) | ~10,000+ | MWC, AAC |
3 | South Dakota State | 1 | 1 | Modest | ~15,000 | MWC |
4 | Montana | 1 | 1 | Statewide loyalty | ~23,000+ | MWC |
5 | UC Davis | 3 | 0 | NorCal/Bay Area | ~9,000 | MWC, AAC |
6 | Eastern Kentucky | 1 | 0 | SE U.S. | ~10,000 | C-USA, Sun Belt |
7 | Chattanooga | 0 | 0 | Near ATL/Nash | ~9,000 | Sun Belt |
8 | Tarleton State | 0 | 0 | Texas (DFW edge) | ~9,000 | C-USA |
9 | Florida A&M | ~0 | 0 | Florida | ~16,000 | C-USA, Sun Belt |
10 | Eastern Washington | 3 | 1 | Spokane area | ~8,000 | MWC |
I asked it to consider several key factor, including program success over the last 15 years.Chat GPT Ranks the top 10 FCS Move Up Candidates:
Rank School FBS Wins Power 5 Wins Market Size Attendance Best Fit 1 North Dakota State 9 2 Small (state-dominant) ~18,000 MWC, MAC 2 Sacramento State 4 3 Top 20 (Sacramento DMA) ~10,000+ MWC, AAC 3 South Dakota State 1 1 Modest ~15,000 MWC 4 Montana 1 1 Statewide loyalty ~23,000+ MWC 5 UC Davis 3 0 NorCal/Bay Area ~9,000 MWC, AAC 6 Eastern Kentucky 1 0 SE U.S. ~10,000 C-USA, Sun Belt 7 Chattanooga 0 0 Near ATL/Nash ~9,000 Sun Belt 8 Tarleton State 0 0 Texas (DFW edge) ~9,000 C-USA 9 Florida A&M ~0 0 Florida ~16,000 C-USA, Sun Belt 10 Eastern Washington 3 1 Spokane area ~8,000 MWC