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The Weber State Dream Team...5 Starters and 1 Sub

JimmyDfor31

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I realize I'm new here and this may have already been covered, but if you had the unenviable task of creating a six man "dream team" of current and former Weber State players (five starters and one sub), who would make your roster? Here's mine, below, filling each of the five traditional positions as well as I can. Keep in mind that many qualified and elite players will be left off this list. It's tragic.

The Roster:

PG--Jermaine "Supa Man" Boyette. I realize you purists might not consider him a "true" point guard because of his insatiable scoring appetite and shoot first mentality, but on this team, I was forced to move him to the point. His slash and dish skills would open up all kinds of looks for trey-busting teammates. So that's why he's playing the point.

SG--Ruben Nembhard. I was pretty young when I used to watch Ruben play, but he's unforgettable. True, I may have built him up in my head over the years, but this is a guy I saw play in a Jazz preseason game at the Dee back in 1995. A Weber State alum, in a Jazz uniform, playing at the Dee. It was gorgeous. I think he bounced around the NBA for a while after that. The guy could score. It's what he lived for. He was the driving force behind that 1995 team of destiny.

SF--Harold "The Show" Arceneaux. This guy is the absolute best scorer I've ever seen play in a live game. Period. That includes the NBA games I've been to (take that, Karl Malone). Despite his frumpy body, Harold was a threat from anywhere on the court, literally. The guy could have been drafted to the NBA if he'd left school as a junior (probably mid-to-late second round, but hey, that's still something), but he came back to thrill the fans at Weber for another year. If anyone questions this pick, check out the box score from the legendary UNC/WSu game in 1999. Teddy Dupay, who played on the Florida team that knocked Weber out in 1999 said that Harold was the best player he'd ever played against except Jason Williams, the tattooed thug point guard who played in the NBA for over 10 seasons. Dupay would have gone pro himself had he not gone to prison. Google that for an interesting story.

PF--Jimmy DeGraffenried. Jimmy was (is?) a freaking legend, and the man I patterned my own game after. Need some proof of his legendary status? In a pre-game shootaround, he complained that something was wrong with the hoop, since he was missing too many shots. They meausured the basket and sure enough, it wasn't set at 10 feet. That's the stuff that legends are made of. Need another mythic Jimmy story? The rumor goes he was playing pick-up ball in a gym on his mission somewhere (in the southern US, I think.) He was destroying the competition, including a few guys who happened to have played for Wake Forest. These guys call up some Wake execs, and they offer Jimmy a scholarship on the spot to play for them. True or not, it's a good story. Jimmy could make it rain from beyond the arc. That's also where I got my screen name on here....Jimmmmy Deeeeeee...for threeeeeee!

C--Lance Allred. He's a rebounding monster with a soft touch. He also played some NBA ball and was featured in the finest sports magazine on the planet, Sports Illustrated. I honestly never thought he was beyond good on the offensive end, but with his rebounding skills, we can let that slide.

Sub--Ryan Cuff. I'm going back to the mid-90's with this pick. Some of you youngsters may not even know who he is, because he only played one season at Weber. But this guy was Mr. Clutch. I watched him hit a buzzer beater against Utah State at the Delta Center to force overtime, a game Weber won. Cuff still holds several Utah high school records, most for scoring. He would score over 40 points routinely in high school, and Shawn Bradley fears him (read Bradley's terrible book, "Standing Tall" to learn more). Cuff was perhaps the most fundamental basketball player I've ever seen. He played for BYU and Arizona, if I'm not mistaken. With the game on the line, I'd want Cuff shooting the ball more than any of the other guys on this team.
 
Good List. Although I'd make an argument for eddie gill at PG: I believe he's a big reason why The Show looked as good as he did. Then you would have to bump Boyette to SG and take Ruben off the bench.
 
pattenjr said:
Good List. Although I'd make an argument for eddie gill at PG: I believe he's a big reason why The Show looked as good as he did. Then you would have to bump Boyette to SG and take Ruben off the bench.


If the list is based on traditional positions then I don't think you could have Jermaine at the point. You also couldn't have The Show playing the 3 and Jimmy playing the 4.

Lance for sure would be a good Center (#5 rebounder in school history and only played 2 seasons).

Also, you gotta upload some old school fools...the ones that put WSU on the map.
 
catcat said:
pattenjr said:
Also, you gotta upload some old school fools...the ones that put WSU on the map.

:lol: :lol: He he he he he he. "Old school fools." I love it. If you said it like "Ode skoo fooz" I'd give you some mad props and street cred.

Bes' not be wastin' my playa' hatin' flava', beeotch.
 
As for my dream team now that I've dis'd everyone elses team - sorry, here is what I think:

I don't know about traditional positions and some of them I don't even know since they were before my day. I will just name 7 great ones I would have on the all-time roster.

Not in any order:

1. Bruce Collins (1980), School record holder for total points: 2,019. 3rd in WSU history for career rebounds 879, 4th all time for Single Game Points - 39, 2nd all-time for Single Game Rebounds - 24, 1 of only 4 WSU players to ever be 3 Time Big Sky Conference 1st Team. 2 Big Sky titles. 2nd rd draft pick in NBA.

2. Willie Sojourner (1971), #4 all-time WSU for career points (played 3 yrs, Collins played 4), Rebounds Career - 1143 (#2 Big Sky history), Career Rebounding Average 14.1 which is #1 in Big Sky history, Single Season Rebounds 411 #1 in WSU history (#2 Big Sky history), Single Season Rebounding Average 15.8 (he is #1, #4 and #5 in WSU history), 4th highest Single Game Points in WSU history 39 (tied with Collins). 4 Big Sky titles. 2nd rd draft pick in NBA.

3. Eddie Gill (2000)would be the point guard. Gill is #2 in WSU history for Single Game Assists with 14. Gill is also the king of steals. Gill has the school record for Single Game Steals with 9. He has the record for Career Steals Average of 2.92 per game. Gill has the school record for Career Free Throw Percentage with 87%. He has the school record for Single Season 3-pointers with 83 (Hamilton is #2 with 76). 1 Big Sky title. Currently in the NBA.

4. Harold Arceneaux (2000), #4 WSU all-time for Single Season Points, #1 WSU all-time Career Average Points per Game - 22.6, #3 WSU all-time for Single Season Scoring Average with 23. #3 WSU all-time Single Season Blocks with 50. #2 WSU all-time Single Game Points with 40. #2 WSU all-time for dunks with 48 (Patten is #1 with 54). 1 of just 16 WSU players to be a 2 Time Big Sky Conference 1st Team. The Big Sky MVP Award started in 1979, The Show is one of only 5 WSU players to win it, and he did it twice, 1999 and 2000. 1 Big Sky title.

5. Jimmy DeGraffenried (1996), WSU all-time stats:
#2 Career Points with 1,624. #5 Single Season Points with 637. #2 Career Free Throw Percentage with 85%. #2 Career 3-pointers with 196 (Hamilton #1 with 240). 1 of 16 WSU players to be a 2 Time Big Sky Conference 1st Team. 1 of just 5 players to be Big Sky MVP which started in 1979. 2 Big Sky Titles.

6. Jimmy Watts (1976), , WSU all-time stats:
#5 career points with 1,553. #2 career rebounds with 949. 1 of just 4 WSU 3 Time Big Sky Conference 1st Team. 2 Big Sky titles.

7. Ruben Nembhard (1995), , WSU all-time stats:
#3 Career Steals Average with 2.02 p game, 1 of just 16 WSU players to be a 2 Time Big Sky Conference 1st Team. 1st ever WSU Big Sky MVP Award winner. Played in the NBA.


It was very difficult to keep the following players out of my all-time starting rotation!

Lance Allred, Jermaine Boyette, Stan Rose, Bob Davis, Rico Washington, Gene Visscher, Al DeWitt, Dan Sparks, Shaun Campbell, Kirk Smith, Robbie Johnson, Alex Fisher, Stan Mayhew, Mark Mattos, Larry Bergh, Jerry Trice, Justus Thigpen, Tom Heywood, and Richard Smith.
 
I guess I was a little short-sighted with my "dream team." One of these days, I'll hammer out a full 12-man roster of all-time greats.

I completely forgot about some of the guys you mentioned like Alex Fisher and Kirk Smith. Fisher was a sure thing from beyond the arc, and since he was chubby, he made me feel slightly better about my own juvenile obesity. Kirk Smith made Sports Illustrated's 1995 NCAA Tournament All Hair Team for his dreadlocks. He's on a short list of quality WSU big men. Kirk was from Belize City, Belize, and being a stupid kid, I always wondered if he knew English. Now I know that English is the official language in Belize. So I can sleep comfortably at night now, knowing that Kirk Smith probably did speak English. It never occurred to me that he would have had to know English to go to school here. I was kind of dumb back in the day.
 
JimmyDfor3 said:
I guess I was a little short-sighted with my "dream team." One of these days, I'll hammer out a full 12-man roster of all-time greats.

I completely forgot about some of the guys you mentioned like Alex Fisher and Kirk Smith. Fisher was a sure thing from beyond the arc, and since he was chubby, he made me feel slightly better about my own juvenile obesity. Kirk Smith made Sports Illustrated's 1995 NCAA Tournament All Hair Team for his dreadlocks. He's on a short list of quality WSU big men. Kirk was from Belize City, Belize, and being a stupid kid, I always wondered if he knew English. Now I know that English is the official language in Belize. So I can sleep comfortably at night now, knowing that Kirk Smith probably did speak English. It never occurred to me that he would have had to know English to go to school here. I was kind of dumb back in the day.


Kirk Smith really was an Un-belize-able big man!!!!
 

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